Ye Olde US Midterm Elections Thread (With Extra Vitimins)

[Nobel Hobos]

The Democrats have very little chance of holding the Senate in the NEXT elections. The seats up for election in 2012 are Class I, elected in 2006 — which was a very strong year for Democrats.

Not losing the Senate majority in 2012 is a much bigger ask than winning back the House or winning the Presidency.

[Farnhamia]

Hay, guys I would be contesting next year for election in nigeria. This you chance to test me on my policy toward the west, especially America.

well, what is your policy?

[Nobel Hobos]

Exactly. So we'd have a system incapable of tracking marijuana abuse. Ergo, increased level of DUIs, ergo, I wouldn't feel all that safe on the roads anymore.

Uhhh... weed stays in your system for up to 3 weeks... an hour won't help.

That depends on whether the cops are trying to bust you for illegal drugs. If all they're doing is enforcing traffic law, what matters is not the evidence that you've been smoking but the level of the drug in your blood. That goes down over time (duh, or you'd still be stoned from the first blunt you ever smoked).

[Aubelland]

While driving, you could smell marijuana from inside the car if you've used it inside. And we already have those practices now. (In New Jersey, you HAVE to submit to a breathalyzer and police can hold you until drug dogs are called or you go with them to get tested).

That may be true in New Jersey, but in California we don't have such practices. Therefore, we would need a separate law to be passed, just for that.

Also, "smelling marijuana" is far too vague and unofficial of a detection method. A cop can't pull you over simply for "smelling that a guy had marijuana", I've known a cop that tried to do that with an underage kid who had alcohol in his car. Or rather, I knew the kid. The case got overturned because the cop did not have a reason for pulling him over other then he "suspected" he had beer in his car.

Yeah but that is a lot of work and puts doctors at risk of losing their practice. FFS, why not just set heavy fines for weed used outside the house or a hooka-barish business and leave people be?

Well, I wouldn't really have a problem with that. Personally I don't care if folks smoke weed, it doesn't matter to me. What worries me is when they are on the job and they're high, or in their cars and they're high, and they manage to injure someone while under the influence because there was no way to measure of whether they were "high" or not "officially". After all, I could dismiss the "red eyes" thing with an excuse of just being "tired", right?

I also don't really recall alot of doctors losing their practice over prescribing medical marijuana as it is today, however, if it were passed, then the Federal Government and the DEA would no doubt crack down on marijuana, seeing as how that is still illegal to Federal Law. So I could see way more doctors losing their jobs as a result of Prop. 19 passing then it not passing.

[Greed and Death]

Hay, guys I would be contesting next year for election in nigeria. This you chance to test me on my policy toward the west, especially America.

well, what is your policy?

How much he donates to the American chamber of commerce to influence the election.

[NERVUN]

Which was Reid's fault, how?

Not to mention we have kept Angle out of office for two election cycles now and I'm not about to change that.

It's Reid's fault because he hasn't done shat to help us! The Bloody Wanker!

You mean all those bills he helped get passed the shot money into Nevada wasn't help?

Who knew?

[UnitedStatesOfAmerica-]

Fate of the California Props:

Prop 19: Legalization of the recreational use of marijuana. Would have banned employers, including the military, from firing or disciplining employees who used marijuana. Defeated.
Prop 20: Congressional districts drawn by a non partisan commission: approved
Prop 21: free entry into all state parks if you pay a new $18 vehicle fee each year. approved. (This is a good deal. For $18 a year you get access to all of the state's parks for the entire year instead of paying $50 each day you go.)
Prop 22: Ban the state from taking from schools and cities to pay for the legislature's rubber checks. approved.
Prop 23: Suspend California's Climate Change law until the economy improves. Defeated
Prop 24: Repeal tax breaks for small business owners who employ minorities: Defeated
Prop 25: Require only 51% to pass a state budget: approved
Prop 26: requires 2/3 voter approval for all local taxes and fees: approved
Prop 27: eliminate the non partisan redistricting commission: defeated

According to these votes, you can see how liberal and communistic the people of California are and just what type of government it is that Californians want to force on the rest of America.

No one is trying to force anything on america, but america spending more than it can ever afford to pay.

the majority of that spending is by the state of California and the spending is reckless at that. The teacher salaries are way too high so because the state can pay the salaries themselve, they are demanding the rest of the nation pay the unjustifiably high salaries of incompetents. Further, they continue to have flaunt US laws while demanding and recieving federal tax money from people in Michigan, Main, Nevada, Florida, etc.

Think about it. The other 50 states are, metaphorically speaking, required to pay annual and monthly tribute to the Imperial Empire of California to support the criminal habits of its residents.

Having said that. Where is the tribute that the rest of you Americans owe to California? Almost everything in California is paid for Americans who don't live in California and most of whome will never set foot in California. There is no justice in this system.

[Aubelland]

Exactly. So we'd have a system incapable of tracking marijuana abuse. Ergo, increased level of DUIs, ergo, I wouldn't feel all that safe on the roads anymore.

Uhhh... weed stays in your system for up to 3 weeks... an hour won't help.

So if stays in your system for 3 weeks then how would I tell whether or not you're DUI? You could have just as well hit up a blunt while driving as you could have 2 weeks prior.

[Farnhamia]

well, what is your policy?

How much he donates to the American chamber of commerce to influence the election.

An honest admission of that would increase my respect for him from next to nothing to a little something.

[Sourion]

Fate of the California Props:

Prop 19: Legalization of the recreational use of marijuana. Would have banned employers, including the military, from firing or disciplining employees who used marijuana. Defeated.
Prop 20: Congressional districts drawn by a non partisan commission: approved
Prop 21: free entry into all state parks if you pay a new $18 vehicle fee each year. approved. (This is a good deal. For $18 a year you get access to all of the state's parks for the entire year instead of paying $50 each day you go.)
Prop 22: Ban the state from taking from schools and cities to pay for the legislature's rubber checks. approved.
Prop 23: Suspend California's Climate Change law until the economy improves. Defeated
Prop 24: Repeal tax breaks for small business owners who employ minorities: Defeated
Prop 25: Require only 51% to pass a state budget: approved
Prop 26: requires 2/3 voter approval for all local taxes and fees: approved
Prop 27: eliminate the non partisan redistricting commission: defeated

According to these votes, you can see how liberal and communistic the people of California are and just what type of government it is that Californians want to force on the rest of America.

Are you trying to win the WTF moment award?

I believe they are being sarcastic.

If not, then maybe.

[NERVUN]

No one is trying to force anything on america, but america spending more than it can ever afford to pay.

the majority of that spending is by the state of California and the spending is reckless at that. The teacher salaries are way too high so because the state can pay the salaries themselve, they are demanding the rest of the nation pay the unjustifiably high salaries of incompetents. Further, they continue to have flaunt US laws while demanding and recieving federal tax money from people in Michigan, Main, Nevada, Florida, etc.

Think about it. The other 50 states are, metaphorically speaking, required to pay annual and monthly tribute to the Imperial Empire of California to support the criminal habits of its residents.

Having said that. Where is the tribute that the rest of you Americans owe to California? Almost everything in California is paid for Americans who don't live in California and most of whome will never set foot in California. There is no justice in this system.

Annoying as California is, it sends far more tax dollars to the Federal government than it receives in help.

[The Black Forrest]

While waiting for the blood test, ask to see the license phlebotomist, then demand a doctor observe the procedure and request a copy of his credentials as well. Normally gets you another hour to sober up.

Exactly. So we'd have a system incapable of tracking marijuana abuse. Ergo, increased level of DUIs, ergo, I wouldn't feel all that safe on the roads anymore.

So do you know anything of the pot culture?

Very nice slippery slope BTW. Do stay off the Roads. I am all for it. Far too many people on them right now.....

[Gauntleted Fist]

It's safe to say that I'm pretty disappointed in the election results in my state.

It seems like people really don't care about the economy, no matter how much they whine. I'm just going to point to the election results the next time someone starts bitching here.

[NERVUN]

So the question I have.....


Where did the Repubs hide the shrub?

President Bush has been quiet the whole time.

Honestly, he's been a very remarkably quiet ex-president. Too busy with his library and book thing I guess.

[O5vx]

Hay, guys I would be contesting next year for election in nigeria. This you chance to test me on my policy toward the west, especially America.

well, what is your policy?

All companies that want to invest in Nigeria must have a system of training our people. They will bring all equipment needed to manufacture goods into Nigeria and all their workers must be a Nigerian. The west will no longer be able to come into nigeria without first applying for visa, which will take 6 month. The west will not be allowed to spread their capitalistic views in Nigeria. We will be in charge of ensuring that our rights are not taking for grounted. More stricter rules for the west are coming.

[East Lithuania]

That may be true in New Jersey, but in California we don't have such practices. Therefore, we would need a separate law to be passed, just for that.

Also, "smelling marijuana" is far too vague and unofficial of a detection method. A cop can't pull you over simply for "smelling that a guy had marijuana", I've known a cop that tried to do that with an underage kid who had alcohol in his car. Or rather, I knew the kid. The case got overturned because the cop did not have a reason for pulling him over other then he "suspected" he had beer in his car.

"Smelling marijuana" is enough to at least get you brought in for testing, just like seeing open beer cans is reason enough to brethalize you to see if you're too plastered to drive. And that cop sucks, no offense. LOTS of cops pull kids over in case they can catch a big break with a drug bust or alcohol. If the cop could say he was tailgaiting or speeding or anything he could get away with it usually. The cop in that scenario was OBVIOUSLY just trying to get a bust, which should probably deserve some sort of punishment.

Well, I wouldn't really have a problem with that. Personally I don't care if folks smoke weed, it doesn't matter to me. What worries me is when they are on the job and they're high, or in their cars and they're high, and they manage to injure someone while under the influence because there was no way to measure of whether they were "high" or not "officially". After all, I could dismiss the "red eyes" thing with an excuse of just being "tired", right?

I also don't really recall alot of doctors losing their practice over prescribing medical marijuana as it is today, however, if it were passed, then the Federal Government and the DEA would no doubt crack down on marijuana, seeing as how that is still illegal to Federal Law. So I could see way more doctors losing their jobs as a result of Prop. 19 passing then it not passing.

You can't drive when you're excessively tired either, so you're screwed either way. It's the same sort of thing that people under 21 who are caught with a BAL of 0.01 or higher get auto-DUI'd since it's illegal for them to drink. See what I mean along the lines that really nothing would change if weed were legal, since being drunk at work or driving etc. gets you in the same amount of trouble.

[Germonica]

It's Reid's fault because he hasn't done shat to help us! The Bloody Wanker!

You mean all those bills he helped get passed the shot money into Nevada wasn't help?

Who knew?

It obviously didn't help much.

[Greed and Death]

Well 3 seats left. not official.
Looks like the Dems have Washington, and the GOP gets Colorado and Alaska.
So it will be 52/48 split.

[Yootwopia]

Reid won. Heh.

[East Lithuania]

Uhhh... weed stays in your system for up to 3 weeks... an hour won't help.

So if stays in your system for 3 weeks then how would I tell whether or not you're DUI? You could have just as well hit up a blunt while driving as you could have 2 weeks prior.

Sobriety tests? A man who tries that would horribly fail a sobriety test. I've smoked quite a good amount of weed before and if a cop had given me a sobriety test I'd collapse. All of this leads to testing if thc is in your system.

[UnitedStatesOfAmerica-]

the majority of that spending is by the state of California and the spending is reckless at that. The teacher salaries are way too high so because the state can pay the salaries themselve, they are demanding the rest of the nation pay the unjustifiably high salaries of incompetents. Further, they continue to have flaunt US laws while demanding and recieving federal tax money from people in Michigan, Main, Nevada, Florida, etc.

Think about it. The other 50 states are, metaphorically speaking, required to pay annual and monthly tribute to the Imperial Empire of California to support the criminal habits of its residents.

Having said that. Where is the tribute that the rest of you Americans owe to California? Almost everything in California is paid for Americans who don't live in California and most of whome will never set foot in California. There is no justice in this system.

Annoying as California is, it sends far more tax dollars to the Federal government than it receives in help.

A state that flagrantly refuses to comply with all federal laws should recieve no funding. The job of government is not act as a welfare state. Californians are wanting federal money to pay people who $100,000 a year jobs while people in Georgia, Ohio, and Oklahoma can't even get jobs or social assistance because all the money was given to California.

We would be a lot better off if at least 75% of the California public employee workforce were fired and all of the state's free welfare giveaways were eliminated. Then California would not be a drain and it would not be in danger of economic collapse which will be the result of several of the ballot initiatives. We might as well federalize the entire state and get it over with.

This state, that I've lived in my whole life, is no longer viable economically. If the feds don't step in California will cease to exist as a US state.

[The Black Forrest]

Annoying as California is, it sends far more tax dollars to the Federal government than it receives in help.

A state that flagrantly refuses to comply with all federal laws should recieve no funding. The job of government is not act as a welfare state. Californians are wanting federal money to pay people who $100,000 a year jobs while people in Georgia, Ohio, and Oklahoma can't even get jobs or social assistance because all the money was given to California.

We would be a lot better off if at least 75% of the California public employee workforce were fired and all of the state's free welfare giveaways were eliminated. Then California would not be a drain and it would not be in danger of economic collapse which will be the result of several of the ballot initiatives. We might as well federalize the entire state and get it over with.

This state, that I've lived in my whole life, is no longer viable economically. If the feds don't step in California will cease to exist as a US state.

Sure you have. Where did you live?

[Farnhamia]

Well 3 seats left. not official.
Looks like the Dems have Washington, and the GOP gets Colorado and Alaska.
So it will be 52/48 split.

The Colorado race is pretty much a statistical tie, about 5000 votes difference. I can see the word "recount" in the future.

In Alaska, "Write-Ins" has a 5.3% lead over the Republican, Miller.

[O5vx]

Enough of the Americanalization that is going on. From next year on it will be Africanalization, Nigerianalization. Those are the words that will set the right mood for us.

[NERVUN]

You mean all those bills he helped get passed the shot money into Nevada wasn't help?

Who knew?

It obviously didn't help much.

It was better than nothing. Given that Nevada's economy has been boom/bust since the earliest days... we've ALWAYS had problems during recessions. People don't have money, so they don't come to play. If they don't come to play, we can't hire the poorly educated workforce in Nevada for all those service jobs and since that happens, people won't move in so the construction dries up as well.

This has been an issue for over 100 years and Nevadans have yet to really work their reads around it for some reason. Probably because during a boom time everything is so great, no one wants to think of what's going to happen. So if you want to blame someone, pin it on the idiot in the Governors Mansion in Carson. Gibbons refused to do anything that would remotely smack of changing the tax base and instead did his level best to hurt all state systems that might have provided some kind of help.

Sadly, Sandoval seems to be running on the same track.