**For those against immigration to America**

[Sibirsky]

How? By going by how Capitalism has always operated?

No, by willfully hurting the nation to make a quick buck. He makes us all look like a bunch of greedy pigs.

It does not hurt the nation. It helps the nation.

[Sibirsky]

That is essentially capitalism it is profit driven.

Profit driven =/= no conscience.

You are the one with no conscience. You want to deny visas to good, hard working people. I want to give them visas and a legal way to work here. That goes to all workers, be it uneducated migrant workers from Latin America, or highly educated workers from India.

[Panzerjaeger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kcprUAq6YQ
Indeed, National Security must be outsourced.

[Panzerjaeger]

Profit driven =/= no conscience.

You are the one with no conscience. You want to deny visas to good, hard working people. I want to give them visas and a legal way to work here. That goes to all workers, be it uneducated migrant workers from Latin America, or highly educated workers from India.

Once they are legal they are going to be jobless.

[Cobhanglica]

Profit driven =/= no conscience.

You are the one with no conscience. You want to deny visas to good, hard working people. I want to give them visas and a legal way to work here. That goes to all workers, be it uneducated migrant workers from Latin America, or highly educated workers from India.

You're the one with no conscience. You place cheap labor over the well-being and stability of your nation.

[Hamilay]

Sibirsky, you give capitalism a bad name.

No I'm pretty sure 'capitalists' who decide to ignore a free (labour) market when it produces results they personally disagree with give capitalism a bad name.

[Numerika]

Yeah, I'm sure those doctors from India are just itching to live in a dump and have a ton of kids to spray paint walls en masse.

You say I'm lying about a visa not being a green card? Stop embarrassing yourself.

I didn't say anything about visas or green cards.

Then you didn't say anything about anything. Your comment was a joke.

[Sibirsky]

You are the one with no conscience. You want to deny visas to good, hard working people. I want to give them visas and a legal way to work here. That goes to all workers, be it uneducated migrant workers from Latin America, or highly educated workers from India.

Once they are legal they are going to be jobless.

That's not true. The jobs exist. They take the jobs. All I'm saying is we should give them visas to come in and do the jobs legally. The jobs themselves are not required to pay minimum wage as they are exempt.

[Cobhanglica]

Once they are legal they are going to be jobless.

That's not true. The jobs exist. They take the jobs. All I'm saying is we should give them visas to come in and do the jobs legally. The jobs themselves are not required to pay minimum wage as they are exempt.

So now we can drive down wages and encourage even MORE Third World peasants to come here?

[Sibirsky]

You are the one with no conscience. You want to deny visas to good, hard working people. I want to give them visas and a legal way to work here. That goes to all workers, be it uneducated migrant workers from Latin America, or highly educated workers from India.

You're the one with no conscience. You place cheap labor over the well-being and stability of your nation.

It has nothing to do with the well being or stability of the nation.

[Panzerjaeger]

You're the one with no conscience. You place cheap labor over the well-being and stability of your nation.

It has nothing to do with the well being or stability of the nation.

It is only about Profits with Capitalists the State be damned.

[Numerika]

Damn the one line rhetoric tripe. I'm out.

(and yeah, I know, see how you like it)

[Cobhanglica]

It has nothing to do with the well being or stability of the nation.

It is only about Profits with Capitalists the State be damned.

Not necessarily. Some of us are reasonable people who can see past our wallets.

[Sibirsky]

That's not true. The jobs exist. They take the jobs. All I'm saying is we should give them visas to come in and do the jobs legally. The jobs themselves are not required to pay minimum wage as they are exempt.

So now we can drive down wages and encourage even MORE Third World peasants to come here?

It does not drive wages down. It reduces illegal immigration. It happened in the 50s. Illegal immigration slowed to a trickle. Although the program had many flaws, there is a model to work from. It works, it has worked in the past.

I support letting all the needed workers in. Be it an uneducated farm worker, or a highly skilled computer programmer.

[Sibirsky]

It has nothing to do with the well being or stability of the nation.

It is only about Profits with Capitalists the State be damned.

It helps the state.

[Sibirsky]

Damn the one line rhetoric tripe. I'm out.

(and yeah, I know, see how you like it)

Good riddance.

[Sibirsky]

It is only about Profits with Capitalists the State be damned.

Not necessarily. Some of us are reasonable people who can see past our wallets.

So now we can drive down wages and encourage even MORE Third World peasants to come here?

Yeah that's very reasonable.

[Cobhanglica]

So now we can drive down wages and encourage even MORE Third World peasants to come here?

It does not drive wages down. It reduces illegal immigration. It happened in the 50s. Illegal immigration slowed to a trickle. Although the program had many flaws, there is a model to work from. It works, it has worked in the past.

I support letting all the needed workers in. Be it an uneducated farm worker, or a highly skilled computer programmer.

And I guess Operation Wetback and the lack of the established laziness on the part of the federal government that exists today had nothing to do with the low illegal immigration of the 50s? We had even STRICTER quotas then.

[Newest Accord]

We're not against immigration, we're against ILLEGAL immigration.

We're not against immigration; we're against non-white immigration.
Don't the non-whites have countries of their own?
How about fixing your own problems instead of re-creating them here for us to deal with?
Our home is not yours.
If your government is a problem; remove your government.
Don't expect a single tear, drop of blood or sweat, or scrap of bread from us. Fight for your own peoples' country; don't fight us for ours, we will defend it.

All those that support the principle of pure profit are enslaving those they employ and no man should be slave to another. This is why there is non-white immigration; to prop up the Corporations that buy the government with campaign money. The pandering to special interest and minority groups for votes is common place. We will never support the current government system and will bring it down. 14 words.

[Katganistan]

Profit driven =/= no conscience.

You are the one with no conscience. You want to deny visas to good, hard working people. I want to give them visas and a legal way to work here. That goes to all workers, be it uneducated migrant workers from Latin America, or highly educated workers from India.

I reiterate: this is the way to go. If you're here with approval, mazel tov!

[Cobhanglica]

You are the one with no conscience. You want to deny visas to good, hard working people. I want to give them visas and a legal way to work here. That goes to all workers, be it uneducated migrant workers from Latin America, or highly educated workers from India.

I reiterate: this is the way to go. If you're here with approval, mazel tov!

BOO! HISS! BOO!

[Ralkovia]

This worked so well for France

France is like a perfect example of a country that needs to get its shit together, though.

Come on, its France, they can't even get their shit together to fight one fucking war without losing.

[Sibirsky]

It does not drive wages down. It reduces illegal immigration. It happened in the 50s. Illegal immigration slowed to a trickle. Although the program had many flaws, there is a model to work from. It works, it has worked in the past.

I support letting all the needed workers in. Be it an uneducated farm worker, or a highly skilled computer programmer.

And I guess Operation Wetback and the lack of the established laziness on the part of the federal government that exists today had nothing to do with the low illegal immigration of the 50s? We had even STRICTER quotas then.

Operation Wetback was after the program I was referring to. During the program, there was little illegal immigration.

[Cobhanglica]

And I guess Operation Wetback and the lack of the established laziness on the part of the federal government that exists today had nothing to do with the low illegal immigration of the 50s? We had even STRICTER quotas then.

Operation Wetback was after the program I was referring to. During the program, there was little illegal immigration.

Wait, are you talking about the bracero program in WWII?

[Newest Accord]

Profit driven =/= no conscience.

You are the one with no conscience. You want to deny visas to good, hard working people. I want to give them visas and a legal way to work here. That goes to all workers, be it uneducated migrant workers from Latin America, or highly educated workers from India.

You're under the impression the Government doesn't profit as the highest form of corporate greed, and benefits from large numbers of employed migrants working at or spending their money in Big Business like Walmart. I was asked if I hate people. I hate people that suppress the natural order. I hate people that promote the absolute pursuit of profit margin at the expense of others. I also hate Marxist sheep that would see us all equally poor and stupid. I love our people and will not them fall prey to either.

Small family based businesses, and trade unions are the only way to prevent corporate slavery. We, as National Socialists, know this is the only way. Between the choice of Capitalist Slavery and Communist Slavery; we are the third choice.