Anti BNP Thread

[Milks Empire]

right to free speech vs the bnp nazi propaganda,

im all for freedom but not a BNP freedom

You love freedom so much that you're going to strip it away from someone who (as far as I know) has broken no laws?
Burying their drivel will only let it grow unchecked by these things called facts.

Socialism is the ideology of envy, as in "I don't want to work (hard), but I do want what my neighbour has, so I want the government to take it from him and give it to me".

That's a hell of a strawman you've built up there. Socialism is the ideology of sharing, as in "there's this burden that all of us must bear, but it's hard to do individually. If we all share it together, then it becomes easier for all of us."

To expand on this, when was the last time you saw one construction worker building a skyscraper?

[Krypton-Zod]

Socialism is the ideology of envy, as in "I don't want to work (hard), but I do want what my neighbour has, so I want the government to take it from him and give it to me".

That's a hell of a strawman you've built up there. Socialism is the ideology of sharing, as in "there's this burden that all of us must bear, but it's hard to do individually. If we all share it together, then it becomes easier for all of us."

Funny how socialists always expect others to bear the burden, whilst they distribute the spoils amongst their lazy voters.

[Krypton-Zod]

right to free speech vs the bnp nazi propaganda,

im all for freedom but not a BNP freedom

You love freedom so much that you're going to strip it away from someone who (as far as I know) has broken no laws?
Burying their drivel will only let it grow unchecked by these things called facts.

Socialism is the ideology of envy, as in "I don't want to work (hard), but I do want what my neighbour has, so I want the government to take it from him and give it to me".

That's a hell of a strawman you've built up there. Socialism is the ideology of sharing, as in "there's this burden that all of us must bear, but it's hard to do individually. If we all share it together, then it becomes easier for all of us."

To expand on this, when was the last time you saw one construction worker building a skyscraper?

People who take a job in construction working, do so voluntarily. Government stealing my hard earned money through that despicable thing they call 'tax' is not voluntary, it is under threat of sanctions that they take your money. In other words: the IRS is a criminal enterprise taking your money without your consent.

I'll say it honestly: I don't want to share with lazy democrat voters and certainly not with illegals. You want to voluntarily pay more to the government? Fine, go ahead.

[Milks Empire]

People who take a job in construction working, do so voluntarily. Government stealing my hard earned money through that despicable thing they call 'tax' is not voluntary, it is under threat of sanctions that they take your money. In other words: the IRS is a criminal enterprise taking your money without your consent.

A. Way to completely miss the point.
B. Taxation is voluntary. You can choose to go to another country if you don't want to pay American taxes.

[Treznor]

Socialism is the ideology of envy, as in "I don't want to work (hard), but I do want what my neighbour has, so I want the government to take it from him and give it to me".

That's a hell of a strawman you've built up there. Socialism is the ideology of sharing, as in "there's this burden that all of us must bear, but it's hard to do individually. If we all share it together, then it becomes easier for all of us."

Funny how socialists always expect others to bear the burden, whilst they distribute the spoils amongst their lazy voters.

Funny how capitalists always expect others to bear the burden, while they distribute the spoils amongst their lazy voters. After all, they're the ones who expect everyone else to do the work while they reap the profits.

Atlas Shrugged: One Hour Later

[Womble land]

Just to note this is a party who's leader has just called for the royal navy to sink ships with immigrants on them... but it's ok as we'll do near to shore and we'll thorw lifeboats to any survivors,so they can row back Libya...

Quote for anyone interrested

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/a ... 146456.stm

[Mad hatters in jeans]

The BNP
Are not particularly good for UK reputation at the moment, with some MEP's voted in a recent election.
I wonder why England doesn't change it's voting system to proportional representatio, then just leave a threshold limit of say %5 of the vote to count as a party, this would stop backward and frankly daft parties like the BNP gaining any votes. I mean did any of you see some of the parties turning up to vote? the Roman party being one, Apparently one concerned bus driver in suffolk wanted to make a difference, apparently he got 5,000 votes. just a waste of votes really. again another reason why so many people use their vote to protest against the government in power.

The voting turnout was pretty low, and many folks see the voters as a protest vote against NewLabour (read as right wing labour).
I figure what will happen is, Labour will lose their next election, Conservative will win because no one likes any of the other parties, and the Liberal Democrats are too thinly spread across the UK to really take a claim to power. (although with proportional representation they would gain far more seats in the house of commons).
Then the Conservatives will rule for a bit not doing much except fucking things up. (bureaucracy is there for a reason guys)
The SNP in Scotland will almost certainly call a referendum on devolving completely, (arguments about how well Scotland can fare from splitting from the UK are mixed from total failure to things turning out better than before), with a Conservative government in power in Westminster no Scots will want to be ruled by them, (commonly seen as rich and ignorant of the poor, i leave those comments to your own imaginations).

Then after that....who knows?

[North Suran]

Just watch a rerun of election night, the BBC (!!) showed a graph of where BNP votes came from. In constituencies where the BNP stood for election, it showed a well near 100% correlation between the decrease of the Labour vote and the increase in BNP votes.

Because people stopped voting for Labour due to dissastisfaction with the Government, while others voted for the BNP as a protest vote.
At any rate, you can hardly claim that the Labour Party and the BNP and their supporters are ideologically compatible.
The nearest Party to the BNP on the political scale are the Conservative Party, and that's simply because they're right-wing.
A majority of the mainstream political Parties and their supporters are most definitely anti-BNP.

[No Names Left Damn It]

The nearest Party to the BNP on the political scale are the Conservative Party, and that's simply because they're right-wing.

No they're fucking not. It would be the National Front to one side, what with them pretty much being a Nazi party, and UKIP to the other.

[San Ivanna]

the bnp can say what they like ... thats kind of the idea of a democracy

[Hydesland]

At least its a little less vitriolic this time.

[Chumblywumbly]

<racistrantsnip>

Must you copy and paste?

Can't you at least come up with some new thoughts to 'inform' your pathetic tirades, so devoid of reality?

[Chumblywumbly]

It got deleted so here is my rant again fool

And charming to boot!

Aren't you posting around a ban, young fellar-me-lad?

[Jakra]

Anyone remember which mod banned BNP originally, I think they would like to do the honors over this one.

BTW BNP: If this site is full of ignorant leties, why do you keep coming back. Are you really a socialist wearing fascist clothes?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

BNP... scary platform. They remind me so much of the Nazi. But perhaps they're not as bad. I just hope, for the sake of England, that party never reaches power.

[Ferretia Prime]

I believe in the BNP's motives but not their Means, if that makes sence.

[Chumblywumbly]

I believe in the BNP's motives but not their Means, if that makes sence.

What motives would they be?

[Hydesland]

It brings down the wages of indigenous workers...

Then lay the blame at capitalism's feet, not those of immigrants.

If a firm moves to Edinburgh from London because the wages cost is lower - as it is - would you call for the removal of Scots?

Moreover, you've not shown how cheap labour harms the economy.

Immigration probably causes far more harm to the sending country, due to 'brain drain', but I doubt the BNP give a shit about those countries, or any other country. Having the BNP as head of government would be a diplomatic disaster.

[Erastide]

And another incarnation is gone.

[Chumblywumbly]

EDIT: Fun while it lasted.

[Chumblywumbly]

IS IT I AM STILL HERE DUMBASS

An example of ragejoin, rather than ragequit?

[Hydesland]

He is like some forms of cancer, you can never quite get rid of him, he will always come back.

[Erastide]

And now he's not here.

[Hydesland]

hax

[Milks Empire]

And now he's not here.

*gives cookie for job well done*
Iz vary gud cuky to.