Actual Neo-Nazis around hither parts?

[The Parkus Empire]

Ol' Cobby isn't a Neo-Nazi, but his political philosophy is fairly similar.

[GeneralHaNor]

SNIP

eww an American

I know, we are disgusting, what with our concepts of liberty and equality and all that nonsense

[Desperate Measures]

There are no neo-nazis in my nether parts. The doctor gave me a cream for that.

[Ochry]

I actually don't like my parents, but that's not relevant

Humor aside, If Obama were white, he'd have the skin heads wearing brown shirts for him in no time.

Care to substantiate that by pointing out what parts of his program fascists would love?

In before rubbish about an all-consuming state

Please go ahead.

P.S. You don't imagine that Republicans stand for freedom, do you?

[GeneralHaNor]

I know, we are disgusting, what with our concepts of liberty and equality and all that nonsense

That's disgusting.

You ought to be ashamed of yourselves, what with your boastfulness.

srsly apparently 'liberty and equality' = 'fail schooling' in your country, tbh :\

Schools are failing, I won't contest that
I blame the public system
Private Schools are top notch here.

The whole point of the Revolution is that it is always ongoing, we aren't "done" by any means, we are always building a better society.
But that's a distraction from this thread

Back to Neo-Nazi's and making fun of them.

[Hamilay]

Statements on the Internet on what the Nazis invented/ contributed to the modern world

Nazis invented Nerve gasses Sarin and Tabun.

lol thats great

'Things which were invented in Nazi Germany' has nothing to do with 'things the Nazis invented'. You may as well say that the Republican Party invented the iPod.

[Dystopia420]

That's disgusting.

You ought to be ashamed of yourselves, what with your boastfulness.

srsly apparently 'liberty and equality' = 'fail schooling' in your country, tbh :\

Schools are failing, I won't contest that
I blame the public system
Private Schools are top notch here.

The whole point of the Revolution is that it is always ongoing, we aren't "done" by any means, we are always building a better society.
But that's a distraction from this thread

Back to Neo-Nazi's and making fun of them.

How many nazi's does it take to change a lightbulb?
(I don't actually have an answer for this joke so go ahead an wow me with your funny answers)

[GeneralHaNor]

Care to substantiate that by pointing out what parts of his program fascists would love?

In before rubbish about an all-consuming state

Please go ahead.

P.S. You don't imagine that Republicans stand for freedom, do you?

Nope, I imagine that Anarchists stand for Freedom
Republicans stand for Corporatism ( a form of Fascism)
And Democrats stand for National Socialism ( a form of Fascism we link to Nazism)

Basically just pick your brand of oppression and enjoy.

[Dystopia420]

Statements on the Internet on what the Nazis invented/ contributed to the modern world

Nazis invented Nerve gasses Sarin and Tabun.

lol thats great

'Things which were invented in Nazi Germany' has nothing to do with 'things the Nazis invented'. You may as well say that the Republican Party invented the iPod.

My point isn't what Hitler invented. It was how Hitler and the Nazi's actually improved the country an the conditions uner which the people were before they took power. In effect a "how was germany improved by the nazi party?" type of thing

[The Parkus Empire]

You'd be surprised how many Platform Agenda Points the Democrats share with "National Socialism" is practically a sister ideology

No, it isn't.

This Godwin shit is old as fuck.

No, Democrats do not promote militarism. No, Democrats do not promote racial superiority. No, Democrats do promote putting people to death for speaking against the government.

No wall can possibly hard enough for my head to bang against at this moment.

[GeneralHaNor]

How many nazi's does it take to change a lightbulb?
(I don't actually have an answer for this joke so go ahead an wow me with your funny answers)

1 to change the bulb
3 to kill the Jew who's company built it

[Dystopia420]

I'm finding it so weird to be the Devil's advocate for such a politically incorrect stance on things.

[GeneralHaNor]

You'd be surprised how many Platform Agenda Points the Democrats share with "National Socialism" is practically a sister ideology

No, it isn't.

This Godwin shit is old as fuck.

No, Democrats do not promote militarism. No, Democrats do not promote racial superiority. No, Democrats do promote putting people to death for speaking against the government.

No wall can possibly hard enough for my head to bang against at this moment.

You lack humor
While you banging your head against that wall, try not to split your melon open, it might get messy

[The Parkus Empire]

Nope, I imagine that Anarchists stand for Freedom
Republicans stand for Corporatism ( a form of Fascism)
And Democrats stand for National Socialism ( a form of Fascism we link to Nazism)

Basically just pick your brand of oppression and enjoy.

Fascism as a political ideology was not conceived of until several decades after the Republicans and the Democrats split from their previously single party. Government does not, of itself, equal Fascism. Jesus titty-fucking Christ.

[Hamilay]

lol thats great

'Things which were invented in Nazi Germany' has nothing to do with 'things the Nazis invented'. You may as well say that the Republican Party invented the iPod.

My point isn't what Hitler invented. It was how Hitler and the Nazi's actually improved the country an the conditions uner which the people were before they took power. In effect a "how was germany improved by the nazi party?" type of thing

Reeling off a list of things which were invented in Nazi Germany doesn't prove anything about the effectiveness of Nazi policies (unless you were somehow claiming that the Nazis invented them). The only thing it proves is that a nation which was already a scientific and industry leader continued to invent some things under the Nazis, which is fairly obvious and would only have not happened if the Nazis were even more incompetent. The Nazis only caused trouble for German science by booting out Jewish and anti-Nazi scientists and stifling free discussion.

[GeneralHaNor]

Nope, I imagine that Anarchists stand for Freedom
Republicans stand for Corporatism ( a form of Fascism)
And Democrats stand for National Socialism ( a form of Fascism we link to Nazism)

Basically just pick your brand of oppression and enjoy.

Fascism as a political ideology was not conceived of until several decades after the Republicans and the Democrats split from their previously single party.

Doesn't mean they haven't drifted into it, or that there are no similiarites

Government does not, of itself, equal Fascism. Jesus titty-fucking Christ.

Opinion, my ideology states that Statism, while not being equal to fascism, is similarly oppressive in all forms. having the effect of being "just as bad" and "just as abhorrent"

Disagree if you must, I enjoy your shocked reaction at the incredulous nature of my claims

[Vandengaarde]

That's disgusting.

You ought to be ashamed of yourselves, what with your boastfulness.

srsly apparently 'liberty and equality' = 'fail schooling' in your country, tbh :\

Schools are failing, I won't contest that
I blame the public system
Private Schools are top notch here.

Because public schools exist, and therefore, they barely have to afford any students. If every school was private, you would have

a. Higher illiteracy due to people not being able to afford school
b. Lower quality private schools due to more equipment and room being needed in the schools
c. Rich people getting ahead in society once again.

Therefore, I believe private schools should be abolished.

[Dystopia420]

My point isn't what Hitler invented. It was how Hitler and the Nazi's actually improved the country an the conditions uner which the people were before they took power. In effect a "how was germany improved by the nazi party?" type of thing

Reeling off a list of things which were invented in Nazi Germany doesn't prove anything about the effectiveness of Nazi policies (unless you were somehow claiming that the Nazis invented them). The only thing it proves is that a nation which was already a scientific and industry leader continued to invent some things under the Nazis, which is fairly obvious and would only have not happened if the Nazis were even more incompetent. The Nazis only caused trouble for German science by booting out Jewish and anti-Nazi scientists and stifling free discussion.

you're right...That's why I also posted a link to this article here. http://www.helsinki.fi/iehc2006/papers3/Spoerer85.pdf

Look. I'm not saying that they didn't fail. I'm also not saying that it isn't a shit idea. But to say that Germany wasn't improved at all is stupid. There wouldn't have been such a unilateral acceptance of their ideals had their system not worked to, at least some degree, improve things.

[GeneralHaNor]

Nope, I imagine that Anarchists stand for Freedom

Or failure, but let's go with that.

Republicans stand for Corporatism ( a form of Fascism)

No. Fascism uses corporatism, it is not a form of such.

And Democrats stand for National Socialism ( a form of Fascism we link to Nazism)

wtf is wrong with you?

National Socialism is Nazism, it is an acronym, and National Socialism, by it's very basics, advocates racial superiority. In what way exactly does the Democratic Party support Nazism?

1. Opinion
2. Educate yourself on Corporatism and get back to me, then tell me how it differs from Fascism
3. Nazi's weren't the only people in history to practice a brand of National Socialism, National Socialism is Equal to Fascism, but not Equal to Nazism, although it is what they practiced,

[Vandengaarde]

1. Opinion
2. Educate yourself on Corporatism and get back to me, then tell me how it differs from Fascism
3. Nazi's weren't the only people in history to practice a brand of National Socialism, National Socialism is Equal to Fascism, but not Equal to Nazism, although it is what they practiced,

To answer 2: Corporatism IS fascism. But corporatism isn't free market, it's an economy that is essentially free except heavily regulated by the government. It isn't socialism.

3. Nazi itself stands for Nationalistische Sozialism, German for "Nationalist Socialism". WHAT? How insane!

[Dystopia420]

I'm going to bed. I've been up all night reading a book and some papers. Have fun everyone.

[The Parkus Empire]

Doesn't mean they haven't drifted into it, or that there are no similiarites

Of course there are similarities. But bringing-up minor things to compare them is obtuse, that's why Godwin is obtuse. None of the things Nazism is typically hated for is common to the Democratic Party.

Opinion, my ideology states that Statism, while not being equal to fascism, is similarly oppressive in all forms. having the effect of being "just as bad" and "just as abhorrent"

I don't see how health care is as abhorrent as genocide.

[GeneralHaNor]

1. Opinion
2. Educate yourself on Corporatism and get back to me, then tell me how it differs from Fascism
3. Nazi's weren't the only people in history to practice a brand of National Socialism, National Socialism is Equal to Fascism, but not Equal to Nazism, although it is what they practiced,

To answer 2: Corporatism IS fascism. But corporatism isn't free market, it's an economy that is essentially free except heavily regulated by the government. It isn't socialism.

3. Nazi itself stands for Nationalistische Sozialism, German for "Nationalist Socialism". WHAT? How insane!

Thanks for agreeing with on 2, I never claimed Corporatism was Socialism, I did however claim it was the platform of the Republican Party, making them Fascist

Yes I know what "Nazi" means, but one can be a "National Socialist" as a matter of ideology, and not be a member of the German Workers Party circa 1933. National Socialism (not my cup of tea, at any rate) is a ideology which grants supremacy to the state in all matters to create a controlled and planned economy for the benefit of the state (and ostensibly the people) If a person holds this position, it doesn't make them a Nazi, it means they have something in common with Nazi's, mainly there government and economic system.

[Vandengaarde]

Opinion, my ideology states that Statism, while not being equal to fascism, is similarly oppressive in all forms. having the effect of being "just as bad" and "just as abhorrent"

I don't see how health care is as abhorrent as genocide.

Because you see, they injure their enemies. Then they heal them. Then they injure them again!

[The Parkus Empire]

Because you see, they injure their enemies. Then they heal them. Then they injure them again!

You know who had doctors? Hitler.