Christian Theology Thread

[St George of England]

Yeah. I have no idea why so many people hold the disillusion that Anglicans are Protestants. For lack of a better term I would consider them "Canterbury" Catholics in contrast to the "Roman" Catholics. The split seems entirely political and less theological.

Anglicans have over time come to differ on theological doctrine, and therefore are heretics and not just another label of Catholicism. But yes, when it first happened, it was purely political, nothing more. When a church decides to give up central authority on doctrinal issues you tend to see doctrine start to waver, as is between Protestants, and in some cases, Orthodoxy.

Actually, you could argue the split from Rome was inevitable. As far back as the Saxon times the English church was in conflict with the Pope. William the Conquerer's invasion was a Papal sanctioned crusade, after all. And protestantism was the last of several sects to spring up during the middle ages. If the Pope wasn't
a) too obsessed with Jerusalem
b) too busy with conflicts (the avignon-rome split)
c) too corrupt (relics, payment to get into heaven, corrupt monks and priests, etc.)
Protestantism would have gone the way of Catharism.

[Sierra Lobo]

Yeah. I have no idea why so many people hold the disillusion that Anglicans are Protestants. For lack of a better term I would consider them "Canterbury" Catholics in contrast to the "Roman" Catholics. The split seems entirely political and less theological.

Anglicans have over time come to differ on theological doctrine, and therefore are heretics and not just another label of Catholicism. But yes, when it first happened, it was purely political, nothing more. When a church decides to give up central authority on doctrinal issues you tend to see doctrine start to waver, as is between Protestants, and in some cases, Orthodoxy.

Terraius do you have a compiled differences (a chart perhaps would be enlightening especially on major areas of differences) between theological doctrines among christian denominations. This will help shed light to the misconception that christians hold the same belief. The only central aspect within the christian doctrine is just jesus and the bible, after that there only exists a multitude of differences between faction.

[Sierra Lobo]

Anglicans have over time come to differ on theological doctrine, and therefore are heretics and not just another label of Catholicism. But yes, when it first happened, it was purely political, nothing more. When a church decides to give up central authority on doctrinal issues you tend to see doctrine start to waver, as is between Protestants, and in some cases, Orthodoxy.

Actually, you could argue the split from Rome was inevitable. As far back as the Saxon times the English church was in conflict with the Pope. William the Conquerer's invasion was a Papal sanctioned crusade, after all. And protestantism was the last of several sects to spring up during the middle ages. If the Pope wasn't
a) too obsessed with Jerusalem
b) too busy with conflicts (the avignon-rome split)
c) too corrupt (relics, payment to get into heaven, corrupt monks and priests, etc.)
Protestantism would have gone the way of Catharism.

Was it not the split finally occurred because King Henry VIII wants a divorce but rome dont like it.

[St George of England]

Actually, you could argue the split from Rome was inevitable. As far back as the Saxon times the English church was in conflict with the Pope. William the Conquerer's invasion was a Papal sanctioned crusade, after all. And protestantism was the last of several sects to spring up during the middle ages. If the Pope wasn't
a) too obsessed with Jerusalem
b) too busy with conflicts (the avignon-rome split)
c) too corrupt (relics, payment to get into heaven, corrupt monks and priests, etc.)
Protestantism would have gone the way of Catharism.

Was it not the split finally occurred because King Henry VIII wants a divorce but rome dont like it.

More like Spain didn't like it. The Holy Roman Emperor died and the kings of France and Spain both wanted Papal (and English) backing for the throne of the HRE. The Pope backed Charles V of Spain, so France actually makes an alliance with the Ottoman Empire (depriving His Holyness from the recruiting grounds for all of the crusades). Charles invades Italy and takes Rome. Charles is the nephew of Catherine of Aragon and wouldn't want Henry divorcing her.

A larger reason for the split was, despite Henry VII's financial acumen, his son has frittered away most of his money on wars and palaces. The Church is rich.

[Kyr Shorn]

He didn't say anything about Darth Pope's Nazi connections, he was talking about the overt use of religion by the Nazi Party and that Hitler himself believed that he was doing God's work.

Besides this thread isn't about Hitler being a secret Catholic/Protestant/Atheist/Pagan/Satanist or the Nazi status of the Evil Emperor of Catholism. It's about the rather sad attempts across the span of two millennia to defend an incoherent and violent religion with logic.

As not a mod, Im going to give you a friendly warning not to flamebait. You yourself have failed to provide any worth while credible information, so your in no place to sit and insult others here who have.

This isn't flamebait, it's my own personal opinion, if you have a problem with it then that is simply your problem, not mine, besides I've read worse about Darth Benedict on this site without any warnings being issued about it.

[Terraius]

As not a mod, Im going to give you a friendly warning not to flamebait. You yourself have failed to provide any worth while credible information, so your in no place to sit and insult others here who have.

This isn't flamebait, it's my own personal opinion, if you have a problem with it then that is simply your problem, not mine, besides I've read worse about Darth Benedict on this site without any warnings being issued about it.

I wasnt refering to your commenting on the Pope. I was refering to 'It's about the rather sad attempts across the span of two millennia to defend an incoherent and violent religion with logic.'

You can say what you want about the Pope, obviously, for as far as I know he doesn't play Nationstates, but your comment implying that those attempting to defend Christianity, And thus people in this thread, who DO Play nationstates.

Also your obnoxious bolding isnt helping either.

[Osthia]

As not a mod, Im going to give you a friendly warning not to flamebait. You yourself have failed to provide any worth while credible information, so your in no place to sit and insult others here who have.

This isn't flamebait, it's my own personal opinion, if you have a problem with it then that is simply your problem, not mine, besides I've read worse about Darth Benedict on this site without any warnings being issued about it.

I loled when I saw the Darth Benedict. Would have punched you in the face if it was Pope John Paul II who was the Pope, but I find his sad attempt of trying to make me be mad about our current Pope (which I wish had not been chosen).

[Cybach]

Why does no one ever emphasize that Benedict deserted from the German military? A pretty brave and reckless action considering he could have been executed for treason over it.

[Luna Amore]

Ignostic. Kinda hard to believe or disbelieve in something when no one can decide on a concrete definition.

[Wielkopolskia]

Christian Theology: Keep praying to a fictional creation so your energies aren't used to fight the rule of the propertied classes over society.

[The Rich Port]

Christian Theology: Keep praying to a fictional creation so your energies aren't used to fight the rule of the propertied classes over society.

You sound terribly familiar...

[Cybach]

Christian Theology: Keep praying to a fictional creation so your energies aren't used to fight the rule of the propertied classes over society.

Then why is the clergy often associated with socialism and common welfare in South American politics? The fascists and right-wing had to murder more than a few priests, bishops and arch-bishop for their support to the socialist cause.

[Hetalia Bulgaria]

Muslim, yo~!