Black Pride! (Yay.) Brown Pride! (Yay.) White Pride! (Punch)

[Qenlia]

White pride has no use, because white people are not being oppressed or being made to abandon their culture (although I'm not really convinced that there is such a thing as "white culture"). A pride movement is typically to protect a minority from being oppressed. For example, most homosexuals generally do not think that being gay is something to be proud of (someone's sexuality is a part of them, but it's not something that one can change), but gay pride is a movement that fights for people that aren't straight to get recognition as equals in society.

[Cobhanglica]

And really, you haven't said anything with regard to the importance of race aside from the fact that people tend to identify with it. That doesn't make it actually important, and it certainly doesn't make it stupid to demolish race.

I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die. To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.

Your race is who you are.

[Ralkovia]

White pride has no use, because white people are not being oppressed or being made to abandon their culture (although I'm not really convinced that there is such a thing as "white culture"). A pride movement is typically to protect a minority from being oppressed. For example, most homosexuals generally do not think that being gay is something to be proud of (someone's sexuality is a part of them, but it's not something that one can change), but gay pride is a movement that fights for people that aren't straight to get recognition as equals in society.

I thought gay pride was a collection of idiots who were proud that they basically fucked nature up the ass, if nature was a big burly man in leather.

[Qenlia]

And really, you haven't said anything with regard to the importance of race aside from the fact that people tend to identify with it. That doesn't make it actually important, and it certainly doesn't make it stupid to demolish race.

I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die. To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.

Your race is who you are.

You could have been born to anyone, anywhere. Your "racial identity" (whatever you mean by that) isn't something to be proud of. Being born white is a coincidence. I'm not proud to be white because I don't see something you're born with as anything to be proud of.

[Gillock]

White pride has no use, because white people are not being oppressed or being made to abandon their culture (although I'm not really convinced that there is such a thing as "white culture"). A pride movement is typically to protect a minority from being oppressed. For example, most homosexuals generally do not think that being gay is something to be proud of (someone's sexuality is a part of them, but it's not something that one can change), but gay pride is a movement that fights for people that aren't straight to get recognition as equals in society.

You should say that to a South african farmer.

[Cobhanglica]

I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die. To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.

Your race is who you are.

You could have been born to anyone, anywhere. Your "racial identity" (whatever you mean by that) isn't something to be proud of. Being born white is a coincidence. I'm not proud to be white because I don't see something you're born with as anything to be proud of.

And I suppose you're going to give me the usual blind individualist tripe that every man is an island and should care only about his own accomplishments?

[Panzerjaeger]

You could have been born to anyone, anywhere. Your "racial identity" (whatever you mean by that) isn't something to be proud of. Being born white is a coincidence. I'm not proud to be white because I don't see something you're born with as anything to be proud of.

And I suppose you're going to give me the usual blind individualist tripe that every man is an island and should care only about his own accomplishments?

There is a difference between pride and nationalism/supremacy.

[New Kereptica]

I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die. To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.

Your race is who you are.

Once established in an individual at conception, race is immutable. The only way in which it can be destroyed is through repeated acts of indiscretion and stupidity on the part of the would-be parents of a race.

As you rightly said, you can't "take away" race. It's immutable, if ethereal.

And again, if it's so fragile, then it can hardly be called concrete.

Also brah: If race is so important because of that, then so is eye colour, the way your hair parts, and a plethora of other assorted characteristics.

[The Black Forrest]

I do not know or really care for that matter where I will go. My concern is preserving white America civilization and preventing further miscegenation (which in my opinion is a crime on par with murder).

Skin tone is not a civilization. Never was; never will be.

So robbing a child of his/her racial identity is perfectly okay?

How can you rob a child of something that does not exist?

Cultural identity? Sure that can be sad as it happens....

[Qenlia]

You could have been born to anyone, anywhere. Your "racial identity" (whatever you mean by that) isn't something to be proud of. Being born white is a coincidence. I'm not proud to be white because I don't see something you're born with as anything to be proud of.

And I suppose you're going to give me the usual blind individualist tripe that every man is an island and should care only about his own accomplishments?

Nope. "Race" shouldn't be recognised as a force for accomplishment.

Why are you proud of what your ancestors did when you played no part in it?

[L3 Communications]

White pride has no use, because white people are not being oppressed or being made to abandon their culture (although I'm not really convinced that there is such a thing as "white culture"). A pride movement is typically to protect a minority from being oppressed. For example, most homosexuals generally do not think that being gay is something to be proud of (someone's sexuality is a part of them, but it's not something that one can change), but gay pride is a movement that fights for people that aren't straight to get recognition as equals in society.

*Points at Rhodesia*

[Cobhanglica]

As you rightly said, you can't "take away" race. It's immutable, if ethereal.

It is only immutable once it has been established in the genes of a person at conception. However, if one substitutes the genes of another race, they have now created a person who does not fully belong to either race, and will enter the world without racial identity. In this sense, that person has been deprived of racial identity.

And again, if it's so fragile, then it can hardly be called concrete.

It is concrete because it cannot be changed within a living person.

[The Black Forrest]

Racial identity is the possession of the genes that comprise any defined race. Miscegenation leaves a child raceless. For example, if a white man mates with a black woman, the child is neither white nor black and cannot truly be part of either race.

Well shoot. Incest is the answer. After all it keeps the genes pure! Well not really.

We are designed to pass genes. It doesn't matter how or with whom.

People have intermixed for centuries. There are no pure "races."

[The Black Forrest]

Ooo, I should be so proud to hold those genes - which I randomly got - that only differ external appearance!

They also affect intelligence, height, physical build, and susceptibility to a number of diseases.

You need a course in genetics.

There are not guarantees.

They can increase diseases and they can increase immunities.....

[Qenlia]

As you rightly said, you can't "take away" race. It's immutable, if ethereal.

It is only immutable once it has been established in the genes of a person at conception. However, if one substitutes the genes of another race, they have now created a person who does not fully belong to either race, and will enter the world without racial identity. In this sense, that person has been deprived of racial identity.

Colour of the skin is caused by genes, but how do genetics give people a common identity? The different genetics arose as an adaptation to different climates in different areas of the world. Your genes are nothing to be proud of. You didn't choose them or do anything to deserve the set of genes you were born with. It was an accident, get over it. I'm tired of repeating myself.

[Aryan WNs]

White pride has no use, because white people are not being oppressed or being made to abandon their culture (although I'm not really convinced that there is such a thing as "white culture"). A pride movement is typically to protect a minority from being oppressed. For example, most homosexuals generally do not think that being gay is something to be proud of (someone's sexuality is a part of them, but it's not something that one can change), but gay pride is a movement that fights for people that aren't straight to get recognition as equals in society.

*Points at Rhodesia*

No that does not exist at all because it is not in the news at 6 .
In fact any white person attacked because of their skin colour is really just a victim of a 'random' or 'unprovoked attack' just like the nice man behind the news desk says.

[Cobhanglica]

I'm tired of repeating myself.

Well good, because I'm tired of listening to individualist rants.

[Qenlia]

*Points at Rhodesia*

No that does not exist at all because it is not in the news at 6 .
In fact any white person attacked because of their skin colour is really just a victim of a 'random' or 'unprovoked attack' just like the nice man behind the news desk says.

We all know black police love beating up those whites.

[The Black Forrest]

Races are identified physiologically, not genetically.

That system of classification is outdated and allows for far too many blurred boundaries. Races should be clearly defined without compromise.

You can define what does not exist.

That is your (misguided and completely incorrect) opinion. Those people who actually care to define themselves as part of a group, as most of humanity does, are harmed when their most concrete means of self definition is taken from them.

Speaking of misguided. Your so called groups tend to be cultural not by melatonin.

Saying your white means nothing......

[L3 Communications]

It is only immutable once it has been established in the genes of a person at conception. However, if one substitutes the genes of another race, they have now created a person who does not fully belong to either race, and will enter the world without racial identity. In this sense, that person has been deprived of racial identity.

Colour of the skin is caused by genes, but how do genetics give people a common identity? The different genetics arose as an adaptation to different climates in different areas of the world. Your genes are nothing to be proud of. You didn't choose them or do anything to deserve the set of genes you were born with. It was an accident, get over it. I'm tired of repeating myself.

White pride has no use, because white people are not being oppressed or being made to abandon their culture (although I'm not really convinced that there is such a thing as "white culture"). A pride movement is typically to protect a minority from being oppressed. For example, most homosexuals generally do not think that being gay is something to be proud of (someone's sexuality is a part of them, but it's not something that one can change), but gay pride is a movement that fights for people that aren't straight to get recognition as equals in society.

I am confused. Are you saying there is no such thing as white culture, yet saying there is such as thing as other "race" cultures, yet saying that genes are meaningless in the next breath?

wat?

[Panzerjaeger]

No that does not exist at all because it is not in the news at 6 .
In fact any white person attacked because of their skin colour is really just a victim of a 'random' or 'unprovoked attack' just like the nice man behind the news desk says.

We all know black police love beating up those whites.

Zimbabwe would prove that point. Whites in certain parts of Africa during the end of European Colonialism have been persecuted.

[The Black Forrest]

(Oh? Why so?)

Race can hardly be called concrete if it can be destroyed so easily.

Once established in an individual at conception, race is immutable. The only way in which it can be destroyed is through repeated acts of indiscretion and stupidity on the part of the would-be parents of a race.

[L3 Communications]

We all know black police love beating up those whites.

Zimbabwe would prove that point. Whites in certain parts of Africa during the end of European Colonialism have been persecuted.

Quite.

[The Black Forrest]

And really, you haven't said anything with regard to the importance of race aside from the fact that people tend to identify with it. That doesn't make it actually important, and it certainly doesn't make it stupid to demolish race.

I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die. To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.

Your race is who you are.

Hogwash.

I'm white. What does that mean?

[Achaea-Graecia]

As a country or a race experiences hardships of their people, or commit crimes against humanity, it changes the world view of that country or race.

Think of white people's ancestors and the Ku Klux Klan. They were remembered for the terrifying lynch mobs that ruthlessly killed black men, for no other reason than being black. Combine that with the efforts of Nazi Germany, killing somewhere between 15 and 17 million people, with an insane goal of an ethnic cleansing of the world. On top of that, think of how Africans view life of white people? Especially if they are unworldly and ignorant, many assume that white people live a life of luxury, where they haven't lifted a finger to get the comfortable life they have.

That, my friend, is what you call a bad track record.