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Sibirsky wrote:20% of the total uninsured are illegal immigrants. We should not be raising taxes on anyone to provide health coverage to criminals.

Opola wrote:
Haha funny guy, eh? You are a moron, dude! Please get your facts straight. Bush was not what the Conservatives stand for. Let me reiterate the point so inmature people like you are "informed"

Conservatives stand for:

Less taxes on everyone
Less overall government
Less spending
Conservative foreign policy

Bush stood for:
Less taxes for the wealthy, more on the middle class
More government with his regulation policies
More government spending on military
Aggressive foreign policy

No Names Left Damn It wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:And I doubt the Brits are here reading about our healthcare.

I am.

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:

Muravyets wrote:Nicely said. It must be nice for some people to be able to blame the exploited for the problem that exploits them. I would also point out that the "we shouldn't be paying for illegal immigrants" argument falls flat with me because I happen to agree with the UN that access to medical care is a human right and not a commodity to be traded or a privilege to be granted or withheld by government fiat.

And I am also very interested to see Sibirsky come up with a link to an alternative plan that will get the job done. As I said, I'll go for any plan that will remove the dangling sword of personal bankruptcy due to just one serious illness from over my head. But I've heard claims that such plans exist many times, without ever being shown such a plan. I've seen more evidence for Bigfoot, frankly.

I especially giggle when Congressmen like John Boehner Say things like; "We can't afford it right now" or "It's too expensive" or "We shouldn't rush healthcare reform."

Easy for him to say. He has healthcare coverage.

When was the last time a congressman got his insurance canceled?

The_pantless_hero wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:20% of the total uninsured are illegal immigrants. We should not be raising taxes on anyone to provide health coverage to criminals.

Criminals that build your house, pick your vegetables and fruits, and dig your ditches.
I think we better give them healthcare.

Sibirsky wrote:Ok, well that doesn't change the fact that the majority of those reading this thread cannot vote for/against BNP.

Sibirsky wrote:

The_pantless_hero wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:20% of the total uninsured are illegal immigrants. We should not be raising taxes on anyone to provide health coverage to criminals.

Criminals that build your house, pick your vegetables and fruits, and dig your ditches.
I think we better give them healthcare.

They broke the law. They should be punished, not rewarded.

Sibirsky wrote:

The_pantless_hero wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:20% of the total uninsured are illegal immigrants. We should not be raising taxes on anyone to provide health coverage to criminals.

Criminals that build your house, pick your vegetables and fruits, and dig your ditches.
I think we better give them healthcare.

They broke the law. They should be punished, not rewarded.

The_pantless_hero wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:20% of the total uninsured are illegal immigrants. We should not be raising taxes on anyone to provide health coverage to criminals.

Criminals that build your house, pick your vegetables and fruits, and dig your ditches.
I think we better give them healthcare.

Eugene Zolo wrote:

The_pantless_hero wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:20% of the total uninsured are illegal immigrants. We should not be raising taxes on anyone to provide health coverage to criminals.

Criminals that build your house, pick your vegetables and fruits, and dig your ditches.
I think we better give them healthcare.

I think we better not. I don't think money should stolen from US citizens to provide healthcare for illegal immigrants.

Surote wrote:

Eugene Zolo wrote:

The_pantless_hero wrote:Criminals that build your house, pick your vegetables and fruits, and dig your ditches.
I think we better give them healthcare.

I think we better not. I don't think money should stolen from US citizens to provide healthcare for illegal immigrants.

Do you see what's happening It's for the poor people you know the ones that carry america my mother and are poor and we can't afford healthcare but the repubs don't want to help cut the cost cause they care about the ceo's only it sucks

Eugene Zolo wrote:

The_pantless_hero wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:20% of the total uninsured are illegal immigrants. We should not be raising taxes on anyone to provide health coverage to criminals.

Criminals that build your house, pick your vegetables and fruits, and dig your ditches.
I think we better give them healthcare.

I think we better not. I don't think money should stolen from US citizens to provide healthcare for illegal immigrants.

Surote wrote:My mother is legal just like me yet we can't afford healthcare

Sibirsky wrote:

Surote wrote:My mother is legal just like me yet we can't afford healthcare

Ok. Well not ok, but we were not discussing your situation at the moment. We were saying how ILLEGAL immigrants should not be provided healthcare at the expense of American citizens.

Sibirsky wrote:

Surote wrote:My mother is legal just like me yet we can't afford healthcare

Ok. Well not ok, but we were not discussing your situation at the moment. We were saying how ILLEGAL immigrants should not be provided healthcare at the expense of American citizens.

Treznor wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:

Surote wrote:My mother is legal just like me yet we can't afford healthcare

Ok. Well not ok, but we were not discussing your situation at the moment. We were saying how ILLEGAL immigrants should not be provided healthcare at the expense of American citizens.

Yes, we are discussing his situation. The OP is about healthcare reform, not about how illegal immigrants are destroying the nation. That's just a strawman conservatives are using to try to distract from the real issue, which is that the US healthcare system is broken, and it's broken because it's focused more on profit and less on helping people.

Do you see what's happening It's for the poor people you know the ones that carry america my mother and are poor and we can't afford healthcare but the repubs don't want to help cut the cost cause they care about the ceo's only it sucks

Surote wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:

Surote wrote:My mother is legal just like me yet we can't afford healthcare

Ok. Well not ok, but we were not discussing your situation at the moment. We were saying how ILLEGAL immigrants should not be provided healthcare at the expense of American citizens.

But listen your saying that it should be shot down so the bussiness do it I bet the govt. will make it so illegal people don't get it all I'm saying is if we can cut the tag then alot of people will be okay

Eugene Zolo wrote:

Do you see what's happening It's for the poor people you know the ones that carry america my mother and are poor and we can't afford healthcare but the repubs don't want to help cut the cost cause they care about the ceo's only it sucks

Firstly the majority of Americans ARE insured, and its the majority that carry America. The Republicans don't want to help cut cost, because they don't feel that someone else should be paying for your healthcare. Its not my job to pay for your healthcare and you have no right to steal money from me or any other American to pay for your health insurance. I feel bad that your mother is uninsured, but she is not my responsibility.

Opola wrote:11 million of the uninsured are illegal immigrants who do not qualify for insurance
21.8 million are kids who choose not to have insurance but can afford it

Opola wrote:11 million of the uninsured are illegal immigrants who do not qualify for insurance
21.8 million are kids who choose not to have insurance but can afford it

Surote wrote:

Eugene Zolo wrote:

Do you see what's happening It's for the poor people you know the ones that carry america my mother and are poor and we can't afford healthcare but the repubs don't want to help cut the cost cause they care about the ceo's only it sucks

Firstly the majority of Americans ARE insured, and its the majority that carry America. The Republicans don't want to help cut cost, because they don't feel that someone else should be paying for your healthcare. Its not my job to pay for your healthcare and you have no right to steal money from me or any other American to pay for your health insurance. I feel bad that your mother is uninsured, but she is not my responsibility.

It's this society job to help each other because if the poor and mid class go down the whole economy will collaspse and don't tell me that majority maybe insured but most of them have to pay the majortity of the bill cause the greedy companies use the money we give for vacations and treatments at the spa not to pay off someones helth expenses like they should.

Surote wrote:

Eugene Zolo wrote:

Do you see what's happening It's for the poor people you know the ones that carry america my mother and are poor and we can't afford healthcare but the repubs don't want to help cut the cost cause they care about the ceo's only it sucks

Firstly the majority of Americans ARE insured, and its the majority that carry America. The Republicans don't want to help cut cost, because they don't feel that someone else should be paying for your healthcare. Its not my job to pay for your healthcare and you have no right to steal money from me or any other American to pay for your health insurance. I feel bad that your mother is uninsured, but she is not my responsibility.

It's this society job to help each other because if the poor and mid class go down the whole economy will collaspse and don't tell me that majority maybe insured but most of them have to pay the majortity of the bill cause the greedy companies use the money we give for vacations and treatments at the spa not to pay off someones helth expenses like they should.