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Re: Religious schools

Postby Lycandom » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:09 pm

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You are running on the assumption that humans actually have any control over what they want.


True Unhealthy Truthseeker, but here's the thing. There are certain things that we can control and others that we can't.

Wants can be controlled to an extent. Now a want can be controlled not because you can will yourself not to want something, but because once you realize you want it, you can evaluate the possibilities and the pros and cons. People are a logical and thinking species. We understand that sometimes wants aren't what is best for us. (I'm excluding psychological problems, recreational drug use, etc.) A want can be negative and we can choose not to partake in the want. It is human nature to be curious and sometimes this can lead to problems. Essentially, a want cannot be controlled, but your decision can be controlled by you. So, yes we have control over our wants. Example:

We want a car. We have 500 dollars. We go and see a fantastic Ferrari, not 500 dollars. We see a used Gremlin, 500 dollars. We can see that we want the Ferrari, but we know that we cannot afford it and thus our decision is to buy the Gremlin for cash because it is cheaper and we are not economically able to achieve our want. We still want the Ferrari, but we know we cannot have it.

Another example:

We have some money. We want to buy a pool, but a relative has just fallen ill and needs money for surgery (mother, father, sibling, etc.). So, you can buy the pool (a want) or pay for the surgery (a need). We see here that we choose to pay for the surgery. Thus controlling our want for the time being. We understand that it is a necessity to save the life of our loved one. So we make the decision. Hence controlling our want.

Needs cannot be controlled necessarily. There are basic needs that are essential to the growth of a person both psychologically and physically that if neglected can have a negative effect. While a want is not a necessity and will have less of a long term negative effect on a person if they do not achieve it.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:09 pm

Tunizcha wrote:The ninth, "You shall not steal". Now this defies the "Poor are more moral than the rich" preachings of Jesus. How? Would a rich man wish to steal from a poor man? Of course not, what would a poor man have to offer? Now, a poor man stealing from a rich man, doesn't that help him quite a bit?


While I could have gone onto many of these, this one is the stand out.

Why do you think it is good to steal from other people? Or is it only good if it is a benefit to the person stealing?

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Postby Callisdrun » Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:27 pm

I would not send my child to one. Here is why.

In my town, there were three high schools. Four if you count the continuation school. There were the two large public ones, and the smaller, private, Catholic one.

I went to one of the big public ones. My best friend went to the Catholic school. I liked high school a lot, actually. There were drugs, drinking, etc. at my high school, but if you weren't interested in participating, you could very well avoid it. My group of friends was very sober. I drank a little bit (but only in Boy Scouts), and one dude smoked weed. But that was it. I'm sure I could have gotten drugs if I wanted them, but to tell the truth, I was sort of oblivious to that whole thing, as I think most of my classmates were.

At my friend's school, the student population was much smaller. And the drinking/drug scene was the dominant student culture. It was impossible to escape it, really. There weren't really different groups. You were either in, or out. If you didn't buy into the main student group at the school, you were an outcast, and there weren't really enough outcasts to form an alternative group.

There was no set "popular" group at my high school. There was no dominant student culture. Sure, there were people who were very popular, ironically, the most well known of which were the theater kids. But if you didn't hang with them, you weren't an outcast, you just had your own group of friends or whatever. Seemed to be a place for everyone, really, as the student population was large enough so that nearly everyone could find someone else like them to hang with. Nobody ate in the cafeteria except for a really dorky group, but then again, nobody bothered that dorky group because it they were the only ones in the cafeteria. Everyone else had their own areas of campus to eat lunch and hang out in, without the exclusiveness of having "their table" or whatever. That cafeteria scene that happens in teen movies? Well, I don't think that's ever occurred at my high school.

My school was large. I hated someone in many of my classes, but who that person was would change with each class due to the large number of students. My friend was stuck with the people who he didn't get along with all day, due to his school's small size. Everyone knew who everyone was, and outcasts were targets, and targets were limited.

Additionally, his school had far fewer options as to what classes one could take than mine did. There just weren't enough people to have a large buffet of choices as to scheduling.

I will admit, that my school (like many schools, I would guess) is fairly unique and so my reasoning, being based on my experience and my friend's, is rather limited. However, that's the only experience I have to go on. So no, I would not send my children to a religious school. There's a bit of tradition, as well, I suppose. Most people in my family, including myself, were educated at public schools. My children, if I have them, will also go to public schools. Besides, my taxes pay for them, and fuck if I'm going to pay for something and then not use it.
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Postby Kormanthor » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:08 pm

Lizardiar wrote:I would never force my child to go to any Catholic school. If he wanted to go to Catholic school, fine. Besides that, he's going to public schools.



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