Black Pride! (Yay.) Brown Pride! (Yay.) White Pride! (Punch)

[Jesselbania]

White man was an asshole and owned black people. Black people just want some rights. I dont think it's right to be 'proud' of any race, They try to say we are the same, but are proud to be different. I also don't think what you are saying is right...

Check and mate! Sorry Relasene.

[Panzerjaeger]

Zimbabwe would prove that point. Whites in certain parts of Africa during the end of European Colonialism have been persecuted.

Of course they have. And it is wrong. As is any racism.

Of course, European Colonialism itself is at least somewhat to blame for retaliation and other consequences of the "end of European Cololnialism."

Not a great argument for "white pride."

It isn't an argument for White Pride. Are you suddenly illiterate? You keep repeating this point but no one is promoting white pride that you responded to. Also it is spelled COLONIALISM!

[The Cat-Tribe]

What makes you think "Rhodesia" is a good example of why "white pride" is a good thing?

Are you missing the bolded portion? They are discussing white people being discriminated against.

Nope.

Nor do I deny that white people are discriminated against and can be the victim of hate crimes. But in the context of this thread the point is fucking irrelevant or insignifcant or (if we really wanted to divert into the details of African history and "Rhodesia") there are more complex dynamics going on than just "whites are oppressed."

[Panzerjaeger]

Are you missing the bolded portion? They are discussing white people being discriminated against.

Nope.

Nor do I deny that white people are discriminated against and can be the victim of hate crimes. But in the context of this thread the point is fucking irrelevant or insignifcant or (if we really wanted to divert into the details of African history and "Rhodesia") there are more complex dynamics going on than just "whites are oppressed."

No what really happened is you weren't paying attention and are now covering your ass.

[The Cat-Tribe]

Of course they have. And it is wrong. As is any racism.

Of course, European Colonialism itself is at least somewhat to blame for retaliation and other consequences of the "end of European Cololnialism."

Not a great argument for "white pride."

It isn't an argument for White Pride. Are you suddenly illiterate? You keep repeating this point but no one is promoting white pride that you responded to. Also it is spelled COLONIALISM!

1. Yes, i was repeating essentially the same point. I was doing so deliberately in response to posts making the same stupid argument.

2. I am so, so, so sorry I made a typographic error. I shall flog myself later.

3. Are you saying the posts I respond to were irrelevant to the topic of this thread (as well as oversimplifying complex historical situations)?

[Tekania]

Why is there such a stigma against being PROUD to be WHITE?


And why does our societal mind now swing almost entirely towards "If you're proud to be white, you're a racist."

Discuss.

I'll tell you what, once I've met a White Pride person or persons who did not additionally espouse some racist ideologies, I'll get back to you on this topic.

[The Cat-Tribe]

Nope.

Nor do I deny that white people are discriminated against and can be the victim of hate crimes. But in the context of this thread the point is fucking irrelevant or insignifcant or (if we really wanted to divert into the details of African history and "Rhodesia") there are more complex dynamics going on than just "whites are oppressed."

No what really happened is you weren't paying attention and are now covering your ass.

Wow. Not only are you a mind reader via the internet, but you are a stunningly atrocious one that fails to follow a rather simple point.

No need to cover my ass. it was quite secure.

[Panzerjaeger]

No what really happened is you weren't paying attention and are now covering your ass.

Wow. Not only are you a mind reader via the internet, but you are a stunningly atrocious one that fails to follow a rather simple point.

No need to cover my ass. it was quite secure.

No it really isn't secure. You showed your obvious bias and ignorance when taking a response to someone who was saying that Blacks don't Oppress Whites and I responded with the example of Zimbabwe. Then you accuse my comment of supporting White Pride. Really either you are extremely stupid, weren't paying attention or were intentionally taking things out of context.

[Cobhanglica]

As a result, your anti-miscegenation crusade is positively anti-American as well. Either accept American culture (with its focus on integration and individualism, and being blind to all races, colours, genders, and creeds except for blacks jews females irish muslims mexicans)

That is not American culture; that is a liberal lie intended to take the place of American culture.

[The Cat-Tribe]

Zimbabwe would prove that point. Whites in certain parts of Africa during the end of European Colonialism have been persecuted.

Then there are the racist attacks committed on whites by blacks and Asians (Arabs or Pakistanis to the Americans), which are classed as 'random' or 'unprovoked'. Or even when the Police say that, when 60 Asians attack a pub full of Whites in Luton with hammers etc, the incident does not warrant an official statement .
This attack also fails to receive much media coverage!

Yes like some people say there is no need for White Pride because Whites are not being oppressed.

Of course, the keeping of official statistics of hate crimes in the U.S. that include crimes against whites by other "races" and the prosecution and punishment of such hate crimes completely disproves your false reality.

But I have the feeling providing links would be a waste of time.

[Tekania]

As a result, your anti-miscegenation crusade is positively anti-American as well. Either accept American culture (with its focus on integration and individualism, and being blind to all races, colours, genders, and creeds except for blacks jews females irish muslims mexicans)

That is not American culture; that is a liberal lie intended to take the place of American culture.

If by "liberal lie" you mean it is a practice which has been prevalent and a driving force since before the even the DoI was in rough draft, you would be right. That isn't what you meant though...

[Forster Keys]

Racial identity is the possession of the genes that comprise any defined race. Miscegenation leaves a child raceless. For example, if a white man mates with a black woman, the child is neither white nor black and cannot truly be part of either race.

Well shoot. Incest is the answer. After all it keeps the genes pure! Well not really.

We are designed to pass genes. It doesn't matter how or with whom.

People have intermixed for centuries. There are no pure "races."

^ This ^

Define racial identity. And then explain how one can "rob" a child of it.

Racial identity is the possession of the genes that comprise any defined race. Miscegenation leaves a child raceless. For example, if a white man mates with a black woman, the child is neither white nor black and cannot truly be part of either race.

Race is bullshit. Race does not exist. Race is a social construct to describe various physical features. Racial identity is not required to live a healthy productive life. Even if you are of mixed race it is perfectly possible for you to feel proud of all of your descendants. I'm proud of my identify with my Irish ancestors, German ancestors, English ancestors, Aboriginal ancestors and the countless other nationalities which form a part of me.

[Cobhanglica]

Race is bullshit. Race does not exist. Race is a social construct to describe various physical features. Racial identity is not required to live a healthy productive life. Even if you are of mixed race it is perfectly possible for you to feel proud of all of your descendants. I'm proud of my identify with my Irish ancestors, German ancestors, English ancestors, Aboriginal ancestors and the countless other nationalities which form a part of me.

Well that's you. I have pride only in my English and Portuguese ancestry (the English more so); all the rest is worthless in my eyes.

[Panzerjaeger]

Race is bullshit. Race does not exist. Race is a social construct to describe various physical features. Racial identity is not required to live a healthy productive life. Even if you are of mixed race it is perfectly possible for you to feel proud of all of your descendants. I'm proud of my identify with my Irish ancestors, German ancestors, English ancestors, Aboriginal ancestors and the countless other nationalities which form a part of me.

Well that's you. I have pride only in my English and Portuguese ancestry (the English more so); all the rest is worthless in my eyes.

Do you even know anything about the other side of your Heritage?

[Miklesia]

Race is bullshit. Race does not exist. Race is a social construct to describe various physical features. Racial identity is not required to live a healthy productive life. Even if you are of mixed race it is perfectly possible for you to feel proud of all of your descendants. I'm proud of my identify with my Irish ancestors, German ancestors, English ancestors, Aboriginal ancestors and the countless other nationalities which form a part of me.

Well that's you. I have pride only in my English and Portuguese ancestry (the English more so); all the rest is worthless in my eyes.

So that makes you a partially worthless person according to your logic, no?

[The Cat-Tribe]

Wow. Not only are you a mind reader via the internet, but you are a stunningly atrocious one that fails to follow a rather simple point.

No need to cover my ass. it was quite secure.

No it really isn't secure. You showed your obvious bias and ignorance when taking a response to someone who was saying that Blacks don't Oppress Whites and I responded with the example of Zimbabwe. Then you accuse my comment of supporting White Pride. Really either you are extremely stupid, weren't paying attention or were intentionally taking things out of context.

For fuck's sake. If you are done trying to insult me, perhaps you can try to understand the point I was making. You may disagree with it, but it was not the result of blind stupidity, inattention, or disingenuousness.

I have never denied and fully concede that whites can be and have been and sometime are "oppressed" or discriminated against because of "race" and that it is wrong.

Zimbambe/Rhodesia is a fucking complex situation. If you really think it can be summarized as blacks oppressing whites for no reason by taking a snapshot of recent or current events out of context, it is you showing obvious bias and ignorance.

More importantly, I was NOT denying the specifics of what you were saying so much as pointing out how they did fuck-all to advance the TOPIC OF THIS THREAD. I didn't accuse you of saying anything pro-"white pride." My post was closer to the opposite of that.

Now, care to address the SUBSTANCE of my point and explain why you agree or disagree?

[Cobhanglica]

Well that's you. I have pride only in my English and Portuguese ancestry (the English more so); all the rest is worthless in my eyes.

Do you even know anything about the other side of your Heritage?

Yes, that's why I hate it.

[Panzerjaeger]

No it really isn't secure. You showed your obvious bias and ignorance when taking a response to someone who was saying that Blacks don't Oppress Whites and I responded with the example of Zimbabwe. Then you accuse my comment of supporting White Pride. Really either you are extremely stupid, weren't paying attention or were intentionally taking things out of context.

For fuck's sake. If you are done trying to insult me, perhaps you can try to understand the point I was making. You may disagree with it, but it was not the result of blind stupidity, inattention, or disingenuousness.

I have never denied and fully concede that whites can be and have been and sometime are "oppressed" or discriminated against because of "race" and that it is wrong.

Zimbambe/Rhodesia is a fucking complex situation. If you really think it can be summarized as blacks oppressing whites for no reason by taking a snapshot of recent or current events out of context, it is you showing obvious bias and ignorance.

More importantly, I was NOT denying the specifics of what you were saying so much as pointing out how they did fuck-all to advance the TOPIC OF THIS THREAD. I didn't accuse you of saying anything pro-"white pride." My post was closer to the opposite of that.

Now, care to address the SUBSTANCE of my point and explain why you agree or disagree?

Then why didn't you just say that in the first place? I am very well aware of the complexities in Zimbabwe but I was responding to an idiotic comment about Blacks would not oppress Whites. All kinds of idiots oppress along racial lines. I agree with you and that is why I was confused by your comment and why it aggravated me as this wasn't the first time in this thread someone made an amazing leap in logic and tried to paint me on the same side as the WNs on this board.

[Ashbrande]

I personally take pride in my Armenian heritage. My great-grandfather was a genocide survivor.

[Panzerjaeger]

Do you even know anything about the other side of your Heritage?

Yes, that's why I hate it.

What is there to hate about it? Unless all you are going to respond with is Race Mixing which further cements the point you are probably completely unaware of your actual heritage.

[New Kereptica]

That is not American culture; that is a liberal lie intended to take the place of American culture.

derp de derp source?

[Avenio]

As a result, your anti-miscegenation crusade is positively anti-American as well. Either accept American culture (with its focus on integration and individualism, and being blind to all races, colours, genders, and creeds except for blacks jews females irish muslims mexicans)

That is not American culture; that is a liberal lie intended to take the place of American culture.

"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,/
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

~ Emma Lazarus - The New Colossus

Yes, quite a liberal conspiracy, eh? It's almost like this 'liberal conspiracy' goes back to when America as a nation came unto itself. Odd.

[Panzerjaeger]

That is not American culture; that is a liberal lie intended to take the place of American culture.

derp de derp source?

I am more curious what he considers "American Culture."

[Cobhanglica]

Yes, that's why I hate it.

What is there to hate about it? Unless all you are going to respond with is Race Mixing which further cements the point you are probably completely unaware of your actual heritage.

The hybrid Black/Indian/Caribbean culture that comprises my nonwhite heritage (and I use that term very loosely) thoroughly disgusts me. Everything from the styles of music practiced to the patterns of speech to the "foods" eaten to the styles of dress makes me want to vomit. I hate it because I understand it, and because it detracts from what I consider to be my superior white heritage.

[Panzerjaeger]

What is there to hate about it? Unless all you are going to respond with is Race Mixing which further cements the point you are probably completely unaware of your actual heritage.

The hybrid Black/Indian/Caribbean culture that comprises my nonwhite heritage (and I use that term very loosely) thoroughly disgusts me. Everything from the styles of music practiced to the patterns of speech to the "foods" eaten to the styles of dress makes me want to vomit. I hate it because I understand it, and because it detracts from what I consider to be my superior white heritage.

Creole and Caribbean Food is bomb. There is nothing better then some Gumbo and Creole Fritters. So really this just boils to irrational self-loathing? There is nothing wrong with any of those cultures you listed unless one is a bigot or scared of differences.