Actual Neo-Nazis around hither parts?

[Nazis in Space]

Not what I asked. Where were the Jews deported to in WWII?

Ovens?

I lol'd IRL, and I'm not feeling bad about it, either.

Well. Maybe a little.

But I still laughed.

[Poorisolation]

So basically just to recap so far and I have to thank NA for helping to clarify this:

Neo-Nazis are Neanderthals that wannabe brown or black Homo Sapiens Sapiens but are afraid the far superior genes of that race will obliterate any further feelings of inadequate inferiority thereby unfitting their offspring for Nazihood.

Well as a theory it certainly explains an awful lot.

So hands up who wants to be on that team again?

[Scarsaw]

Not what I asked. Where were the Jews deported to in WWII?

Actually, the original intent of Nazi Germany was deportation of Jews (which explains Von Mildenstein's visit to the Zionists in Palestine in 33); however, they quickly learned that no other country would take. That is why it is called the FINAL solution; all other solution's failed and you can always deport someone to death...

[Vandengaarde]

Not what I asked. Where were the Jews deported to in WWII?

Actually, the original intent of Nazi Germany was deportation of Jews (which explains Von Mildenstein's visit to the Zionists in Palestine in 33); however, they quickly learned that no other country would take. That is why it is called the FINAL solution; all other solution's failed and you can always deport someone to death...

They wanted to ship all the jews to Madagascar but there wasn't a safe route by sea by the time they thought of it. If they had negotiated a way to do that, poof, no holocaust.

[Poorisolation]

Not what I asked. Where were the Jews deported to in WWII?

Actually, the original intent of Nazi Germany was deportation of Jews (which explains Von Mildenstein's visit to the Zionists in Palestine in 33); however, they quickly learned that no other country would take. That is why it is called the FINAL solution; all other solution's failed and you can always deport someone to death...

...or you can learn to recognise a non-problem thereby enabling you to solve a real problem like say a massive shortage of labour, say?

There is a reason the thousand year Reich went extinct in just twelve and it is called incompetence.

[Laerod]

Not what I asked. Where were the Jews deported to in WWII?

Actually, the original intent of Nazi Germany was deportation of Jews (which explains Von Mildenstein's visit to the Zionists in Palestine in 33); however, they quickly learned that no other country would take. That is why it is called the FINAL solution; all other solution's failed and you can always deport someone to death...

Not exactly. The Final Solution was the term given to the means the Nazis were exploring to the "problem" of Jews living in Europe. The first couple of proposals were deportation and resettlement, Palestine and (after the Fall of France) Madagascar being the two most prominent locations. Deportation was at certain points in time considered the Final Solution.

[Scarsaw]

Actually, the original intent of Nazi Germany was deportation of Jews (which explains Von Mildenstein's visit to the Zionists in Palestine in 33); however, they quickly learned that no other country would take. That is why it is called the FINAL solution; all other solution's failed and you can always deport someone to death...

They wanted to ship all the jews to Madagascar but there wasn't a safe route by sea by the time they thought of it. If they had negotiated a way to do that, poof, no holocaust.

Yeah, killing the Jews was not their first idea as it was a logistical nightmare before the invention of gas chambers, among other things.

Really, the invention of the gas chambers is really what made it possible as, as Hoss reports, the drinking and stress levels of your average camp soldier was worrisome; he attributed it to the fact that men are naturally haunted by shooting unarmed women and children who did not do anything to "deserve"* it. Once the chamber was invented and the men were able to kill without actually putting the trigger...the noticed the levels were back down to an acceptable level as it was more like the men were part of a process instead of a murder.

* Although a person may not deserve to be shot because they were trying to escape or beaten to death for not working hard enough, people can try and justify their actions to kill by still using that poor excuse as a reason none-the-less. What made the "line up against the wall" shootings before the gas chamber worse is that there is no excuse to use as a reason.

[Vandengaarde]

They wanted to ship all the jews to Madagascar but there wasn't a safe route by sea by the time they thought of it. If they had negotiated a way to do that, poof, no holocaust.

Yeah, killing the Jews was not their first idea as it was a logistical nightmare before the invention of gas chambers, among other things.

Really, the invention of the gas chambers is really what made it possible as, as Hoss reports, the drinking and stress levels of your average camp soldier was worrisome; he attributed it to the fact that men are naturally haunted by shooting unarmed women and children who did not do anything to "deserve"* it. Once the chamber was invented and the men were able to kill without actually putting the trigger...the noticed the levels were back down to an acceptable level as it was more like the men were part of a process instead of a murder.

* Although a person may not deserve to be shot because they were trying to escape or beaten to death for not working hard enough, people can try and justify their actions to kill by still using that poor excuse as a reason none-the-less. What made the "line up against the wall" shootings before the gas chamber worse is that there is no excuse to use as a reason.

Even when they had the gas chambers though, they really weren't trying very hard to finish the final solution, considering how slow they were at the executions. Not to defend them or anything.

[Laerod]

Even when they had the gas chambers though, they really weren't trying very hard to finish the final solution, considering how slow they were at the executions. Not to defend them or anything.

Let's not forget there was a war going on and some of the prisoners were being used for the German industry. Though while the Germans didn't manage to concentrate all their resources on the genocide, the rates of murders were unprecedented and drastically picked up near the end of the war.

[Scarsaw]

Actually, the original intent of Nazi Germany was deportation of Jews (which explains Von Mildenstein's visit to the Zionists in Palestine in 33); however, they quickly learned that no other country would take. That is why it is called the FINAL solution; all other solution's failed and you can always deport someone to death...

Not exactly. The Final Solution was the term given to the means the Nazis were exploring to the "problem" of Jews living in Europe. The first couple of proposals were deportation and resettlement, Palestine and (after the Fall of France) Madagascar being the two most prominent locations. Deportation was at certain points in time considered the Final Solution.

True, my bad for emphasis the word like that...the Wannsee Conference did focus mainly on the deportation and relocation of Jews, although it did lay the ground for extermination by presenting the idea of Jew-only work camps (where most will work until death) and the "possible final remnant [of the camps] will, since it will undoubtedly consist of the most resistant portion, have to be treated accordingly, because it is the product of natural selection and would, if released, act as the seed of a new Jewish revival"

[Scarsaw]

Even when they had the gas chambers though, they really weren't trying very hard to finish the final solution, considering how slow they were at the executions. Not to defend them or anything.

Why kill a huge labour source when you're in a war? Hitler's idea to remove all Jews from Germany had to take a side seat to the war, especially in the later years. There was a reason why he allowed Mischlings into the military, and later drafted them. It was only when it was obvious all was lost the death tolls rose...prehaps as a last ditch effort to at least accomplish something while hiding evidence from the advancing Allies.

It's not like they needed the labour anymore...

[Avenio]

The emergence of population genetics further undermined the categorisation of Europeans into clearly defined racial groups. A 2007 study using samples exclusively from Europe found an unusually high degree of European homogeneity: "there is low apparent diversity in Europe with the entire continent-wide samples only marginally more dispersed than single population samples elsewhere in the world.

No-one here is saying that different European populations should be considered different 'races', but rather most are contesting the notion that a single 'white race' exists, let alone any 'races' at all. This study, which you've failed to source, notes that on a statistical basis (Note that word), European populations are more related to each other than other comparable single populations in other parts of the world, which is explained in the study as being because of the relative geographic isolation of Europe as a continent.

The Original Study

Doesn't include African or Asian or mixed-blood hordes; No. And No there's the Human Species; with it's various sub-species. (races)
Neanderthal DNA is actually found in minuscule amount in the high north. That sub-race is virtually extinct.

Geneticists disagree.

[Nazi Flower Power]

So basically just to recap so far and I have to thank NA for helping to clarify this:

Neo-Nazis are Neanderthals that wannabe brown or black Homo Sapiens Sapiens but are afraid the far superior genes of that race will obliterate any further feelings of inadequate inferiority thereby unfitting their offspring for Nazihood.

Well as a theory it certainly explains an awful lot.

So hands up who wants to be on that team again?

*Raises hand*

You do know that Neanderthal's may have been superior to modern humans in some ways? It's not entirely clear why they became extinct. Neanderthals had larger brains than modern humans, so I do wonder about most Nazis apparent lack of intelligence if Nazis are in fact Neanderthals. On the other hand, I've heard it suggested that Neanderthals could have gone extinct due to poor social skills and lack of cooperation -- which might explain some Nazi behavior if they are actually the same people.

[Laerod]

True, my bad for emphasis the word like that...the Wannsee Conference did focus mainly on the deportation and relocation of Jews, although it did lay the ground for extermination by presenting the idea of Jew-only work camps (where most will work until death) and the "possible final remnant [of the camps] will, since it will undoubtedly consist of the most resistant portion, have to be treated accordingly, because it is the product of natural selection and would, if released, act as the seed of a new Jewish revival"

Nah, the Wannsee Conference actually debated on what was to be done and then, when they'd decided that extermination was the answer they were looking for, which already applied means were the most efficient.

[Nazi Flower Power]

which might explain some Nazi behavior if they are actually the same people.

Milgram, on the 'Germans are different' theory, disagrees.

I know. I was just going along with the joke about Nazis being Neanderthals.

[Scarsaw]

Nah, the Wannsee Conference actually debated on what was to be done and then, when they'd decided that extermination was the answer they were looking for, which already applied means were the most efficient.

No, the conference did involve a lot of discussion of only deportation to the East of Europe; so much so, that modern revisionists even deny the talk of death was on the table! Don't get me wrong, the topic of extermination was passed, but it was not harped on nor stated in a direct way. It seemed to have been more hinted at, by saying that it is a possibility, and it gave the foundation for the death camps, but I would argue that it was not the soul creator of it.

It was more the creator of deportation to the East of Europe and the work camps. The death camps and the extermination policy developed more from the work camps and as the Russian western push, which made deportation to the East impossible.

[Scarsaw]

Milgram, on the 'Germans are different' theory, disagrees.

I know. I was just going along with the joke about Nazis being Neanderthals.

How can you joke if you're a NAZI?!

[Nazi Flower Power]

I know. I was just going along with the joke about Nazis being Neanderthals.

How can you joke if you're a NAZI?!

I dunno... The Neanderthal brain is an amazing thing.

[Greed and Death]

But are there any actual Neo-Nazis in NSG; that is, people that identify as Neo-Nazis?

are you asking me if I voted for Obama? and they are mostly in the closet on here as far as not daring to actually admit it

You've been watching too much Beck if you think a vote for Obama = a vote for fascism.

[Poorisolation]

How can you joke if you're a NAZI?!

I dunno... The Neanderthal brain is an amazing thing.

Well so far your theories are working for me

Though apparently Neanderthals only ate meat whereas his nibs was a vegetarian....then again, watching movies all night and and not getting up before midday, there is plenty of evidence that the Hitler Fuhrerate was just one long teen rebellion, which would explain why he did not do his homework on world conquest properly.

[Vandengaarde]

I dunno... The Neanderthal brain is an amazing thing.

Well so far your theories are working for me

Though apparently Neanderthals only ate meat whereas his nibs was a vegetarian....then again, watching movies all night and and not getting up before midday, there is plenty of evidence that the Hitler Fuhrerate was just one long teen rebellion, which would explain why he did not do his homework on world conquest properly.

"So Adolf, if you are going to take your soldiers on a n invasion of Russia, what season do you need to be best equipped for? a. Summer, b. Winter, c. Autumn, or D., Spring?"
"You need to be prepared for Summer! Is very hot in Russia, ja?" "No, Hitler it's-"
"LET'S INVADE RUSSIA GUYZ! I GOT L33T HAX AND STUFF LIKE MISSILES!"

[Poorisolation]

Well so far your theories are working for me

Though apparently Neanderthals only ate meat whereas his nibs was a vegetarian....then again, watching movies all night and and not getting up before midday, there is plenty of evidence that the Hitler Fuhrerate was just one long teen rebellion, which would explain why he did not do his homework on world conquest properly.

"So Adolf, if you are going to take your soldiers on a n invasion of Russia, what season do you need to be best equipped for? a. Summer, b. Winter, c. Autumn, or D., Spring?"
"You need to be prepared for Summer! Is very hot in Russia, ja?" "No, Hitler it's-"
"LET'S INVADE RUSSIA GUYZ! I GOT L33T HAX AND STUFF LIKE MISSILES!"

cannot ty[e too busy dying of oxygen deprivation but

[Laerod]

No, the conference did involve a lot of discussion of only deportation to the East of Europe; so much so, that modern revisionists even deny the talk of death was on the table! Don't get me wrong, the topic of extermination was passed, but it was not harped on nor stated in a direct way. It seemed to have been more hinted at, by saying that it is a possibility, and it gave the foundation for the death camps, but I would argue that it was not the soul creator of it.

It was more the creator of deportation to the East of Europe and the work camps. The death camps and the extermination policy developed more from the work camps and as the Russian western push, which made deportation to the East impossible.

If you read the protocols, you'll notice that the Eastern territories are given as the last named location where Jews were to be evacuated to. Other talk of the final solution doesn't mention any locations. It does however mention that the Final Solution is to be applied to this area first before the mass deportations begin.

In all, there is a bit of reading between the lines that is necessary, but these two parts are sufficiently explicit:

The Head of the Security Police and the SD [Heydrich] then gave a brief review of the struggle conducted so far against this foe. The most important elements are:
a) forcing the Jews out of the various spheres of life of the German people,
b) forcing the Jews out of the German people’s living space (Lebensraum).

In pursuance of these endeavors, an accelerated emigration of the Jews from the territory of the Reich was seen as the only temporary solution and was accordingly embarked upon in an intensified and systematic manner.

(Page 3)

III. As a further possible solution, and with the appropriate prior authorization by the Führer, emigration has now been replaced by evacuation to the East. This operation should be regarded only as a provisional option, though in view of the coming final solution of the Jewish question it is already supplying practical experience of vital importance.

(Page 5)

In the course of the final solution and under approriate direction, the Jews are to be utilized for work in the East in a suitable manner. In large labor columns and separated by sexes, Jews capable of working will be dispatched to these regions to build roads, and in the process a large number of them will undoubtedly drop out by way of natural attrition.

Those who ultimately should possibly get by will have to be given suitable treatment because they unquestionably represent the most resistant segments and therefore constitute a natural elite that, if allowed to go free, would turn into a germ cell of renewed Jewish revival. (Witness the experience of history.)

(Pages 7 & 8)

In conclusion there was a discussion about the various types of possible solutions. Here Gauleiter Dr. Meyer and State Secretary Dr. Bühler both took the position that in connection with the final solution certain preparatory measures be carried out in the occupied territories at once, but in such a way that the population there would not become apprehensive.

(Page 15)

[GeneralHaNor]

-snip-

Don't forget the black uniforms of the SS.

Nazi Uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss, Biggest Fashionista in Europe at that time

[GeneralHaNor]

Nazi Uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss, Biggest Fashionista in Europe at that time

Who would have guessed that the point of fashion was to stand out?

I prefer a practical non-descript uniform, useful for not getting hit by the random sniper bullet.

But if you goal is to be down right impressive, intimidating (and let's face it, cool) then yeah....SS Uniforms fit that bill really well