
by Jingoist Hippostan » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:12 am

by Norstal » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:20 am
For another, saying no. Yeah, sorry, but if a guy has sex with you and you didn't push him away or attempt to stop him in any way, your fault. Unless of course there was fear of violence or you're mute or unconscious or otherwise couldn't do this. Not rape. The guy's probably a huge asshole, but you really should've made clear you didn't want to have sex with him. If you didn't, the incident is partially your fault.
Seriously guys. Rape is a really, really, horrible thing. And if someone says "He raped me," then that needs to actually mean something. Throwing the word rape around to describe any time you had sex and wished you hadn't or didn't really want to is offensive on about a hundred million different levels. I certainly don't think this is incredibly common - plenty of women are hesitant about the word rape, as well they should be. The problem is, I also know of many, far less mature girls who seem to use the word like it's going out of style.
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by SD_Film Artists » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:22 am

by Call to power » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:22 am
Jingoist Hippostan wrote:The word "rape" means "I was forced to have sex against my will, and am horrifically traumatized."

by Bottle » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:22 am

by SD_Film Artists » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:25 am

by Call to power » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:27 am
Bottle wrote:When I saw the topic, I was actually happy, because I thought maybe it was somebody speaking up about the really disgusting habit people have of tossing "rape" around in other contexts. Like, "We are totally going to rape the other team at our softball game this weekend!" Or, "Man, I just got raped by that exam, that was brutal."

by Bottle » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:49 am
Call to power wrote:Bottle wrote:When I saw the topic, I was actually happy, because I thought maybe it was somebody speaking up about the really disgusting habit people have of tossing "rape" around in other contexts. Like, "We are totally going to rape the other team at our softball game this weekend!" Or, "Man, I just got raped by that exam, that was brutal."
second.
I was about to be like "yeah I found myself copying it and horrifying a girl I was playing half life with" its just for some reason horrifying violent acts are acceptable to use like that in jest


by Neo Art » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:49 am

by Wilgrove » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:56 am

by Lauchlin » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:58 am
Wilgrove wrote:Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. If you sleep with a drunk woman, EVEN if she gives consent while drunk, then IMHO, it's rape. You can't give proper consent when you're intoxicated.

by MisanthropicPopulism » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:59 am
On the other hand, having sex with a drunk woman is not rape. It's a bit sleazy if she's hammered, but it's not rape. When you get drunk, you accept responsibility for the actions you take while drunk. That includes who you sleep with, who you run down with your car, what you say, etc. Being drunk does not magically make it so anything you do is not your fault, despite what some people seem to think.

by The Congregationists » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:00 am
Jingoist Hippostan wrote:For starters, alcohol. I'll be the first to say that if you just stick it in someone whose passed or or so drunk they're sliding in and out of consciousness and can't really tell what's going on, that's rape. On the other hand, having sex with a drunk woman is not rape. It's a bit sleazy if she's hammered, but it's not rape. When you get drunk, you accept responsibility for the actions you take while drunk. That includes who you sleep with, who you run down with your car, what you say, etc. Being drunk does not magically make it so anything you do is not your fault, despite what some people seem to think.

by Wilgrove » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:00 am
Lauchlin wrote:Wilgrove wrote:Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. If you sleep with a drunk woman, EVEN if she gives consent while drunk, then IMHO, it's rape. You can't give proper consent when you're intoxicated.
Stop trying to traumatize me. By that definition, I have been raped so many times. Twice in the last couple weeks, even!
I should go see a therapist.

by Sun Aut Ex » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:01 am
Wilgrove wrote:Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. If you sleep with a drunk woman, EVEN if she gives consent while drunk, then IMHO, it's rape. You can't give proper consent when you're intoxicated.
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by Lauchlin » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:02 am
Wilgrove wrote:Lauchlin wrote:Stop trying to traumatize me. By that definition, I have been raped so many times. Twice in the last couple weeks, even!
I should go see a therapist.
I never said it was a legal definition, it was just my own viewpoint. I would never sleep with a drunk woman because it's just not right. I mean she's drunk, she doesn't have all of her facilities running. She would probably consent to jumping off a bridge.

by SD_Film Artists » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:02 am
Wilgrove wrote:Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. If you sleep with a drunk woman, EVEN if she gives consent while drunk, then IMHO, it's rape. You can't give proper consent when you're intoxicated.

by Horsefish » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:03 am
Wilgrove wrote:Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. If you sleep with a drunk woman, EVEN if she gives consent while drunk, then IMHO, it's rape. You can't give proper consent when you're intoxicated.
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by Wilgrove » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:03 am
Sun Aut Ex wrote:Wilgrove wrote:Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. If you sleep with a drunk woman, EVEN if she gives consent while drunk, then IMHO, it's rape. You can't give proper consent when you're intoxicated.
So I'm a rapist? Keep in mind that I was more drunk (when I tell the story, I usually say "She took advantage of me").

by FroXer » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:04 am
Wilgrove wrote:Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. If you sleep with a drunk woman, EVEN if she gives consent while drunk, then IMHO, it's rape. You can't give proper consent when you're intoxicated.
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by Wilgrove » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:04 am
Horsefish wrote:Wilgrove wrote:Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. If you sleep with a drunk woman, EVEN if she gives consent while drunk, then IMHO, it's rape. You can't give proper consent when you're intoxicated.
If you are stone cold sober, and she's completely out of it, then it's abit iffy. If you've been drinking with that person for a while and your both drunk then it's fine.

by The Southern Dictators » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:04 am
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by Wilgrove » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:06 am
Lauchlin wrote:Wilgrove wrote:
I never said it was a legal definition, it was just my own viewpoint. I would never sleep with a drunk woman because it's just not right. I mean she's drunk, she doesn't have all of her facilities running. She would probably consent to jumping off a bridge.
You don't have a very high opinion of women, do you? Would you consent to jumping off a bridge after a few beers?
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