THE PRESIDENT

[Ahmedica]

Subject: What Passport Did He Use?
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> Another question arises. Will we ever know all the answers?
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> Logical and rational linear thinkers believe the issue can be resolved by
> Obama answering one simple question:
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> What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York
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> Jakarta, and Karachi?
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> So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without
> the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price
> of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
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> And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and
> Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and
> Immigration?
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> The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions,
> they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a
> rather short and simple one.
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> Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
> A : Yes, by his own admission.
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> Q: What passport did he travel under?
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> A: There are only three possibilities.
> 1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
> 2) He traveled with a British passport, or
> 3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
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> Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
> A: No. It is not possible.
> Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in
> 1981.
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> Conclusion:
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> When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British
> passport or an Indonesian passport.
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> If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that
> he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And
> if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove
> that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or
> American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967..
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> Whatever the truth of the matter,the American people need to know how he
> managed to become a "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and
> 2008..
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> Given the destructive nature of his plans for America ,
> as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending
> plan he has presented to Congress,
> the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
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> If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in
> Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this and go back into your
> cocoon.
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> If you do care then Forward this!

[Conserative Morality]

*sigh* Why don't you people listen to the facts? I mean, just ONCE! TAI did! Why can't you?

[Pitchman Billy Mays]

We have a right to know. And the democrat party has something to answer for if their candidate was not qualified to run in the first place. If necessary, he needs to be disqualified from the result of Election 2008.

[East Drakovia]

Looks like a Copy and Paste Job from some email.

Time to lock this thread.

[Blouman Empire]

Note to self only post on NSG with main nation.

[The Romulan Republic]

We have a right to know. And the democrat party has something to answer for if their candidate was not qualified to run in the first place. If necessary, he needs to be disqualified from the result of Election 2008.

What a load of bullshit. You really think that if he couldn't legally run the Republicans wouldn't have found out? Hell, you think Hillary Clinton wouldn't have found out? You think nobody checks these things? The thing is, I don't think you want "a right to know." You don't want to know at all. You want to continue to believe what you want to believe, no matter how many times the truth is shoved in your face. If Obama showed you his passport you would just say its a fraud, wouldn't you? And I suppose if the government employees who verified his passport and birth certificate swore it was all valid, they'd just be being mind controlled by the New World Order or something?

Why do people find it so easy to believe this garbage? Is it because they think a black man with the name Barrak Husein Obama couldn't possibly be born in the sacred white Christian nation that is the America of their twisted dreams?

Or do they just not realize that Hawaii counts as American soil?

[Yenke-Bin]

http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/travel/ci ... an1981.pdf


Only a travel advisory, meaning you could have traveled to Pakistan in 1981, which many Americans did.

[Lapse]

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> If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in
> Violation of the Constitution

This.

[Chrobalta]

LOL, he is a US citizen and was born one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barac ... Hawaii.jpg

[Parthenon]

LOL, he is a US citizen and was born one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barac ... Hawaii.jpg

Wheres the crease?

[Pitchman Billy Mays]

We have a right to know. And the democrat party has something to answer for if their candidate was not qualified to run in the first place. If necessary, he needs to be disqualified from the result of Election 2008.

What a load of bullshit. You really think that if he couldn't legally run the Republicans wouldn't have found out? Hell, you think Hillary Clinton wouldn't have found out? You think nobody checks these things? The thing is, I don't think you want "a right to know." You don't want to know at all. You want to continue to believe what you want to believe, no matter how many times the truth is shoved in your face. If Obama showed you his passport you would just say its a fraud, wouldn't you? And I suppose if the government employees who verified his passport and birth certificate swore it was all valid, they'd just be being mind controlled by the New World Order or something?

Why do people find it so easy to believe this garbage? Is it because they think a black man with the name Barrak Husein Obama couldn't possibly be born in the sacred white Christian nation that is the America of their twisted dreams?

Or do they just not realize that Hawaii counts as American soil?

Stirring the pot is always fun, and the foam-at-the-mouth reactions of the ObamaBots are always hilarious. I have no illusions, they will keep hailing their leader and messiah and he will slowly destroy the great republic.

[Saint Clair Island]

Stirring the pot is always fun, and the foam-at-the-mouth reactions of the ObamaBots are always hilarious. I have no illusions, they will keep hailing their leader and messiah and he will slowly destroy the great republic.

And you'll just sit by and let that happen? No! You must take action! There's a reason we have the second amendment and it's just for situations like this one -- wasn't it Tommy Jefferson who said in the Declaration of Independence, no less, that we have a solemn duty to overthrow any illegitimate government? Pack up your sniper rifle and head for Washington, 'cause this problem isn't going to solve itself!

[Yenke-Bin]

Conspiracy nuts are funny. Keep it up. Let me go get some tin foil for your fancy hats.

[The Romulan Republic]

Stirring the pot is always fun, and the foam-at-the-mouth reactions of the ObamaBots are always hilarious. I have no illusions, they will keep hailing their leader and messiah and he will slowly destroy the great republic.

As I said, I don't think you want to know the truth. You want to keep believing that the President is a lier and fraud who lacks legitimacy, and that his supporters are all a bunch of rabid nuts and "reactionaries," because apparently that's easier than accepting that your side legitimately lost to the majority of Americans who supported Obama. Democracy as long as your side wins, eh?

And let's get something straight: my views on Obama are decidedly mixed. I am not a "Bot," I do not think Obama is a messiah, but I also don't think he is destroying "the great republic." I worship no man, politician or otherwise, but I don't have to worship a man, or even agree with him, in order to defend him against malicious slander or believe that the truth is sacred.

I wouldn't expect you to understand that you can disagree with someone and still respect them however, or that you can agree with or defend someone without worshipping them blindly. One of the hallmarks of modern conservatism is the black and white world view that seems to lump everyone into "us" and "enemies." This incidentally is part of why much of the current American Right Wing's goals and policies are antithetical to a free and democratic society, where tolerance of and respect for opposing views and respect for the will of the democratic majority are essential.

[The Romulan Republic]

And you'll just sit by and let that happen? No! You must take action! There's a reason we have the second amendment and it's just for situations like this one -- wasn't it Tommy Jefferson who said in the Declaration of Independence, no less, that we have a solemn duty to overthrow any illegitimate government? Pack up your sniper rifle and head for Washington, 'cause this problem isn't going to solve itself!

Please, don't encourage that kind of thinking, even as a joke.

I can't stop you saying it, but I hope you and everyone else who reads this will keep in mind that their are people who actually think that way. I would never make such comments, because I don't want to wake up one day and find out that someone took me seriously.

[Saint Clair Island]

And you'll just sit by and let that happen? No! You must take action! There's a reason we have the second amendment and it's just for situations like this one -- wasn't it Tommy Jefferson who said in the Declaration of Independence, no less, that we have a solemn duty to overthrow any illegitimate government? Pack up your sniper rifle and head for Washington, 'cause this problem isn't going to solve itself!

Please, don't encourage that kind of thinking, even as a joke.

I can't stop you saying it, but I hope you and everyone else who reads this will keep in mind that their are people who actually think that way. I would never make such comments, because I don't want to wake up one day and find out that someone took me seriously.

Of course there are such people -- and if they show up here to voice agreement with me, I'll find some way to give them pause as well.

On the other hand, I could be seen as inciting people to violence, which is probably against the law.... and judges are notorious for their lack of sense of humour.

[Sibirsky]

LOL, he is a US citizen and was born one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barac ... Hawaii.jpg

That's not an original.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Subject: What Passport Did He Use?
ETC. bullshit

Ok Ahmedica, you go petition Chief Justice John Roberts and let him know the truth, ok?

[Pitchman Billy Mays]

Stirring the pot is always fun, and the foam-at-the-mouth reactions of the ObamaBots are always hilarious. I have no illusions, they will keep hailing their leader and messiah and he will slowly destroy the great republic.

And you'll just sit by and let that happen? No! You must take action! There's a reason we have the second amendment and it's just for situations like this one -- wasn't it Tommy Jefferson who said in the Declaration of Independence, no less, that we have a solemn duty to overthrow any illegitimate government? Pack up your sniper rifle and head for Washington, 'cause this problem isn't going to solve itself!

There is plenty of reason to overthrow the government, but we must start with congress. The American people have not only a right but a duty to arrest and put on trial for treason all congresscritters who voted for any of the bailouts. Starting with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

By the way, was John McCain eligible to be president? Wasn't he born outside the Panama Canal zone?

And now you see why there is such a thing as the second amendment. I do agree, there ought to be a march on Washington to restore the republic. A second revolution one could call it.

[Barringtonia]

People who lend any credence to this are merely announcing themselves to be quite stupid.

[Saint Clair Island]

Stirring the pot is always fun, and the foam-at-the-mouth reactions of the ObamaBots are always hilarious. I have no illusions, they will keep hailing their leader and messiah and he will slowly destroy the great republic.

And you'll just sit by and let that happen? No! You must take action! There's a reason we have the second amendment and it's just for situations like this one -- wasn't it Tommy Jefferson who said in the Declaration of Independence, no less, that we have a solemn duty to overthrow any illegitimate government? Pack up your sniper rifle and head for Washington, 'cause this problem isn't going to solve itself!

There is plenty of reason to overthrow the government, but we must start with congress. The American people have not only a right but a duty to arrest and put on trial for treason all congresscritters who voted for any of the bailouts. Starting with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

By the way, was John McCain eligible to be president? Wasn't he born outside the Panama Canal zone?

And now you see why there is such a thing as the second amendment. I do agree, there ought to be a march on Washington to restore the republic. A second revolution one could call it.

Trials? Marches? Please. Nothing short of obtaining a nuclear warhead and detonating it in Washington D.C. will cleanse the cancer at its roots. The Congress on trial for treason? Their lawyer friends would get them off and we'd be right back where we started. Finding people willing to march on Washington and get infected with the stupidity? Good luck on that. Even shooting them all would just make them into martyrs like the ebil moslem terrorists. This is one of those problems that can only be solved through nuclear warfare -- a bit of a stretch Constitutionally speaking, I know, but "the right to bear arms" doesn't just apply to muskets and bolt-action rifles anymore.

[Triniteras2]

If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this and go back into your cocoon.

I take it you'd have preferred McCain.

[Chrobalta]

why does the supreme court refuse to here any cases about this? After all their were 4 conservatives and 4 liberals on it, and 1 non-partisian. So its not as if the Supreme court is part of some liberal obama conspiracy?

What, did they simply forge the birth certificate copy? Wait, is the state of Hawaii with a REPUBLICAN governor in on this?
Why did ALL the members of congress ratify the election? UNANIMOUSLY.


The conspiracy is fueled by a bunch of nuts like Rush who pull facts out of their ass.

better question, why cant hte conspiracy nuts agree upon one location where he was born, was it pakistan, kenya or indonesia?

[The Romulan Republic]

There is plenty of reason to overthrow the government, but we must start with congress. The American people have not only a right but a duty to arrest and put on trial for treason all congresscritters who voted for any of the bailouts. Starting with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

So, when your side looses an election, its time to throw aside over 200 years of (mostly) peaceful democracy and start a revolution? Voting for a questionable economic policy is grounds to arrest and try your political opponents now?

By the way, was John McCain eligible to be president? Wasn't he born outside the Panama Canal zone?

He was born on a military base, which counts as being born inside the US. Or at least that's what I recall from the election months.

See, I can oppose someone's policies without attacking their citizenship.

And now you see why there is such a thing as the second amendment. I do agree, there ought to be a march on Washington to restore the republic. A second revolution one could call it.

You are calling for the overthrow of the government by force of arms, or at least heavily implying it. The US has extraordinary protections for freedom of speech, but even in America, I'm betting that this is pushing it. And no, that's not because Obama is going to imprison all dissenters. Its because a domestic terrorist is still a terrorist, even if he's not a Muslim.

You sicken me. Your side doesn't win in a democratic election, so you'll believe any lie rather than accept the legitimate political opposition of a democracy that you claim to defend. And rather than try to change the government you don't like peacefully and within the democratic political system the Founders established, you leap to advocating a course of action that would almost certainly ignite a blood bath and quite possibly the collapse of the United States.

[The Romulan Republic]

The conspiracy is fueled by a bunch of nuts like Rush who pull facts out of their ass.

"The truth has a well known liberal bias."