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Postby Old Erisia » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:39 am

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Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I think the punishment is completely barbaric in my opinion. All just for chocolate?


He may have a longer criminal record than just this. Additionally, we don't know how much, or what kinds of chocolate he stole. Additionally, he obviously had the funds at hand (budum ptsh) to legally acquire the chocolate.

The article implied that the money and gloves were also stolen...
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Postby Techno-Kat » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:09 am

Old Erisia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Was that a law? - Yes
Is he a criminal? - Yes

Perhaps he should have thought that his hand will be cut off before he committed a crime.

Well from the brief article, it seems that the judge may be using extreme sentencing, even for their system.


Honestly, I thought this shit was common over there since it was Sharia Law and all that. This doesn't seem extreme at all for Iran.
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Postby Saint Clair Island » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:13 am

You gotta hand it to those Iranians -- heavy-handed, perhaps, but they're undeniably getting a handle on their theft problem.
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Postby Urcea » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:17 am

Saint Clair Island wrote:You gotta hand it to those Iranians -- heavy-handed, perhaps, but they're undeniably getting a handle on their theft problem.

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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:21 am

Old Erisia wrote:The article implied that the money and gloves were also stolen...


The article also implied that he wasn't a repeat offender, and that in this case, hand-amputation seems extreme. The article is almost devoid of real information, so I figure I will try to stick to the basics. Obviously, if the money, and gloves are also stolen then it makes more sense that he receive the heavier punishment.
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:21 am

Saint Clair Island wrote:You gotta hand it to those Iranians -- heavy-handed, perhaps, but they're undeniably getting a handle on their theft problem.


Handily said.
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Postby Strategion » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:26 am

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Saint Clair Island wrote:You gotta hand it to those Iranians -- heavy-handed, perhaps, but they're undeniably getting a handle on their theft problem.


Handily said.

Give them a hand!

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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:30 am

Strategion wrote:Give them a hand!


It seems like there is something I should say in response to this, but I can't think of it offhand, give me a minute.
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Postby Old Erisia » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:31 am

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Old Erisia wrote:The article implied that the money and gloves were also stolen...


The article also implied that he wasn't a repeat offender, and that in this case, hand-amputation seems extreme. The article is almost devoid of real information, so I figure I will try to stick to the basics. Obviously, if the money, and gloves are also stolen then it makes more sense that he receive the heavier punishment.

I originally argued your first point until someone pointed out that multiple articles stolen could constitute multiple thefts. I thought it made sense in the eyes of their law...
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:36 am

I've got to hand it to Iran. They're pretty cocoa.
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Postby Saint Clair Island » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:39 am

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Strategion wrote:Give them a hand!


It seems like there is something I should say in response to this, but I can't think of it offhand, give me a minute.

Your handiwork is inferior, friend Teutoniker. If this devolves into a mess of bad puns, it'll be on your hands.
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:08 am

Old Erisia wrote:I originally argued your first point until someone pointed out that multiple articles stolen could constitute multiple thefts. I thought it made sense in the eyes of their law...


I'm just saying that the information in the article is less than great. I mean, maybe he only stole the chocolate, maybe he's been caught previously, and amputation isn't as rare as reported.

Basically, I judge the situation on the information that is clearly given.
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Postby Carls-land » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:16 am

He also stealed money, if he had stealed only chocolate i doubt he would have gotten that punishment.

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Postby Old Erisia » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:27 am

Saint Clair Island wrote:
Der Teutoniker wrote:
It seems like there is something I should say in response to this, but I can't think of it offhand, give me a minute.

Your handiwork is inferior, friend Teutoniker. If this devolves into a mess of bad puns, it'll be on your hands.

I wash my hands of all three of you... *shakes head sadly*
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:28 am

Old Erisia wrote:I wash my hands of all three of you... *shakes head sadly*


I guess we're in the Norn's hands then
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Postby Sierra Lobo » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:48 am

Reichskommissariat ost wrote:If you live in Europe and your gonna steal something be prepared for a fine , maybe for even a little jail sentence.
If you live in Iran and your gonna steal something be prepared for the loss of your hand, if you valuate chocolate more then your hand , then its your decision.


Very nice. Problem is some immigrants from these countries wants to bring sharia law to the western hemisphere and label people to be intolerant if they dont agree.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:52 am

If only they would do that to the scum that stole from me...
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Postby Sierra Lobo » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:52 am

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Reichskommissariat ost wrote:If you live in Europe and your gonna steal something be prepared for a fine , maybe for even a little jail sentence.
If you live in Iran and your gonna steal something be prepared for the loss of your hand, if you valuate chocolate more then your hand , then its your decision.


And, not only is it a non-essential that he stole (he didn't steal bread to feed his starving family, for example) but he had $900 fucking sitting in his car. Either he stole that too, or could have afforded a damn candy bar.


kleptomania. Did the judge even consider that, or did those countries do not even consider this medical condition.

Edit: Anyway I am not in a position to take or comment what their laws are; the only thing I can say is that the proportionality of the crime vs. the punishment is not equal. It also did not show that the court has been exhaustive in its job to mete out the punishment .... maybe mental conditions do not even exists in those countries.
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Postby Rambhutan » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:41 pm

Anybody want to buy some hot chocolate?
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Postby Innsmothe » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:42 pm

Rambhutan wrote:Anybody want to buy some hot chocolate?

You know I hate puns, so why do you taunt me so?
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Postby Rambhutan » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:46 pm

Innsmothe wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:Anybody want to buy some hot chocolate?

You know I hate puns, so why do you taunt me so?


You would deprive me of my puns?
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Postby Innsmothe » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:49 pm

Rambhutan wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:You know I hate puns, so why do you taunt me so?


You would deprive me of my puns?


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I would deprive you of your tongue if you resist my plea. :(
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"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
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Postby Allrule » Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:12 pm

Innsmothe wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Um... what is unfortunate? - Punishing a Criminal?

Seriously people need to stop being sympathetic to the offender.


Mutilation for theft is not justice.

DURR HURR MAYBER HE SHUD HUV THUT DAAT HIS HUND WAS GUNNA BE CUT UFF BEFORE HE STUL DAT CHOKOLATE!!!111!!!1!!!!
:roll: An eye for an eye is not justice.
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Postby Innsmothe » Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:27 pm

Allrule wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:
Mutilation for theft is not justice.

DURR HURR MAYBER HE SHUD HUV THUT DAAT HIS HUND WAS GUNNA BE CUT UFF BEFORE HE STUL DAT CHOKOLATE!!!111!!!1!!!!
:roll: An eye for an eye is not justice.


Uh, you seem to be replying to my post which states the thing you are saying. :eyebrow:
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ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
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