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Luxstria
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Postby Luxstria » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:22 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Luxstria wrote:I believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.

FYI:I didn't take that from wikipedia, I wrote that on that article on wikipedia.

That still doesn't answer any of my questions.

I know, I was stating what I believe.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:23 pm

Luxstria wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:That still doesn't answer any of my questions.

I know, I was stating what I believe.

Again copy pasting what someone else wrote about fascism does not make you a fascist. So either answer my questions or stop trolling.
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Postby Luxstria » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:24 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Luxstria wrote:I know, I was stating what I believe.

Again copy pasting what someone else wrote about fascism does not make you a fascist. So either answer my questions or stop trolling.

I'm not copy pasting, I stated what I believe.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:25 pm

Luxstria wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Again copy pasting what someone else wrote about fascism does not make you a fascist. So either answer my questions or stop trolling.

I'm not copy pasting, I stated what I believe.

While avoiding any real questions about what would determine whether you are a fascist or not. Again answer what me and others have asked then we can determine whether you are being serious at this point though it seems extremely fake.
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Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"

New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

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Postby Luxstria » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:29 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Luxstria wrote:I'm not copy pasting, I stated what I believe.

While avoiding any real questions about what would determine whether you are a fascist or not. Again answer what me and others have asked then we can determine whether you are being serious at this point though it seems extremely fake.

I am being serious, restate your questions.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:31 pm

Luxstria wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:While avoiding any real questions about what would determine whether you are a fascist or not. Again answer what me and others have asked then we can determine whether you are being serious at this point though it seems extremely fake.

I am being serious, restate your questions.

You already know what the questions are and if you don't I assume you can at least read.
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New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

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Postby Urstania » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:32 pm

Hey Panzerjaeger.
This thread seems to be people going around in circles and getting no where. so I would like to try something different.

Im an anarchist that believe in complete liberty and freedom and the idea of nations and borders to be abolished as we are all ONE speices inhabiting ONE planet together.

I also believe in treating others how I would like to be treated so basically I dont impose my will on another because I dont want them to impose their will on me. SO I ask is it possable for me to co-exist with a fascist and hypothetically if I was a citizen in your country what would become of me?

What would happen to this internet forum? would it be shut down?
Would I even be allowed internet access?
Would I be permitted to emmigrate and flee the country if I wanted
Would I be permitted to speak to foriegners?
Would I be spied on by some security apparatus?
would I have the freedom demonstrate for social issues such as free elections, free media and equality and social justice
Could I paint and write what ever I liked and display artistic work in public or would I be censored and cultural life styfiled by state oversight
Would the justice system be lacking any human compassion and empathy with harsh penalties and the death penalty etc

Basically what would life be like for me living in a nation run on YOUR ideals?

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Postby Luxstria » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:33 pm

Just repost your freaking question.....

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Postby Luxstria » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:38 pm

Urstania wrote:Hey Panzerjaeger.
This thread seems to be people going around in circles and getting no where. so I would like to try something different.

Im an anarchist that believe in complete liberty and freedom and the idea of nations and borders to be abolished as we are all ONE speices inhabiting ONE planet together.

I also believe in treating others how I would like to be treated so basically I dont impose my will on another because I dont want them to impose their will on me. SO I ask is it possable for me to co-exist with a fascist and hypothetically if I was a citizen in your country what would become of me?

What would happen to this internet forum? would it be shut down?
Would I even be allowed internet access?
Would I be permitted to emmigrate and flee the country if I wanted
Would I be permitted to speak to foriegners?
Would I be spied on by some security apparatus?
would I have the freedom demonstrate for social issues such as free elections, free media and equality and social justice
Could I paint and write what ever I liked and display artistic work in public or would I be censored and cultural life styfiled by state oversight
Would the justice system be lacking any human compassion and empathy with harsh penalties and the death penalty etc

Basically what would life be like for me living in a nation run on YOUR ideals?

Who are you asking to answer those questions?

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Postby Urstania » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:39 pm

Anybody is free to answer, they dont even have to be fascist

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Postby Luxstria » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:42 pm

Urstania wrote:Anybody is free to answer, they dont even have to be fascist

I'll answer tomorrow, I've got to go to bed.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:44 pm

Urstania wrote:Hey Panzerjaeger.
This thread seems to be people going around in circles and getting no where. so I would like to try something different.

Im an anarchist that believe in complete liberty and freedom and the idea of nations and borders to be abolished as we are all ONE speices inhabiting ONE planet together.

I also believe in treating others how I would like to be treated so basically I dont impose my will on another because I dont want them to impose their will on me. SO I ask is it possable for me to co-exist with a fascist and hypothetically if I was a citizen in your country what would become of me?

What would happen to this internet forum? would it be shut down?
Would I even be allowed internet access?
Would I be permitted to emmigrate and flee the country if I wanted
Would I be permitted to speak to foriegners?
Would I be spied on by some security apparatus?
would I have the freedom demonstrate for social issues such as free elections, free media and equality and social justice
Could I paint and write what ever I liked and display artistic work in public or would I be censored and cultural life styfiled by state oversight
Would the justice system be lacking any human compassion and empathy with harsh penalties and the death penalty etc


Basically what would life be like for me living in a nation run on YOUR ideals?

Ok something I can answer and respond to then. What would happen to you? Nothing you live your life and do not cause any trouble then I wouldn't see why you should be bothered. I typically have a fairly positive view of Modern Anarchists because they just want to be left alone they don't typically seek to overthrow the order or State. So basically nothing would change in regards to you. I have no problem cohabiting with people with differing views nor do I see why they couldn't reside within the State as long as they obey the law.

I see no reason to censor the internet or to shut down websites like this. I would shut down sites that encouraged ethnic or political violence though. Ideas shouldn't be smashed but violent behavior and conspiracies should be. I would support monitoring the internet but outright censorship? No it doesn't really work in this Modern Era and it seems counter-productive.

Would you be able to leave the country? Absolutely in fact I favor the idea of even funding people to leave with a small stipend if they want and arranging with other Foreign Offices to take you in and make sure you have a smooth transition. I understand not everyone would want to live in a Fascist State and thus figure you should allow them to leave and even help them out. Better to let them leave with at least a somewhat good relation then force them out bitter and angry.

Speak to foreigners? Depends on the person I guess. Political Radicals who demand the overthrow of the State? No. Terrorists? No. Hans from Germany or Manos from Greece? Sure. Good relations with other nations is important to the State I see little to gain from keeping people from interacting with others. Basically No Harm, No Foul is my approach.

Spied on? You would probably be monitored until a threat assessment could be made. Then likely you wouldn't be bothered again unless something changed.

Demonstrate? Sure you can't really stop that anyways. If it remains peaceful it will be allowed but once it steps out of bounds it will be crushed without mercy and anyone involved will no longer be allowed to.

The Arts should be encouraged and in an Era where the arts are dwindling I find censorship to be unnecessary. We should be encouraging people to paint and write symphonies not discouraging creativity. The idea of Fascism is to create the New Man the Fascist who accepts life and lives it to the fullest.

The Justice System will maintain the Death Penalty under a Fascist State and will become more flexible in order to combat Organized Crime, Corruption and Street Violence/Gangs. A strong Judiciary is necessary in order to make sure the Fascist State can be kept in check and corruption can be purged.
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Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!

Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"

New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

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Postby Forster Keys » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:44 pm

Aryan Republics of Ame wrote:
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I think this is right. For a crazy white nationalist you making an unusual amount of sense... :eyebrow:

I have to make sense. It's the only way I'm going to break the stereotype that WNists are all crazy, uneducated idiots.


Oh, I wouldn't call it a stereotype... :p
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Postby Forster Keys » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:46 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Luxstria wrote:Stop spamming with questions and shit, I support Fascism, do you have to question what I support? No, no you don't.

I already asked you several questions which you have refused to answer which further cements you aren't a fascist but just play acting as one.


He still hasn't told me what he smells like.... :(
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:47 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:I already asked you several questions which you have refused to answer which further cements you aren't a fascist but just play acting as one.


He still hasn't told me what he smells like.... :(

On his puppet or his main whichever it claims he is a Neo-Con. I think he is just trolling and doesn't actually have an answer for anyone.
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Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!

Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"

New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

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Postby Apollonesia » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:48 pm

Not a stereotype. There is this thing called "the truth..." No?

Regarding White Nationalists.
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Postby Forster Keys » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:51 pm

Apollonesia wrote:Not a stereotype. There is this thing called "the truth..." No?

Regarding White Nationalists.


Truth? White Nationalism? These two things do not mix.
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Postby Forster Keys » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:52 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
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He still hasn't told me what he smells like.... :(

On his puppet or his main whichever it claims he is a Neo-Con. I think he is just trolling and doesn't actually have an answer for anyone.


Yeah, maybe. How did you find out his puppet?
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:54 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:On his puppet or his main whichever it claims he is a Neo-Con. I think he is just trolling and doesn't actually have an answer for anyone.


Yeah, maybe. How did you find out his puppet?

He pic spammed with it in this thread and made a snarky comment in Moderation.
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Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!

Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"

New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

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Postby Apollonesia » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:59 pm

The threads are safe for now. He said he went to bed. "Sigh of relief"
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Postby Genivar » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:40 am

This might make me unpopular but I don't think fascism failed. Nazi Germany was militarily defeated, it did not collapse on itself like the Soviet Union did. If the Germans managed to hold the line on D-Day, Fascism might still be around today.
And believe me, as a socialist it kills me to say this.
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Postby New Korongo » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:42 am

Totalitarian Nationalisim?

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Postby New Korongo » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:42 am

Genivar wrote:This might make me unpopular but I don't think fascism failed. Nazi Germany was militarily defeated, it did not collapse on itself like the Soviet Union did. If the Germans managed to hold the line on D-Day, Fascism might still be around today.
And believe me, as a socialist it kills me to say this.


Did you miss the whole, soviet break up thing in 91
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:47 am

New Korongo wrote:
Genivar wrote:This might make me unpopular but I don't think fascism failed. Nazi Germany was militarily defeated, it did not collapse on itself like the Soviet Union did. If the Germans managed to hold the line on D-Day, Fascism might still be around today.
And believe me, as a socialist it kills me to say this.


Did you miss the whole, soviet break up thing in 91

O.o
I'd guess not...
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Postby Genivar » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:52 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
New Korongo wrote:
Did you miss the whole, soviet break up thing in 91

O.o
I'd guess not...


Thank you.
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I am a far-left social libertarian.
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