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Postby Aelosia » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:43 am

African Supremacy wrote:You are eighter 100% something or 100% nothing.


"eighter" as in "more eight"

So, you are more eight 100% something or 100% nothing?

I was bad in math, but I don't find any sense on this
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Postby Imperial Domtopia » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:16 am

Jesus Christ, he was kidding. Probably because he's a comedian. There was absolutely no serious point to that quote whatsoever.
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Postby Arkinesia » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:26 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:It's called comedy, god.

IMO, it's just being mean and calling it comedy.

Waaaaaah.

Save the crocodile tears. Glenn Beck is actually causing problems and misinforming people, this is just being funny. You would probably shit yourself if you watched five seconds of a George Carlin skit if the line in the OP offended you.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:40 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Bramborska wrote:If only...



Agree, disagree? Does Maher's political leanings change the way in which we view his comments?

Does Maher really have any talent any more that anyone should pay attention to him?

he has a very annoying style of delivery on his show but he has excellent writers so he is often funny in spite of it.

i didnt see the show so i cant tell you whether or not this particular bit was funny. it doesnt read funny.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:42 am

Washington Democrats wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Of course not. I would not bring up Frank if that's what I was thinking. However, kids are very impressionable. It's would be a stretch to assume that these people had no effect on Barack. They did. As evidenced by his selection of classes and friends in college, members of his administration now, and certain policies he supports.

Depends. Not all Kids go after that impression the same way.

I didn't say the do. Some go in the completely opposite direction. Obama didn't though.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:48 am

MisanthropicPopulism wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Family heritage? Oh you mean his communist parents? Communist grandparents? Communist surrogate father? Yes, I'd say his family heritage has quite a bit to do with his performance...

Yeah, commnunist grandparents. Like Stalin. No wait, his grandparents lived in Hawaii where one worked for a furniture company and the other was a bank VP. Damn commies.

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Dunham has been described by her friends as "a fellow traveler..." meaning a communist sympathizer. [6]
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:48 am

African Supremacy wrote:You are eighter 100% something or 100% nothing.

No you aren't.
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Postby SaintB » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:51 am

Bramborska wrote:
SaintB wrote:Bill Maher is considered a comedian, any remarks he makes are generally considered moot unless he's spewing facts; unlike most pundits who people take their word as absolute certainty.


Very good point, but do you think that perhaps there are some lines (like racism) comedians shouldn't cross?

As an ex comedian... no I don't. The golden rule is to know your audience. Bill Maher's target audience has a thick skin, and anyone who doesn't will be mocked and ridiculed if they speak up.
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Postby Wamitoria » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:51 am

Sibirsky wrote:-snip-

Mind giving a link for that source?
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Postby The Chelbrusitan » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:53 am

African Supremacy wrote:You are eighter 100% something or 100% nothing.


I am italian and french on my father's side and Native American, English, Scottish and Irish on my mothers. What does that make me?
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:53 am

SaintB wrote:
Bramborska wrote:
Very good point, but do you think that perhaps there are some lines (like racism) comedians shouldn't cross?

As an ex comedian... no I don't. The golden rule is to know your audience. Bill Maher's target audience has a thick skin, and anyone who doesn't will be mocked and ridiculed if they speak up.

Ha. I agree.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:54 am

Wamitoria wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:-snip-

Mind giving a link for that source?

No. Here http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Ann_Dunham_Soetoro
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:55 am

The Chelbrusitan wrote:
African Supremacy wrote:You are eighter 100% something or 100% nothing.


I am italian and french on my father's side and Native American, English, Scottish and Irish on my mothers. What does that make me?

That makes you 600% man! Or woman. Hopefully not in weight. ;)
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Postby Wamitoria » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:55 am

Sibirsky wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:Mind giving a link for that source?

No. Here http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Ann_Dunham_Soetoro

Metapedia = Nazi encyclopedia = Not a valid source.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:59 am

Wamitoria wrote:

Metapedia = Nazi encyclopedia = Not a valid source.

So she did not go to that school and was a right wing extremist? Obama was not a member of the New Party?
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Postby Kent-Norman » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:02 am

He'd better not be a Hayaban.Like Bush was.
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Postby Imperial Domtopia » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:14 am

lol I WISH Obama was a Marxist. Not in America, bud.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:22 am

Typical Bill Maher nonsense. Obama's spending alone shows a pretty extreme commitment and he has not really been big on the bipartisan trail. That being said shade has got nothing to do with the issue, but Maher has this notion that political alignment must be genetic in some way and all who hold opinions contrary to his own must be under some form of mental illness. Regardless, Bill Maher got a massive problem when it comes to withholding his ego while observing objective cases, as he loves to mash hand-picked scenarios in to his own subjective group. He makes a pretty good living out of this as well, but it's all to simple to angle a case based on the privately-picked signifier of his choice and market the situation as a mainstream of said movement. This is what he does and also why he can never influence major portions of the independents.
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Postby Imperial Domtopia » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:04 am

Herskerstad wrote:Typical Bill Maher nonsense. Obama's spending alone shows a pretty extreme commitment and he has not really been big on the bipartisan trail. That being said shade has got nothing to do with the issue, but Maher has this notion that political alignment must be genetic in some way and all who hold opinions contrary to his own must be under some form of mental illness. Regardless, Bill Maher got a massive problem when it comes to withholding his ego while observing objective cases, as he loves to mash hand-picked scenarios in to his own subjective group. He makes a pretty good living out of this as well, but it's all to simple to angle a case based on the privately-picked signifier of his choice and market the situation as a mainstream of said movement. This is what he does and also why he can never influence major portions of the independents.



Or, you know, he's a comedian who makes stupid jokes that people like you take seriously.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:06 am

Sibirsky wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:Metapedia = Nazi encyclopedia = Not a valid source.

So she did not go to that school and was a right wing extremist? Obama was not a member of the New Party?

Provide a real source and stop whining.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:35 am

Imperial Domtopia wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:Typical Bill Maher nonsense. Obama's spending alone shows a pretty extreme commitment and he has not really been big on the bipartisan trail. That being said shade has got nothing to do with the issue, but Maher has this notion that political alignment must be genetic in some way and all who hold opinions contrary to his own must be under some form of mental illness. Regardless, Bill Maher got a massive problem when it comes to withholding his ego while observing objective cases, as he loves to mash hand-picked scenarios in to his own subjective group. He makes a pretty good living out of this as well, but it's all to simple to angle a case based on the privately-picked signifier of his choice and market the situation as a mainstream of said movement. This is what he does and also why he can never influence major portions of the independents.



Or, you know, he's a comedian who makes stupid jokes that people like you take seriously.


Problem is that he is only a comedian when he has made a blunder. All other times people consider him as a commentator.
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Postby Svarttjern » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:41 am

I think the lot of you are morons for taking something like this so out of line. All it is is you're LOOKING for something to bitch about to further whatever axe you have to grind and say, "OMG LOOK AT DIS RACIST WHUTE MANZ! HUZ COMEDY HOLDUN UZ BAK BRUTHA".

Grow up and get a life.

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Postby Imperial Domtopia » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:46 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Imperial Domtopia wrote:

Or, you know, he's a comedian who makes stupid jokes that people like you take seriously.


Problem is that he is only a comedian when he has made a blunder. All other times people consider him as a commentator.


Sort of a valid point, though there is a pretty clear distinction when somebody is kidding and when somebody is discussing something. He occasionally makes serious points but mostly just makes fun of the other side. Anybody with any reading comprehension skills can see the comment in the OP's quote was made purely in jest- the context of the clip isn't even necessary to determine that.
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Postby United human countries » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:05 am

Sibirsky wrote:
MisanthropicPopulism wrote:Yeah, commnunist grandparents. Like Stalin. No wait, his grandparents lived in Hawaii where one worked for a furniture company and the other was a bank VP. Damn commies.

What are you blind?
During Obama's campaign for the 2008 presidential election he portrayed his mother as a conservative girl from Kansas; however in reality she was a radical leftist and cutural Marxist. She lived in the Seattle area; spending her teenage years in Seattle’s coffee shops with other young leftist radicals. Obama claims his mother's family were conserevative Methodists or Baptists from Kansas. However his mother's parents were members of a left-wing Unitarian church near Seattle. The church located in Bellevue, Washington was nicknamed "the little red church," because of it’s communist leanings.
The school Ann attended, Mercer Island High School, was a hotbed of pro-Marxist radical teachers. John Stenhouse, board member, told the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party USA and this school has a number of Marxists on it's staff. Two teachers at this school, Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman, both Frankfurt School style Marxists, taught a critical theory curriculum to students which included; rejection of societal norms, attacks on Christianity, the traditional family, and assigned readings by Karl Marx. The hallway between Foubert’s and Wichterman classrooms was sometimes called "anarchy ally."
Dunham has been described by her friends as "a fellow traveler..." meaning a communist sympathizer. [6]
In an interview, Barack Obama referred to his mother as "the dominant figure in my formative years... The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics."
Before she died Ann Dunham wanted to adopt a mixed-race Korean baby father by a Black American stationed in South Korea. [7] Ann Dunham died in Hawaii in 1995 of ovarian cancer and uterine cancer.

All I hear from that quote is "LEFT LEFT THE LEFT IS EVIL!!!!!"
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