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I'm a police officer and I tend to overlook certain laws, like the no whistling on Sundays rule. That's just plain silly.

In all seriousness, I'm an American police officer who abides by the law... ever since I became a police officer, that is. Unofficially I am pro-legalization for marijuana, but until it is legalized, I have to uphold the law and arrest any offenders, although sometimes I let them go with a warning.

I have no problems with upholding any of the state or federal laws, besides marijuana usage and maybe issuing parking tickets. Except for those, I don't think there are any immorality issues with the laws I'm required to enforce.

Panzerjaeger wrote:

Person012345 wrote:For your benefit, this also is not a personal attack.

Are you sure? It looks pretty attacky to me.

I'm sure.

I think.

It's not a personal attack, it doesn't disparage his character in any way. It's logically retarded, yes, but it's not an attack on the other person's character.

Person012345 wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:Are you sure? It looks pretty attacky to me.

I'm sure.

I think.

It's not a personal attack, it doesn't disparage his character in any way. It's logically retarded, yes, but it's not an attack on the other person's character.

Poor Person012345 your sense of humor was killed by this thread. We should have a memorial service.

Panzerjaeger wrote:

Person012345 wrote:I'm sure.

I think.

It's not a personal attack, it doesn't disparage his character in any way. It's logically retarded, yes, but it's not an attack on the other person's character.

Poor Person012345 your sense of humor was killed by this thread. We should have a memorial service.

I never knew him that well...

Achaea-Graecia wrote:I'm a police officer and I tend to overlook certain laws, like the no whistling on Sundays rule. That's just plain silly.

In all seriousness, I'm an American police officer who abides by the law... ever since I became a police officer, that is. Unofficially I am pro-legalization for marijuana, but until it is legalized, I have to uphold the law and arrest any offenders, although sometimes I let them go with a warning.

I have no problems with upholding any of the state or federal laws, besides marijuana usage and maybe issuing parking tickets. Except for those, I don't think there are any immorality issues with the laws I'm required to enforce.

Do you know any of the theories behind how your job is ethically/morally justifiable?

Bendira wrote:

Achaea-Graecia wrote:I'm a police officer and I tend to overlook certain laws, like the no whistling on Sundays rule. That's just plain silly.

In all seriousness, I'm an American police officer who abides by the law... ever since I became a police officer, that is. Unofficially I am pro-legalization for marijuana, but until it is legalized, I have to uphold the law and arrest any offenders, although sometimes I let them go with a warning.

I have no problems with upholding any of the state or federal laws, besides marijuana usage and maybe issuing parking tickets. Except for those, I don't think there are any immorality issues with the laws I'm required to enforce.

Do you know any of the theories behind how your job is ethically/morally justifiable?

Because you obviously don't. Why don't you actually provide some proof instead of rambling about how killing Mexican Children is hella cool but shooting dope fiends is bad?

Panzerjaeger wrote:

Bendira wrote:
Do you know any of the theories behind how your job is ethically/morally justifiable?

Because you obviously don't. Why don't you actually provide some proof instead of rambling about how killing Mexican Children is hella cool but shooting dope fiends is bad?

Please, for the last time. Stop doing that. You aren't contributing to the conversation at all by mischaracterizing my position over and over.

Bendira wrote:

Caninope wrote:Except that most drug arrests of users don't take place with SWAT teams. Most arrests, even SWAT arrests, are made without a shot being fired. Sometimes, users can get off with just going to a rehabilitation center. And most people in jail aren't raped.

Nothing you just said has anything to do with a minority position stopping an action.

You can sue.

Bendira wrote:Do you know any of the theories behind how your job is ethically/morally justifiable?

Why does it matter if he knows why other people think his job is morally justifyable?

You should follow your own moral code, not the arbitrary teachings of other people.

Person012345 wrote:

Bendira wrote:Do you know any of the theories behind how your job is ethically/morally justifiable?

Why does it matter if he knows why other people think his job is morally justifyable?

You should follow your own moral code, not the arbitrary teachings of other people.

If I followed my moral code, I would be arrested and imprisoned.

Bendira wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:Because you obviously don't. Why don't you actually provide some proof instead of rambling about how killing Mexican Children is hella cool but shooting dope fiends is bad?

Please, for the last time. Stop doing that. You aren't contributing to the conversation at all by mischaracterizing my position over and over.

Right because you contributed so much when you accused me of supporting slavery and segregation. Get bent and stop playing the martyr.

Panzerjaeger wrote:

Bendira wrote:
Please, for the last time. Stop doing that. You aren't contributing to the conversation at all by mischaracterizing my position over and over.

Right because you contributed so much when you accused me of supporting slavery and segregation. Get bent and stop playing the martyr.

I didn't accuse you of either of those things my reading impaired friend. I was making a metaphor outlining how the logic you used in your assertions against me were the same logic that people that were pro-slavery and pro-segregation used.

Bendira wrote:

Person012345 wrote:Why does it matter if he knows why other people think his job is morally justifyable?

You should follow your own moral code, not the arbitrary teachings of other people.

If I followed my moral code, I would be arrested and imprisoned.

Are you willing to take the punishment?

If not, then you place your own welfare above those certain morals you hold. What is your point? I believe that is called Ignoratio elenchi. It doesn't actually address what I said at all.

Bendira wrote:

Person012345 wrote:Why does it matter if he knows why other people think his job is morally justifyable?

You should follow your own moral code, not the arbitrary teachings of other people.

If I followed my moral code, I would be arrested and imprisoned.

If you actually had any convictions, you'd face that punishment. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

Bendira wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:Right because you contributed so much when you accused me of supporting slavery and segregation. Get bent and stop playing the martyr.

I didn't accuse you of either of those things my reading impaired friend. I was making a metaphor outlining how the logic you used in your assertions against me were the same logic that people that were pro-slavery and pro-segregation used.

Again you have no clue what a metaphor is unless you are telling me, "You would probably support slavery or segregation." is now a metaphor.

Sdaeriji wrote:

Bendira wrote:
If I followed my moral code, I would be arrested and imprisoned.

If you actually had any convictions, you'd face that punishment. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.

Panzerjaeger wrote:

Bendira wrote:
I didn't accuse you of either of those things my reading impaired friend. I was making a metaphor outlining how the logic you used in your assertions against me were the same logic that people that were pro-slavery and pro-segregation used.

Again you have no clue what a metaphor is unless you are telling me, "You would probably support slavery or segregation." is now a metaphor.

By your logic, I see no reason why you wouldn't.

Bendira wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:
If you actually had any convictions, you'd face that punishment. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.

So really you are just a Moral Coward who whines on the internet.

Bendira wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:
If you actually had any convictions, you'd face that punishment. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.

So you don't have the strength to stand up for your beliefs. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

So you know, you didn't actually answer this:

Person012345 wrote:Why does it matter if he knows why other people think his job is morally justifyable?

Sdaeriji wrote:

Bendira wrote:
If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.

So you don't have the strength to stand up for your beliefs. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

Isn't it funny that he seems unable to identify the real ad hominem.

Honestly, just because you don't do everything you think is ideal due to possible punishment does not make those ideals wrong. Implying it does I believe is a fallacy. And most people would not consider it to be particularly negative, bear in mind that you guys have been defending the police who would do what they don't find ideal in order to avoid punishment.

Sdaeriji wrote:

Bendira wrote:
If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.

So you don't have the strength to stand up for your beliefs. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

Im not abandoning my beliefs. Abandoning my beliefs would be if I stopped advocating voluntaryism. I plan on practicing civil disobedience in the future, but only after I finish up college.

Person012345 wrote:So you know, you didn't actually answer this:

Person012345 wrote:Why does it matter if he knows why other people think his job is morally justifyable?

So he knows what the people actually think about his work, the people he supposibly is supposed to "protect and serve".

Person012345 wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:
So you don't have the strength to stand up for your beliefs. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

Isn't it funny that he seems unable to identify the real ad hominem.

Honestly, just because you don't do everything you think is ideal due to possible punishment does not make those ideals wrong. Implying it does I believe is a fallacy. And most people would not consider it to be particularly negative, bear in mind that you guys have been defending the police who would do what they don't find ideal in order to avoid punishment.

Yeah and they would be the same people mocking them on the same interwebs forum from their garages after he gets arrested for doing something stupid to "stand up" for his beliefs.

Bendira wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:
So you don't have the strength to stand up for your beliefs. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.

I plan on practicing civil disobedience in the future, but only after I finish up college.

Can I LOL at this?