Anti BNP Thread

[Hydesland]

The BNP are not Nazis.

Some high up members come pretty damn close.

[NERV arms conglomerate]

true, but i lack good jokes, the bnp is a political part who are not racist in any way, it says so on their website
the bnp are not really evil its just bnp's britain

[Hydesland]

it says so on their website

Oh really? Then it must be true!

[No Names Left Damn It]

Some high up members come pretty damn close.

John Tyndall, was anti-Semitic, but the new lot are just anti-Islam and immigration.

[Belschaft]

true, but i lack good jokes, the bnp is a political part who are not racist in any way, it says so on their website
the bnp are not really evil its just bnp's britain

No, they are evil. They've got quite a good pr machine that tries to make them look moderate, but they really aren't. If you listen or read some of Nick Griffin's speeches, and look at what other members say it is frighteningly like a Nazi manifesto.

Watch this -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8lprxiOFc

[Treznor]

Why are you feeding the trolls? You know it just encourages him.

He angers me deeply. It's less intentional feeding and more rage at someone who if he got his way would send me to a gas chamber.

That's why he does it. You've just confirmed that he's succeeded.

The best way to deal with trolls like him is to not respond, even if he succeeds. Don't give him the satisfaction.

[Belschaft]

Some high up members come pretty damn close.

John Tyndall, was anti-Semitic, but the new lot are just anti-Islam and immigration.

And you think if Hitler was alive today he wouldn't have a problem with Islam? He campaigned for racial; purity inside Germany's borders just like the BNP.

[Brum Brum]

The BNP disgust me , but i do think they should have free speech. giv'em that and they'll show there fascist selve very quickly in one slip. Oh wait they did by proposing ot sink boats full of immigrants.

[Gaia Tree]

Some high up members come pretty damn close.

John Tyndall, was anti-Semitic, but the new lot are just anti-Islam and immigration.

And you think if Hitler was alive today he wouldn't have a problem with Islam? He campaigned for racial; purity inside Germany's borders just like the BNP.

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to use than Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness." - Adolf Hitler

[No Names Left Damn It]

And you think if Hitler was alive today he wouldn't have a problem with Islam?

Hitler actually allied himself with Muslim leaders in the Middle East.

He campaigned for racial; purity inside Germany's borders just like the BNP.

Right, but the BNP aren't proposing to kill anyone based on race.

[Grays Harbor]

I don't "want out" with those "racist bigots". They should be allowed to have a party, and people should choose whether to vote for them or not. Whilst I disagree with quite a few of their policies, that is no reason to ban them, eject them from the country or whatever.

So you do support them then?

I do not see how not being in favor of censorship translates into "support them".

do you support censorship, then?

[Belschaft]

And you think if Hitler was alive today he wouldn't have a problem with Islam?

Hitler actually allied himself with Muslim leaders in the Middle East.

He campaigned for racial; purity inside Germany's borders just like the BNP.

Right, but the BNP aren't proposing to kill anyone based on race.

Hitler allied himself with them for short term political gains against Britain and the USSR. The idea of tolerating their independence hardly fits with his desire for an Aryan superstate.

Furthermore Hitler never proposed the holocaust while seeking election. He referenced the Jewish problem in the same way Nick Griffin references the Muslim problem, and only showed his true colours once elected and made dictator for life. Everything about Nick Griffin tells us that his polices would be just as extreme as Hitler's.

[No Names Left Damn It]

He referenced the Jewish problem in the same way Nick Griffin references the Muslim problem, and only showed his true colours once elected and made dictator for life. Everything about Nick Griffin tells us that his polices would be just as extreme as Hitler's.

Wrong. As early as the 1910s Hitler was blabbing on about the master race, how the Jews were all murderous bastards and othersuch bullshit.

[Belschaft]

He referenced the Jewish problem in the same way Nick Griffin references the Muslim problem, and only showed his true colours once elected and made dictator for life. Everything about Nick Griffin tells us that his polices would be just as extreme as Hitler's.

Wrong. As early as the 1910s Hitler was blabbing on about the master race, how the Jews were all murderous bastards and othersuch bullshit.

And Nick Griffin is blabbing on about the Muslims and the immigrants and them stealing our jobs and corrupting our youth and how the British are the Master race. He hasn't used the exact words yet but it's only a matter of time.

[No Names Left Damn It]

And Nick Griffin is blabbing on about the Muslims and the immigrants and them stealing our jobs and corrupting our youth and how the British are the Master race. He hasn't used the exact words yet but it's only a matter of time.

So what you're saying is he hasn't actually said this, and from that I can conclude you are talking out of your arse.

[Aloha Mars 2]

And Nick Griffin is blabbing on about the Muslims and the immigrants and them stealing our jobs and corrupting our youth and how the British are the Master race. He hasn't used the exact words yet but it's only a matter of time.

So what you're saying is he hasn't actually said this, and from that I can conclude you are talking out of your arse.

So you support the BNP?

[Aloha Mars 2]

I don't "want out" with those "racist bigots". They should be allowed to have a party, and people should choose whether to vote for them or not. Whilst I disagree with quite a few of their policies, that is no reason to ban them, eject them from the country or whatever.

So you do support them then?

I do not see how not being in favor of censorship translates into "support them".

do you support censorship, then?

When it comes to the BNP, yes.

[Khossistam]

I only buy cannabis from white people. Preferably the English.

Just doing my part.

[Grays Harbor]

do you support censorship, then?

When it comes to the BNP, yes.

that is pretty selective, and seems not a bit self-indulgent. you support censorship for what you dislike, but not for anything else. convenient.

[Belschaft]

And Nick Griffin is blabbing on about the Muslims and the immigrants and them stealing our jobs and corrupting our youth and how the British are the Master race. He hasn't used the exact words yet but it's only a matter of time.

So what you're saying is he hasn't actually said this, and from that I can conclude you are talking out of your arse.

My point is that Griffin, like Hitler, has consistently argued in his speeches and literature that his race is superior to all others and called for the illegal extradition of citizens of a different race to him. Just like Hitler. While he hasn't used the term 'master race' I was attempting to point out that he has said essentially exactly the same thing in slightly more elegant wording. While you are free to claim that as he hasn't openly declared an Ubermensch policy, and hasn't yet called for the killing of Muslims/Jews/Poles - he hasn't - there is no doubt in my mind that that is what he truly wants, reading between the lines. He lies, consistently and openly. We have to use our brains to work out what he really means, and it is not hard to find out what he means.

[The Tofu Islands]

So you support the BNP?

No, ey doesn't. I'd be willing to bet £1 that the majority of posters here wouldn't.
However, just because we don't like them doesn't mean that they should be censored.
The right to free speech is the right to say things other people don't like. (Barring speech intended to directly cause harm, like inciting violence.)

[Aloha Mars 2]

do you support censorship, then?

When it comes to the BNP, yes.

that is pretty selective, and seems not a bit self-indulgent. you support censorship for what you dislike, but not for anything else. convenient.

So you like the BNP? Sorry but promoting hate speech is wrong.

[Treznor]

When it comes to the BNP, yes.

that is pretty selective, and seems not a bit self-indulgent. you support censorship for what you dislike, but not for anything else. convenient.

So you like the BNP? Sorry but promoting hate speech is wrong.

What you fail to understand is that supporting freedom of speech is not the same as supporting what is said. Freedom of speech means freedom for everyone, not just the speech you like. If you can justify censoring him, then someone else can find justification to censor you. The only way to protect your freedom of speech is to protect everyone's.

[Neo Art]

What you fail to understand is that supporting freedom of speech is not the same as supporting what is said. Freedom of speech means freedom for everyone, not just the speech you like. If you can justify censoring him, then someone else can find justification to censor you. The only way to protect your freedom of speech is to protect everyone's.

You nazi.

[Treznor]

What you fail to understand is that supporting freedom of speech is not the same as supporting what is said. Freedom of speech means freedom for everyone, not just the speech you like. If you can justify censoring him, then someone else can find justification to censor you. The only way to protect your freedom of speech is to protect everyone's.

You nazi.

Shameless, aren't I?