Military ban on gay service declared unconstitutional

[Greed and Death]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... onal-.html


Wow, This good news.
So what thinks NSG.

[Greater Americania]

I'm getting damn tired of these overactive courts using far more authority than they should have acquired. The very concept of judicial review should be reevaluated Constitutionally and edited so that Courts will not have the authority to make decisions like this. The Courts are becoming as though a legislature of their own. All they have to do is scream "unconstitutional" and they can enforce whatever they please.

[Potarius]

I think Mr. Cooper meant "archaic", not "arcane".

Then again, maybe the statute is fortified with magics both powerful and terrible?

[Geniasis]

I'm getting damn tired of these overactive courts using far more authority than they should have acquired. The very concept of judicial review should be reevaluated Constitutionally and edited so that Courts will not have the authority to make decisions like this. The Courts are becoming as though a legislature of their own. All they have to do is scream "unconstitutional" and they can enforce whatever they please.

I don't see what the problem is. This decision is both a victory of idealism and pragmatism.

[Bydlostan (Ancient)]

I think Mr. Cooper meant "archaic", not "arcane".

Then again, maybe the statute is fortified with magics both powerful and terrible?

That policy came from Clinton, its not that old or obsolescent, he must have meant arcane.

I don't see anything wrong with DADT, people should keep their sex lives to themselves.

[SaintB]

I'm getting damn tired of these overactive courts using far more authority than they should have acquired. The very concept of judicial review should be reevaluated Constitutionally and edited so that Courts will not have the authority to make decisions like this. The Courts are becoming as though a legislature of their own. All they have to do is scream "unconstitutional" and they can enforce whatever they please.

I don't see what the problem is. This decision is both a victory of idealism and pragmatism.

But we can't let teh gays corrupt our system!

[Geniasis]

I don't see anything wrong with DADT, people should keep their sex lives to themselves.

If that's what the policy was about, it wouldn't be a problem. The issue is that if someone is found to be gay, DADT requires their discharge.

[Hornopolis]

Finally, I hope this gets rid of 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' for good.

[Greater Americania]

I'm getting damn tired of these overactive courts using far more authority than they should have acquired. The very concept of judicial review should be reevaluated Constitutionally and edited so that Courts will not have the authority to make decisions like this. The Courts are becoming as though a legislature of their own. All they have to do is scream "unconstitutional" and they can enforce whatever they please.

I don't see what the problem is. This decision is both a victory of idealism and pragmatism.

I firmly disagree. Anyways, this sort of decision should never pass through the judicial branch. The role of the Courts should be less involved in politics. It's getting to the point where you liberals are abusing the system by simply avoiding the legislature, where you'ld never be able to pass your legislation, and simply heading the Courts where you can forge some sort or arbitrary declaration of unconstitutionality for whatever policy you're opposing. This needs to be put to a stop.

[Geniasis]

I firmly disagree.

Well, tough shit.

Anyways, this sort of decision should never pass through the judicial branch. The role of the Courts should be less involved in politics. It's getting to the point where you liberals are abusing the system by simply avoiding the legislature, where you'ld never be able to pass your legislation, and simply heading the Courts where you can forge some sort or arbitrary declaration of unconstitutionality for whatever policy you're opposing. This needs to be put to a stop.

It's only OK when the conservatives do it, right. My bad.

[Potarius]

I think Mr. Cooper meant "archaic", not "arcane".

Then again, maybe the statute is fortified with magics both powerful and terrible?

That policy came from Clinton, its not that old or obsolescent, he must have meant arcane.

I don't see anything wrong with DADT, people should keep their sex lives to themselves.

The physical policy itself may not be that old, but it's similar to many precedents that have appeared through the ages.

[The Parkus Empire]

I firmly disagree. Anyways, this sort of decision should never pass through the judicial branch. The role of the Courts should be less involved in politics. It's getting to the point where you liberals are abusing the system by simply avoiding the legislature, where you'ld never be able to pass your legislation, and simply heading the Courts where you can forge some sort or arbitrary declaration of unconstitutionality for whatever policy you're opposing. This needs to be put to a stop.

Why are you against this? What bad thing can exactly happen concerning this? The UK military didn't blow-up when they allowed gays to serve openly.

[Lame Geese]

Its about time I wonder what will come of this.

[Illithar]

I for one am very glad of this and say it's about damn time. A person's sexual preferences has no bearing on their love for their country or their ability to fight.

[SaintB]

I'm getting damn tired of these overactive courts using far more authority than they should have acquired. The very concept of judicial review should be reevaluated Constitutionally and edited so that Courts will not have the authority to make decisions like this. The Courts are becoming as though a legislature of their own. All they have to do is scream "unconstitutional" and they can enforce whatever they please.

I don't see what the problem is. This decision is both a victory of idealism and pragmatism.

I firmly disagree. Anyways, this sort of decision should never pass through the judicial branch. The role of the Courts should be less involved in politics. It's getting to the point where you liberals are abusing the system by simply avoiding the legislature, where you'ld never be able to pass your legislation, and simply heading the Courts where you can forge some sort or arbitrary declaration of unconstitutionality for whatever policy you're opposing. This needs to be put to a stop.

A violation of the right to freedom of expression is unconstitutional. Aside from that, this bullshit about using religion to treat gays like sub-human is unconstitutional, oh and uhhh... its also a violation of equal protection under the law... oh wow it looks like the Constitution is on our side. Like is usually is...

[Potarius]

I for one am very glad of this and say it's about damn time. A person's sexual preferences has no bearing on their love for their country or their ability to fight.

It's even better, because we all know that gays have the unbeatable power to shoot powerful, death-dealing liquid from their penises.

That's how the North Vietnamese really won.

[The Parkus Empire]

A violation of the right to freedom of expression is unconstitutional. Aside from that, this bullshit about using religion to treat gays like sub-human is unconstitutional, oh and uhhh... its also a violation of equal protection under the law... oh wow it looks like the Constitution is on our side. Like is usually is...

The Constitution is obviously un-American.

[Illithar]

I for one am very glad of this and say it's about damn time. A person's sexual preferences has no bearing on their love for their country or their ability to fight.

It's even better, because we all know that gays have the unbeatable power to shoot powerful, death-dealing liquid from their penises.

That's how the North Vietnamese really won.

I've always thought we should put gays in charge of making our uniforms. They'll know when the camo clashes with the background.

[SaintB]

I for one am very glad of this and say it's about damn time. A person's sexual preferences has no bearing on their love for their country or their ability to fight.

But it effects the ability to fight of those who are afraid they'll catch teh gay. I personally think anyone who can't support equality for everyone has no business in the military.

[Holy Paradise]

A person's sexual orientation has no bearing upon their ability to serve our country. There is no legal, moral, or pragmatic reason for preventing an openly gay person from being a soldier. Considering that the armed forces are always clamoring for more recruits, while this will not completely solve that issue, it will nonetheless alleviate that problem.

[Potarius]

I for one am very glad of this and say it's about damn time. A person's sexual preferences has no bearing on their love for their country or their ability to fight.

It's even better, because we all know that gays have the unbeatable power to shoot powerful, death-dealing liquid from their penises.

That's how the North Vietnamese really won.

I've always thought we should put gays in charge of making our uniforms. They'll know when the camo clashes with the background.

And they'll give our troops the most tasteful combination of shoes and pants possible.

[Greed and Death]

One of my soldiers was kicked out under don't ask don't tell.
He was a former eagle scout, and was one of the most technically competent soldiers on my sift.
the policy hurts readiness and security and may have cost lives on the front by removing better qualified soldiers form service.

[Geniasis]

A violation of the right to freedom of expression is unconstitutional. Aside from that, this bullshit about using religion to treat gays like sub-human is unconstitutional, oh and uhhh... its also a violation of equal protection under the law... oh wow it looks like the Constitution is on our side. Like is usually is...

Exactly. Not only does repealing this prove to be a victory for the ideals of the country, the ban served only to arbitrarily limit our manpower. So repealing it is a pragmatic move as well as a morally sound one.

The two don't often overlap so neatly, I think it's foolish not to jump at the opportunity when they do.

[Zephie]

This is horrible. Now one of the few loopholes for dodging a potential draft is closed.

[Illithar]

One of my soldiers was kicked out under don't ask don't tell.
He was a former eagle scout, and was one of the most technically competent soldiers on my sift.

This is exactly why DADT needed to be gotten rid off. It only weakened us.