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Re: If I only had $23,148,855,308,184,500...

Postby No Names Left Damn It » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:38 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:I'd buy the US and institute a new test for citizenship.

Only one question "Are you in favour of universal healthcare"?

The correct answer is yes. 'No' answers get you deported.


Speaking as a supporter of socialised healthcare, that's the most fucking ridiculous thing I've seen you say. You sound like Salin.
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Postby Rejistania » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:53 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:To be precise, $23,148,855,308,184,500 is going to cause a lot of inflation without gold backing in the currency. Until recently Zimbabweans used to be trading in sums as big as this, using notes like these:

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Hyperinflation at this scale has only happened in Zimbabwe and it would be a catastrophe for a scenario like this to happen in America.


It not only happened in Zimbabwe but also in Hungary and Yugoslavia.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:56 am

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Charlotte Ryberg wrote:To be precise, $23,148,855,308,184,500 is going to cause a lot of inflation without gold backing in the currency. Until recently Zimbabweans used to be trading in sums as big as this, using notes like these:

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Hyperinflation at this scale has only happened in Zimbabwe and it would be a catastrophe for a scenario like this to happen in America.


It not only happened in Zimbabwe but also in Hungary and Yugoslavia.

Don't forget Argentina.
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Postby No Names Left Damn It » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:56 am

greed and death wrote:Don't forget Argentina.


And Weimar Germany.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:58 am

I have a zimbabwean banknote somewhere and I KNOW that I've got the coins. Question is, how much are the coins worth? :unsure:
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Postby Lichwall » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:02 am

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Re: If I only had $23,148,855,308,184,500...

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:02 am

Buffett and Colbert wrote:I have a zimbabwean banknote somewhere and I KNOW that I've got the coins. Question is, how much are the coins worth? :unsure:


Probably not much. Zimbabwe's economy imploded.
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Postby Forsakia » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:29 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:To be precise, $23,148,855,308,184,500 is going to cause a lot of inflation without gold backing in the currency. Until recently Zimbabweans used to be trading in sums as big as this, using notes like these:

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Hyperinflation at this scale has only happened in Zimbabwe and it would be a catastrophe for a scenario like this to happen in America.



I seem to recall the Zimbabwe dollar had some sort of weird double value thing going on. Since there was the amount the note was worth on exchange markets (i.e. very very little) and there was what people who thought it'd be cool to have a trillion dollar note would pay for it on ebay (somewhat more).
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Re: If I only had $23,148,855,308,184,500...

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:34 am

The RBZ's official exchange rate was in the trillions, the black market rate was in quadrillions, and at eBay it was... whatever for how much the collectors thought it was worth: about £1.10 when I last bought one (so I could frame it).

Here's what I think might happen (noting that the Zim-dollar is suspended as of July 2009), if the Reserve Bank reintroduces it at face value and the exchange rate is less than 100 fifth dollars per American dollar I'd already qualify for the Forbes list along with other numismatists.
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Re: If I only had $23,148,855,308,184,500...

Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:37 am

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Derscon wrote:If I had that kind of money, it would mean nothing, because the value of the dollar would be virtually nothing. :(

Hmmm....Good point, if you did acquire that amount of money, the first move should be to buy as many precious metals as possible to keep its value...


At that point, the dollar would already have no value, so it would be almost impossible to afford so much of an ounce of gold.

I think the best thing to do would be to use the money to pay off everybody's debt that holds the debt in US dollars, and then proceed to burn the rest of the money in a bonfire in the Federal Reserve building.

It would be interesting to see what lengths people would go to to try and save the piles and piles of money from the bonfire.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:03 am

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:I'd buy the US and institute a new test for citizenship.

Only one question "Are you in favour of universal healthcare"?

The correct answer is yes. 'No' answers get you deported.


Speaking as a supporter of socialised healthcare, that's the most fucking ridiculous thing I've seen you say. You sound like Salin.


I think it's sad that you have so little knowledge of history, or such a ridiculously skewed perspective.
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Postby No Names Left Damn It » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:16 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:I think it's sad that you have so little knowledge of history, or such a ridiculously skewed perspective.


Kay great whatever, oh mighty one.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:27 am

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:I think it's sad that you have so little knowledge of history, or such a ridiculously skewed perspective.


Kay great whatever, oh mighty one.


Uh huh. Because communal healthcare is exactly like executions, secret police, informant programs and forced labour camps.

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Postby San Guillermo » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:37 am

With that kind of money, some of us would be able to fund and create their own nations.
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Postby No Names Left Damn It » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:38 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:Uh huh. Because communal healthcare is exactly like executions, secret police, informant programs and forced labour camps.

:rolleyes:


Look, deporting someone just because they don't share your socialist views is something a dictator would do.
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Postby Georgetpwn » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:33 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:I have a zimbabwean banknote somewhere and I KNOW that I've got the coins. Question is, how much are the coins worth? :unsure:


trade those coins in for scrap metal. they're worth more that way
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:36 pm

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:Uh huh. Because communal healthcare is exactly like executions, secret police, informant programs and forced labour camps.

:rolleyes:


Look, deporting someone just because they don't share your socialist views is something a dictator would do.


And all dictatorial policy is identical. Therefore, ruling that contributing to a communal healthplan (in - if you recall the OP, a country I owned) is morally equivalent to purges, assassinations, and rewards schemes for informants?

And - again, you persist in a misdirection - people would be deported for not being citizens. They would become non-citizens by answering that simple question wrong.

And, what's wrong with that? If someone isn't willing to contribute to their society... why WOULD you want them?
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Postby No Names Left Damn It » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:51 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:And - again, you persist in a misdirection - people would be deported for not being citizens. They would become non-citizens by answering that simple question wrong.


What about people who grew up in your country, but were against socialised healthcare? Do they get kicked out, away from family, friends and loved ones?
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Re: If I only had $23,148,855,308,184,500...

Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:37 pm

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:And - again, you persist in a misdirection - people would be deported for not being citizens. They would become non-citizens by answering that simple question wrong.


What about people who grew up in your country, but were against socialised healthcare? Do they get kicked out, away from family, friends and loved ones?


If they vote incorerctly on the test question, yes, obviously.

If they had any real sense of attachment to their family, friends, and society, they'd vote yes. If for no other reason than to stay.
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Postby West-Flanders » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:16 pm

Georgetpwn wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:I have a zimbabwean banknote somewhere and I KNOW that I've got the coins. Question is, how much are the coins worth? :unsure:


trade those coins in for scrap metal. they're worth more that way


Indeed, coins might be more worth that way than most zimbabwian paper banknotes. As a matter of fact, at a certain point it costed more to produce a banknote (paper, ink, printing) than the note was worth. They were making money with a loss! So they decided printing bigger notes,.. fueling the inflation even more. :palm:
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Re: If I only had $23,148,855,308,184,500...

Postby Vetalia » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:45 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:If they had any real sense of attachment to their family, friends, and society, they'd vote yes. If for no other reason than to stay.


I think that's sort of the policy North Korea uses in regard to emigrants. I guess it works...
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:47 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:If they had any real sense of attachment to their family, friends, and society, they'd vote yes. If for no other reason than to stay.


I think that's sort of the policy North Korea uses in regard to emigrants. I guess it works...


North Korea encourages people that don't like the regime to resettle?
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:53 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:If they had any real sense of attachment to their family, friends, and society, they'd vote yes. If for no other reason than to stay.


I think that's sort of the policy North Korea uses in regard to emigrants. I guess it works...


North Korea encourages people that don't like the regime to resettle?

I think they "resettle" them into Prisons, as well as the more traditional, bringing them out back to put a bullet in their head, ;)

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:54 pm

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Georgetpwn wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:I have a zimbabwean banknote somewhere and I KNOW that I've got the coins. Question is, how much are the coins worth? :unsure:


trade those coins in for scrap metal. they're worth more that way


Indeed, coins might be more worth that way than most zimbabwian paper banknotes. As a matter of fact, at a certain point it costed more to produce a banknote (paper, ink, printing) than the note was worth. They were making money with a loss! So they decided printing bigger notes,.. fueling the inflation even more. :palm:


A lot of money, including that in western nations, costs more to produce than the value it represents. Making a dime tends to cost more than a dime for instance.

But that is fine since money will not be used only once. The dime will represent the value of a dime millions of times during its lifetime.

As for the main question - hello interstellar starship.
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