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Postby Aryan WNs » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:32 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Qenlia wrote:We all know black police love beating up those whites.

Zimbabwe would prove that point. Whites in certain parts of Africa during the end of European Colonialism have been persecuted.

Then there are the racist attacks committed on whites by blacks and Asians (Arabs or Pakistanis to the Americans), which are classed as 'random' or 'unprovoked'. Or even when the Police say that, when 60 Asians attack a pub full of Whites in Luton with hammers etc, the incident does not warrant an official statement :eyebrow: .
This attack also fails to receive much media coverage!

Yes like some people say there is no need for White Pride because Whites are not being oppressed.

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Postby Rarth » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:33 pm

Vectrova wrote:
Cobhanglica wrote:
So beating all the other races at everything is nothing to be proud of?

And besides, that's not the point of white pride.


That is what you are supporting when you say, "White pride!"

You are saying, "Fuck yeah, genocide!"

You are saying, "Fuck yeah, colonize these bastards!"

You are saying, "Fuck yeah, destroy everything we can't profit from!"

That is something to be disgusted by, not proud of.


So you are racist toward white people I get it. I hate bigots. Saying your proud to have been born a certain way is stupid, saying your proud of the way people OF your race have managed to live through hard ship, their accomplishments, their culture is not.Yes you played no part in it but you are glad to see that humanity has good. I am proud of humanity in general I know so strange, but recently it has been hard as I watch us kill each other over books,dirt,black goo,and paper. Yes it has always been this way but we are more educated now and we ALL need to be progressive,forgive and move on to brighter futures through sustainability.
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Postby Aryan WNs » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:38 pm

Achaea-Graecia wrote:As a country or a race experiences hardships of their people, or commit crimes against humanity, it changes the world view of that country or race.

Think of white people's ancestors and the Ku Klux Klan. They were remembered for the terrifying lynch mobs that ruthlessly killed black men, for no other reason than being black. Combine that with the efforts of Nazi Germany, killing somewhere between 15 and 17 million people, with an insane goal of an ethnic cleansing of the world. On top of that, think of how Africans view life of white people? Especially if they are unworldly and ignorant, many assume that white people live a life of luxury, where they haven't lifted a finger to get the comfortable life they have.

That, my friend, is what you call a bad track record.

Most of the Black men were lynched because they raped or were suspected of rapping a girl, or killing a man/woman.
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Postby Aelosia » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:03 pm

Aryan WNs wrote:
Achaea-Graecia wrote:As a country or a race experiences hardships of their people, or commit crimes against humanity, it changes the world view of that country or race.

Think of white people's ancestors and the Ku Klux Klan. They were remembered for the terrifying lynch mobs that ruthlessly killed black men, for no other reason than being black. Combine that with the efforts of Nazi Germany, killing somewhere between 15 and 17 million people, with an insane goal of an ethnic cleansing of the world. On top of that, think of how Africans view life of white people? Especially if they are unworldly and ignorant, many assume that white people live a life of luxury, where they haven't lifted a finger to get the comfortable life they have.

That, my friend, is what you call a bad track record.

Most of the Black men were lynched because they raped or were suspected of rapping a girl, or killing a man/woman.
15 and 17 million people ethnically cleansed by the Nazi Party? Source please.
Africans, comprise of different races, Africa is a continent.


Source for the holocaust? Really?

And yeah, for sure all lynched blacks were rapists, really. Pleeease.


Aryan WNs wrote:15 and 17 million people ethnically cleansed by the Nazi Party? Source please.


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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:04 pm

Cobhanglica wrote:It is only immutable once it has been established in the genes of a person at conception. However, if one substitutes the genes of another race, they have now created a person who does not fully belong to either race, and will enter the world without racial identity. In this sense, that person has been deprived of racial identity.


Are you seriously not understanding the spectrum comments? Go do a Punnett Square with the thousands of genes which express the set of traits we refer to as "race" and it will be quite clear that nobody ever fully belongs to a race.

And again, no. You cannot deprive someone of something if they never had it in the first place.

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Which means, again, that a living person cannot be deprived of it.
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:05 pm

Aryan WNs wrote:Most of the Black men were lynched because they raped or were suspected of rapping a girl, or killing a man/woman.


And where do you think the balance falls, on raping or on merely being suspected of rape?
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Postby Achaea-Graecia » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:07 pm

Aryan WNs wrote:
Achaea-Graecia wrote:As a country or a race experiences hardships of their people, or commit crimes against humanity, it changes the world view of that country or race.

Think of white people's ancestors and the Ku Klux Klan. They were remembered for the terrifying lynch mobs that ruthlessly killed black men, for no other reason than being black. Combine that with the efforts of Nazi Germany, killing somewhere between 15 and 17 million people, with an insane goal of an ethnic cleansing of the world. On top of that, think of how Africans view life of white people? Especially if they are unworldly and ignorant, many assume that white people live a life of luxury, where they haven't lifted a finger to get the comfortable life they have.

That, my friend, is what you call a bad track record.

Most of the Black men were lynched because they raped or were suspected of rapping a girl, or killing a man/woman.
15 and 17 million people ethnically cleansed by the Nazi Party? Source please.
Africans, comprise of different races, Africa is a continent.

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Aryan WNs wrote:15 and 17 million people ethnically cleansed by the Nazi Party? Source please.

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Postby Vault 1 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:25 pm

The Cat-Tribe wrote:[snip]

BTW, I asked myself, "What if I woke up as a member of a different race?". I think I would be somewhat happy, I mean if it was the right race.
I would still demand compensation if there was someone to demand it from, but all I'd demand is them to pay for a free dong enlargement procedure to compensate for loss of congress capability (or whatever it's called in legalese).
Actually I think many whites would be happy to wake up black, for that if nothing else.

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Postby Vojvodina-Nihon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:30 pm

Cobhanglica wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:And really, you haven't said anything with regard to the importance of race aside from the fact that people tend to identify with it. That doesn't make it actually important, and it certainly doesn't make it stupid to demolish race.


I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die. To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.

Your race is who you are.

Indeed. And my race is who I am: American. Not European, Semitic, Latino or whatever.

I am a person of American origin going back at least two generations -- never cared to find out where they came to America from. American culture is my culture. And what is American culture? It encompasses Germanic language, British measurements, Roman and Semitic religion, Black music, Latin food, and dozens more. And overlying all these is an individualist spirit all its own, a quality that I dare say is culturally unique enough to lend America its own designation. America is built on freedom, not authority; plurality, not unity. It'll never be anything but a hodgepodge of inferior cultures if you can't accept it as it is. You can't claim to support American culture whilst saying things like "It's great, but can we end all immigration and deport everyone who doesn't sleep with whom I tell them to?"

As a result, your anti-miscegenation crusade is positively anti-American as well. Either accept American culture (with its focus on integration and individualism, and being blind to all races, colours, genders, and creeds except for blacks jews females irish muslims mexicans), or this may not be the best place for you.

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Postby Geniasis » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:32 pm

Cobhanglica wrote:I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die.


...When people accuse you of making a stupid argument, you usually don't defend yourself by correcting them that you actually made one even worse.

To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.


Good thing it's immutable and stuck with you then, right? I mean, if you could take it then it would probably be kinda... mutable.

Your race is who you are.


No it isn't. My personality and passions are who I am.
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Postby Bottle » Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:07 pm

Geniasis wrote:
Cobhanglica wrote:I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die.


...When people accuse you of making a stupid argument, you usually don't defend yourself by correcting them that you actually made one even worse.

To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.


Good thing it's immutable and stuck with you then, right? I mean, if you could take it then it would probably be kinda... mutable.

Your race is who you are.


No it isn't. My personality and passions are who I am.

Good points.

What's particularly funny is that my "race" is actually Semitic, by about 3/4, yet if you saw me you'd think I was a typical WASP kid. By blood, I'm a Hungarian Jew. But I will bet any sum of money you want that I would be welcomed on any Aryan or White Nationalist forum, thanks to my pale skin, blue eyes, and blond hair. I
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Postby Norstal » Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:18 pm

Cobhanglica wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:And really, you haven't said anything with regard to the importance of race aside from the fact that people tend to identify with it. That doesn't make it actually important, and it certainly doesn't make it stupid to demolish race.


I didn't just say that people "tend to identify with it", I said that race is the single most important and concrete aspect of a person's identity. You can change your faith, your ideals, and your place of residence, but you are born with your race and stuck with it until the day you die. To take away this core aspect of identity from a person is one of the most terrible crimes one can commit aside from killing that person outright.

Your race is who you are.

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Postby Offenheim » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:26 pm

Didn't Cat-Tribe end this thread already?
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Postby Achaea-Graecia » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:29 pm

Aelosia wrote:
Aryan WNs wrote:15 and 17 million people ethnically cleansed by the Nazi Party? Source please.


Please, someone sig this. It's almost too good. :rofl:

Sig-worthy indeed.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:30 pm

Offenheim wrote:Didn't Cat-Tribe end this thread already?


Nah. He has been trashed a few times. His new tactic is to ignore.......
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Postby Jesselbania » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:50 pm

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Jesselbania wrote:White man was an asshole and owned black people. Black people just want some rights. I dont think it's right to be 'proud' of any race, They try to say we are the same, but are proud to be different. I also don't think what you are saying is right...

If you think that it was the Europeans that enslaved your people watch all parts of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrouT2zNvos
If you would rather watch a Black man speak then here he is, talking about the same subject http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glToO4BYn38

why does everyone think i'm black now? D:

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Postby Geniasis » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:51 pm

Jesselbania wrote:
Aryan WNs wrote:If you think that it was the Europeans that enslaved your people watch all parts of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrouT2zNvos
If you would rather watch a Black man speak then here he is, talking about the same subject http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glToO4BYn38

why does everyone think i'm black now? D:


Because no white person would dare fight a White Nationalist.

Or something, I've stopped trying to figure out how the logic works since the fourth stroke.
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Postby Jesselbania » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:54 pm

Geniasis wrote:
Jesselbania wrote:why does everyone think i'm black now? D:


Because no white person would dare fight a White Nationalist.

Or something, I've stopped trying to figure out how the logic works since the fourth stroke.

Sorry, uh, what's the 'fourth stroke'? :eyebrow:

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Postby The Cat-Tribe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:56 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Qenlia wrote:White pride has no use, because white people are not being oppressed or being made to abandon their culture (although I'm not really convinced that there is such a thing as "white culture"). A pride movement is typically to protect a minority from being oppressed. For example, most homosexuals generally do not think that being gay is something to be proud of (someone's sexuality is a part of them, but it's not something that one can change), but gay pride is a movement that fights for people that aren't straight to get recognition as equals in society.


*Points at Rhodesia*


What makes you think "Rhodesia" is a good example of why "white pride" is a good thing?
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Postby Jesselbania » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:56 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Jesselbania wrote:White man was an asshole and owned black people. Black people just want some rights. I dont think it's right to be 'proud' of any race, They try to say we are the same, but are proud to be different. I also don't think what you are saying is right...

Not all white people owned slaves...racism shows its head all over this thread it is excellent.

But, not all minorities are lazy, as he portrays.

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Postby The Cat-Tribe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:57 pm

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Qenlia wrote:White pride has no use, because white people are not being oppressed or being made to abandon their culture (although I'm not really convinced that there is such a thing as "white culture"). A pride movement is typically to protect a minority from being oppressed. For example, most homosexuals generally do not think that being gay is something to be proud of (someone's sexuality is a part of them, but it's not something that one can change), but gay pride is a movement that fights for people that aren't straight to get recognition as equals in society.


You should say that to a South african farmer.


What about the history of South Africa teaches us that "white pride" is a good thing?
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:58 pm

Jesselbania wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Not all white people owned slaves...racism shows its head all over this thread it is excellent.

But, not all minorities are lazy, as he portrays.

Obviously but fighting racism with racism is stupid.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:59 pm

The Cat-Tribe wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
*Points at Rhodesia*


What makes you think "Rhodesia" is a good example of why "white pride" is a good thing?

Are you missing the bolded portion? They are discussing white people being discriminated against. :palm:
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Postby Ashbrande » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:00 pm

No point being proud of your skin color if you don't even get to choose.
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Postby The Cat-Tribe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:02 pm

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Qenlia wrote:We all know black police love beating up those whites.

Zimbabwe would prove that point. Whites in certain parts of Africa during the end of European Colonialism have been persecuted.


Of course they have. And it is wrong. As is any racism.

Of course, European Colonialism itself is at least somewhat to blame for retaliation and other consequences of the "end of European Cololnialism."

Not a great argument for "white pride."
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