Crime down in UK by 5%

[Colonic Immigration]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8153392.stm
Some exceptions, but 'tever.

[No Names Left Damn It]

The murder rate's at the lowest in 20 years as well.

[Thethunderdome]

Good for Britain, but the last part made me

Gordon Brown said he wanted to make carrying a blade as "unacceptable" as having a gun on the streets.

"We will do everything in our power to prevent people having knives."

[Buffett and Colbert]

[Ifreann]

The immigrants are destroying the British way of life! The PC Brigade will cause societal collapse! Secular liberals are eroding morality! Video games will turn our kids into murderers! BAN THIS SICK.....wait, crime is down?!




Fuck.

[Colonic Immigration]

Good for Britain, but the last part made me

Gordon Brown said he wanted to make carrying a blade as "unacceptable" as having a gun on the streets.

"We will do everything in our power to prevent people having knives."

How will I butter my toast?

[Ifreann]

Good for Britain, but the last part made me

Gordon Brown said he wanted to make carrying a blade as "unacceptable" as having a gun on the streets.

"We will do everything in our power to prevent people having knives."

How will I butter my toast?

With a spatula.

[Bears Armed]

Good for Britain, but the last part made me

Gordon Brown said he wanted to make carrying a blade as "unacceptable" as having a gun on the streets.

"We will do everything in our power to prevent people having knives."

How will I butter my toast?

Butter your own toast?!?
Clearly, the government will create a service of highly qualified (and highly paid) public employees to do the toast-buttering for everybody...

[Ifreann]

How will I butter my toast?

Butter your own toast?!?
Clearly, the government will create a service of highly qualified (and highly paid) public employees to do the toast-buttering for everybody...

Sweet! Government toast!

[Nadkor]

I call godmod.

[Allanea]

The murder rate's at the lowest in 20 years as well.

It's certainly higher than last year's:

All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

[No Names Left Damn It]

All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

Really? I read an article today on the BBC website saying the exact opposite.

[Ifreann]

The murder rate's at the lowest in 20 years as well.

It's certainly higher than last year's:

All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

Where does it say that bit about murder?

[Bears Armed]

The murder rate's at the lowest in 20 years as well.

It's certainly higher than last year's:

All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

And it's only "police-recorded" crime that's down, so that if people have become less likely to bother reporting 'minor' crime to the authorities (because they expect that nothing would be done about it anyway, so there's no point in bothering...) or the police have changed their policy on what gets 'recorded' as a crime (for example, if they no longer do so for any incidents that get dealt with by a warning or a summary fine rather than by actually bringing charges... and perhaps are dealing with more incidents in those ways than was formerly the case...) then the figures might not be entirely accurate in the first place...

[No Names Left Damn It]

It's certainly higher than last year's:

All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

That's obviously wrong, here you go: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8153392.stm

[Thethunderdome]

The murder rate's at the lowest in 20 years as well.

It's certainly higher than last year's:

All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

Where does it say that bit about murder?

It shows there were five million recorded crimes. All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

Just before it starts talking about Scotland, 4 or 5 paragraphs down.

[Hamilay]

The murder rate's at the lowest in 20 years as well.

It's certainly higher than last year's:

All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

Where does it say that bit about murder?

It's in the 6th paragraph of the article linked in the OP...

[Ifreann]

The murder rate's at the lowest in 20 years as well.

It's certainly higher than last year's:

All the main categories were down, including violent crime and sex offences, but drug offences were up 18%, gun crime was up 2% and murder was up 3%.

And it's only "police-recorded" crime that's down, so that if people have become less likely to bother reporting 'minor' crime to the authorities (because they expect that nothing would be done about it anyway, so there's no point in bothering...) or the police have changed their policy on what gets 'recorded' as a crime (for example, if they no longer do so for any incidents that get dealt with by a warning or a summary fine rather than by actually bringing charges... and perhaps are dealing with more incidents in those ways than was formerly the case...) then the figures might not be entirely accurate in the first place...

Not quite.

The annual report combines police-recorded crime and statistics from the British Crime Survey (BCS), a victimisation survey which asked 47,000 adults about their experience of crimes.

[No Names Left Damn It]

That's odd, the OP clashes with this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8153392.stm, which claims a drop of 17% in the murder rate.

[Ifreann]

Hahaha, oh wow. I have discovered a problem chaps.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7511192.stm "Page last updated at 16:54 GMT, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:54 UK"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8153392.stm "Page last updated at 12:29 GMT, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:29 UK"

OP is a year late. Crime The risk of being a victim is, in fact, slightly up on last year, making me look rather foolish with that sarcastic bit up above but the overall crime rate is down 5%.

[Thethunderdome]

That's odd, the OP clashes with this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8153392.stm, which claims a drop of 17% in the murder rate.

There are quite a few discrepancies; For example, the first says lowest chances of becoming a victim ever, second says 1% increase from last year. As Ifreann said above, the first article uses the Police and BCS stats, while the second looks like just BCS stats, not really sure though. At least the graph says BCS.

ETA: Nevermind, I fail at looking at dates

[Pure Metal]

i guess the Daily Fail will have to come up with new ways of scaring people now

[Ifreann]

i guess the Daily Fail will have to come up with new ways of scaring people now

I dunno.....theft is up, attempted murder with knives is up, violent offences are up with a 5% increase in women raped.

[Pure Metal]

i guess the Daily Fail will have to come up with new ways of scaring people now

I dunno.....theft is up, attempted murder with knives is up, violent offences are up with a 5% increase in women raped.

damn those Muslims. if only DIANA were here....

[Colonic Immigration]

Hahaha, oh wow. I have discovered a problem chaps.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7511192.stm "Page last updated at 16:54 GMT, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:54 UK"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8153392.stm "Page last updated at 12:29 GMT, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:29 UK"

OP is a year late. Crime The risk of being a victim is, in fact, slightly up on last year, making me look rather foolish with that sarcastic bit up above but the overall crime rate is down 5%.

Ooops.