Space Mission's to Mar's?!

[Epicnopolis]

This is a spin-off of this...sort of...http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=7721&f=20&view=unread#unread. But really?! MARS?!.......................Anyone care to explain?

[Conserative Morality]

Deliberate?

[Epicnopolis]

Deliberate?

....Doesn't that mean explain?

[Heinleinites]

Deliberate?

....Doesn't that mean explain?

No, it means 'to think carefully or attentively; to reflect.' If you're confused as to the meaning of words, they do make books specifically for resolving just that sort of quandary.

[Parthenon]

Deliberate?

....Doesn't that mean explain?

No.

[Epicnopolis]

Oh, well I'll edit it. But still can anyone explain it too me?

[Cameroi]

mars yes. the most interesting place we can yet get to that no earth human, as far as it is possible to know with any degree of certainty, has ever been to yet.

nothing, not even any war, ever did as much to stimulate the evolution of technology then the race to the moon. it is highly unlikely we would have these computers and this internet without its having taken place.

it is our world's great misfortune there is no longer a russia capable of competing in a race to get there.
perhaps china and/or india will oblige.

[Conserative Morality]

....Doesn't that mean explain?

Sorry, read that wrong.

2. To consult with another or others in a process of reaching a decision.

Yeah. I read it as 'Deliberate', as in on purpose.

[Epicnopolis]

mars yes. the most interesting place we can yet get to that no earth human, as far as it is possible to know with any degree of certainty, has ever been to yet.

nothing, not even any war, ever did as much to stimulate the evolution of technology then the race to the moon. it is highly unlikely we would have these computers and this internet without its having taken place.

it is our world's great misfortune there is no longer a russia capable of competing in a race to get there.
perhaps china and/or india will oblige.

When do you think we could get their?

[Curilia]

Doing anything on any other planet would purely be an academic/research excersise.
Space exploration and colonization will have no practical/economical value for quite some time...

It doesn't mean it shouldn't be done...
I just think we should wait before expecting Scotty to prep the Dilithium crystals...

[Cameroi]

mars yes. the most interesting place we can yet get to that no earth human, as far as it is possible to know with any degree of certainty, has ever been to yet.

nothing, not even any war, ever did as much to stimulate the evolution of technology then the race to the moon. it is highly unlikely we would have these computers and this internet without its having taken place.

it is our world's great misfortune there is no longer a russia capable of competing in a race to get there.
perhaps china and/or india will oblige.

When do you think we could get their?

like kennidy said when he threw down the gauntlet for the race to the moon, "within the next ten years".

[The Tofu Islands]

You really managed to murder grammar in the title... apostrophes don't mark plurals, and even if they did, Mars isn't a plural.

As for space missions to Mars*, I'm not sure what the point is at the moment. Beyond "we got there first", I don't see what there is to gain beyond what we already know or could find out with unmanned missions.

*I'm assuming you're referring to manned missions -- we've already sent unmanned missions there.

[Cameroi]

You really managed to murder grammar in the title... apostrophes don't mark plurals, and even if they did, Mars isn't a plural.

As for space missions to Mars*, I'm not sure what the point is at the moment. Beyond "we got there first", I don't see what there is to gain beyond what we already know or could find out with unmanned missions.

*I'm assuming you're referring to manned missions -- we've already sent unmanned missions there.

we got this friggin internet as a very tangible byproduct of going to the moon. obviously we didn't find it ON the moon. that's really just about totally not the point. although it does seem mars is likely to have a lot more diversity and oddity then the moon's monotonous gray dust and lumps of higher density gray rocks beneath its surface.

[UNIverseVERSE]

we got this friggin internet as a very tangible byproduct of going to the moon. obviously we didn't find it ON the moon. that's really just about totally not the point. although it does seem mars is likely to have a lot more diversity and oddity then the moon's monotonous gray dust and lumps of higher density gray rocks beneath its surface.

That's not quite true -- the Internet evolved out of ARPAnet, which was intended to mitigate the effects of one computer site being nuked, by distributing information between many.

---

As for Mars, the problem with manned missions is the incredible expense for a minimal return. Look at the shuttle -- it's the most expensive launch vehicle ever employed, and can only just lift things into Low Earth Orbit.

With people, you have to get them there, get them back, and keep them alive all the distance inbetween. With robotic or remote-controlled probes, you just have to get them there. For far less than the cost of the Moon missions (which gave us little more data than the Soviets collected with robotic missions), we've surveyed nearly every other planet with small probes.

I would comfortably lay £5 that, if a manned mission to Mars were undertaken, it would make no significant discoveries over those of Spirit, Sojourner and Opportunity, and would cost several orders of magnitude more.

[Yootopia]

Deliberate?

Wait a tick... wtf you doing in NSG about a week after you "left". JEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS man

[Non Aligned States]

I would comfortably lay £5 that, if a manned mission to Mars were undertaken, it would make no significant discoveries over those of Spirit, Sojourner and Opportunity, and would cost several orders of magnitude more.

Taken.

One significant discovery would be that of longer lasting life support systems under hostile conditions to make the mission possible.

You never said anything about discoveries on Mars.

[Conserative Morality]

Wait a tick... wtf you doing in NSG about a week after you "left". JEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS man

Haven't I already explained this to you?

[Ryadn]

But still can anyone explain it too me

When do you think we could get their?

I could explain it to you, but it would take too long, and it's already two in the morning. I suggest you ask some professors in the field for their reasoning, since they're knowledgeable about the subject and could better explain how humans could travel there.

[UNIverseVERSE]

Taken.

One significant discovery would be that of longer lasting life support systems under hostile conditions to make the mission possible.

You never said anything about discoveries on Mars.

Bastard.

I think it was clear from context that I meant scientific discoveries made during the mission, not problems to be solved in order to carry out the mission. Can we accept that?

[Saige Dragon]

What gets me in all these concepts and prototypes we have going for a manned mission to Mars is everything is white. The spacesuits, landers, ships, rovers, all of it white. And we're sending it to a big red desert known for it's gigantic dust storms?

[Ryadn]

What gets me in all these concepts and prototypes we have going for a manned mission to Mars is everything is white. The spacesuits, landers, ships, rovers, all of it white. And we're sending it to a big red desert known for it's gigantic dust storms?

...I assumed the white was to reflect. And what color could we make it so it WOULDN'T be lost in a dust storm?

[Meridiani Planum]

Deliberate?

I think you meant "elaborate".

[Saige Dragon]

What gets me in all these concepts and prototypes we have going for a manned mission to Mars is everything is white. The spacesuits, landers, ships, rovers, all of it white. And we're sending it to a big red desert known for it's gigantic dust storms?

...I assumed the white was to reflect. And what color could we make it so it WOULDN'T be lost in a dust storm?

I was more concerned about the lack of a Bubbles Car Wash on the red planet... white is so hard to keep clean.

[Pure Metal]

This is a spin-off of this...sort of...http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=7721&f=20&view=unread#unread. But really?! MARS?!.......................Anyone care to explain?

the next step in an excellent experiment to explore our galaxy

I was more concerned about the lack of a Bubbles Car Wash on the red planet... white is so hard to keep clean.

it also makes us easier for the Martians to see

[No Names Left Damn It]

Mi'splaced apostrophe's roam the land'scape!