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by Achaea-Graecia » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:17 pm
by Person012345 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:18 pm
by Panzerjaeger » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:19 pm
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by Person012345 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:20 pm
Panzerjaeger wrote:Person012345 wrote:I'm sure.
I think.
It's not a personal attack, it doesn't disparage his character in any way. It's logically retarded, yes, but it's not an attack on the other person's character.
Poor Person012345 your sense of humor was killed by this thread. We should have a memorial service.
by Bendira » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:56 pm
Achaea-Graecia wrote:I'm a police officer and I tend to overlook certain laws, like the no whistling on Sundays rule. That's just plain silly.
In all seriousness, I'm an American police officer who abides by the law... ever since I became a police officer, that is. Unofficially I am pro-legalization for marijuana, but until it is legalized, I have to uphold the law and arrest any offenders, although sometimes I let them go with a warning.
I have no problems with upholding any of the state or federal laws, besides marijuana usage and maybe issuing parking tickets. Except for those, I don't think there are any immorality issues with the laws I'm required to enforce.
by Panzerjaeger » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:57 pm
Bendira wrote:Achaea-Graecia wrote:I'm a police officer and I tend to overlook certain laws, like the no whistling on Sundays rule. That's just plain silly.
In all seriousness, I'm an American police officer who abides by the law... ever since I became a police officer, that is. Unofficially I am pro-legalization for marijuana, but until it is legalized, I have to uphold the law and arrest any offenders, although sometimes I let them go with a warning.
I have no problems with upholding any of the state or federal laws, besides marijuana usage and maybe issuing parking tickets. Except for those, I don't think there are any immorality issues with the laws I'm required to enforce.
Do you know any of the theories behind how your job is ethically/morally justifiable?
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by Bendira » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:58 pm
by Caninope » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:58 pm
Bendira wrote:Caninope wrote:Except that most drug arrests of users don't take place with SWAT teams. Most arrests, even SWAT arrests, are made without a shot being fired. Sometimes, users can get off with just going to a rehabilitation center. And most people in jail aren't raped.
Nothing you just said has anything to do with a minority position stopping an action.
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.
by Person012345 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:00 pm
Bendira wrote:Do you know any of the theories behind how your job is ethically/morally justifiable?
by Panzerjaeger » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:01 pm
Bendira wrote:Panzerjaeger wrote:Because you obviously don't. Why don't you actually provide some proof instead of rambling about how killing Mexican Children is hella cool but shooting dope fiends is bad?
Please, for the last time. Stop doing that. You aren't contributing to the conversation at all by mischaracterizing my position over and over.
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by Bendira » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:03 pm
Panzerjaeger wrote:Bendira wrote:
Please, for the last time. Stop doing that. You aren't contributing to the conversation at all by mischaracterizing my position over and over.
Right because you contributed so much when you accused me of supporting slavery and segregation. Get bent and stop playing the martyr.
by Person012345 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:03 pm
by Panzerjaeger » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:06 pm
Bendira wrote:Panzerjaeger wrote:Right because you contributed so much when you accused me of supporting slavery and segregation. Get bent and stop playing the martyr.
I didn't accuse you of either of those things my reading impaired friend. I was making a metaphor outlining how the logic you used in your assertions against me were the same logic that people that were pro-slavery and pro-segregation used.
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by Bendira » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:06 pm
by Bendira » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:06 pm
Panzerjaeger wrote:Bendira wrote:
I didn't accuse you of either of those things my reading impaired friend. I was making a metaphor outlining how the logic you used in your assertions against me were the same logic that people that were pro-slavery and pro-segregation used.
Again you have no clue what a metaphor is unless you are telling me, "You would probably support slavery or segregation." is now a metaphor.
by Panzerjaeger » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:06 pm
Bendira wrote:Sdaeriji wrote:
If you actually had any convictions, you'd face that punishment. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.
If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by Sdaeriji » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:07 pm
Bendira wrote:Sdaeriji wrote:
If you actually had any convictions, you'd face that punishment. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.
If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.
by Person012345 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:08 pm
Person012345 wrote:Why does it matter if he knows why other people think his job is morally justifyable?
by Person012345 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:10 pm
Sdaeriji wrote:Bendira wrote:
If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.
So you don't have the strength to stand up for your beliefs. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.
by Bendira » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:12 pm
Sdaeriji wrote:Bendira wrote:
If I was arrested and imprisoned, I would effectively be silenced. I wouldn't be able to be an activist or get my message out, I wouldn't be able to raise a family, and I wouldn't be able to live a halfway decent life without the constant fear of prison rape or beatings.
So you don't have the strength to stand up for your beliefs. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.
by Bendira » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:13 pm
by Zephie » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:13 pm
Person012345 wrote:Sdaeriji wrote:
So you don't have the strength to stand up for your beliefs. You abandon your beliefs when they become inconvenient.
Isn't it funny that he seems unable to identify the real ad hominem.
Honestly, just because you don't do everything you think is ideal due to possible punishment does not make those ideals wrong. Implying it does I believe is a fallacy. And most people would not consider it to be particularly negative, bear in mind that you guys have been defending the police who would do what they don't find ideal in order to avoid punishment.
Senestrum wrote:I just can't think of anything to say that wouldn't get me warned on this net-nanny forum.
by Trippoli » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:17 pm
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