Bei Song wrote:I just got a news alert from CNN that says that Rev. Jones cancelled the book burning.
its seeming a bit murky
but i sure would hate to have this asshole get something for his threat to burn the koran.
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by Ashmoria » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:21 pm
Bei Song wrote:I just got a news alert from CNN that says that Rev. Jones cancelled the book burning.
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:22 pm
by Brewdomia » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:22 pm
Neu Mitanni wrote:And btw: for all those who are so concerned about those poor pitiful persecuted Moslems and their precious sensitivities, WHERE THE F*** WERE YOU when the following incident took place:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap ... es.burned/
Yes, that's right: OUR OWN MILITARY (approved, no doubt, by the Kenyan imam) BURNED BIBLES in that shithole Afghanistan, lest certain treacherous, ungrateful, primitive bastards whom we happen to be DEFENDING go berserk at the thought someone might actually READ them, or even worse, convert to Christianity
Oops, I forgot: nobody's afraid to offend CHRISTIANS, because we don't RIOT and KILL those who "offend" us!
by Daistallia 2104 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:22 pm
by Wilgrove » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:22 pm
Neu Mitanni wrote:Wilgrove wrote:Neu Mitanni wrote:Ifreann wrote:Neu Mitanni wrote:The real question is, Why are we supposed to be intimidated by the threat of (so-called) radical Moslems attacking us, rather than warning THEM against doing so and holding THEM responsible for their crimes?
You give that a try, buddy. You go to the Middle East and tell them they're under arrest for violating US law. See where that gets you.
Who said anything about "arresting" anybody?
The best way to hold them responsible is with massively disproportional force, applied militarily.
Yes, because that's working so well right now, and it worked well in Vietnam and Korea too!
Poor analogy, since we're not using anything like massively disproportional force. And South Korea at least is in fine condition (unlike the North). As for Vietnam, application of force worked as well as possible under the circumstances, but was negated by the IDIOTIC policies of Legislature's Biggest Jackass and the cowardice of the 1974 US Congress.
by Holy Paradise » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:23 pm
Brewdomia wrote:Neu Mitanni wrote:And btw: for all those who are so concerned about those poor pitiful persecuted Moslems and their precious sensitivities, WHERE THE F*** WERE YOU when the following incident took place:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap ... es.burned/
Yes, that's right: OUR OWN MILITARY (approved, no doubt, by the Kenyan imam) BURNED BIBLES in that shithole Afghanistan, lest certain treacherous, ungrateful, primitive bastards whom we happen to be DEFENDING go berserk at the thought someone might actually READ them, or even worse, convert to Christianity
Oops, I forgot: nobody's afraid to offend CHRISTIANS, because we don't RIOT and KILL those who "offend" us!
No, Catholics hurt little boys, so obviously they were right in their doing.
by Daistallia 2104 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:24 pm
Ashmoria wrote:but i sure would hate to have this asshole get something for his threat to burn the koran.
Pastor Terry Jones said Thursday that he decided to cancel his protest because the leader of a planned Islamic Center near ground zero has agreed to move its controversial location.
by Brewdomia » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:25 pm
Holy Paradise wrote:Brewdomia wrote:Neu Mitanni wrote:And btw: for all those who are so concerned about those poor pitiful persecuted Moslems and their precious sensitivities, WHERE THE F*** WERE YOU when the following incident took place:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap ... es.burned/
Yes, that's right: OUR OWN MILITARY (approved, no doubt, by the Kenyan imam) BURNED BIBLES in that shithole Afghanistan, lest certain treacherous, ungrateful, primitive bastards whom we happen to be DEFENDING go berserk at the thought someone might actually READ them, or even worse, convert to Christianity
Oops, I forgot: nobody's afraid to offend CHRISTIANS, because we don't RIOT and KILL those who "offend" us!
No, Catholics hurt little boys, so obviously they were right in their doing.
I truly hope you are merely just trying to make a point. Otherwise, nice unfair generalization.
by Holy Paradise » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:25 pm
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Ashmoria wrote:but i sure would hate to have this asshole get something for his threat to burn the koran.
He did, so it would seem.Pastor Terry Jones said Thursday that he decided to cancel his protest because the leader of a planned Islamic Center near ground zero has agreed to move its controversial location.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_ ... an_burning
by Daistallia 2104 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:26 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:NBC and Rueters are saying that there is no deal to move the community center.
by Wilgrove » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:27 pm
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Ashmoria wrote:but i sure would hate to have this asshole get something for his threat to burn the koran.
He did, so it would seem.Pastor Terry Jones said Thursday that he decided to cancel his protest because the leader of a planned Islamic Center near ground zero has agreed to move its controversial location.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_ ... an_burning
by Neu Mitanni » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:27 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Neu Mitanni wrote:Wilgrove wrote:You know, I have just one question to Terry Jones. You are willing to burn the Qur'an for whatever fucked up reason, that put citizens of the USA and our military personal in harms way of radical Muslims.
Why do you hate America/Freedom?
Wrong question.
The real question is, Why are we supposed to be intimidated by the threat of (so-called) radical Moslems attacking us, rather than warning THEM against doing so and holding THEM responsible for their crimes?
And better yet: Why aren't (so-called) radical MOSLEMS afraid of offending US?
Better yet, why are we so intimidated by the threat of, as you say, (so-called radical Muslims that we can't have a community center built four blocks away, that we're so intimidated by them that we have to burn their holy book to prove we're not, that we have to treat every single one of them and the entire faith of 1.6 billion as if they're the ones that performed acts of terror? Really, why are we so intimidated at all? From your reaction to them, you're shaking in your fucking boots. All this tough talk, this hyper-reaction, really just smells of the pee running down your leg.
You can't win a war by strapping a bomb to yourself. You can only hope the other side wins it for you. Good job.
by Ashmoria » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:27 pm
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Ashmoria wrote:but i sure would hate to have this asshole get something for his threat to burn the koran.
He did, so it would seem.Pastor Terry Jones said Thursday that he decided to cancel his protest because the leader of a planned Islamic Center near ground zero has agreed to move its controversial location.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_ ... an_burning
by Call to power » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:28 pm
Wilgrove wrote:Helping you out with a link.
by Phing Phong » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:30 pm
by Holy Paradise » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:30 pm
Phing Phong wrote:All you need to do is think: What Would Israel Do?
by Daistallia 2104 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:34 pm
Ashmoria wrote:but the other news guys--nbc, reuters-- are saying that there is no agreement.
(Reuters) - A U.S. fundamentalist Christian pastor on Thursday called off his plan to burn copies of the Koran on Saturday.
Terry Jones, who heads the tiny, little-known Dove World Outreach Center church based in the Florida university town of Gainesville, said an agreement had been reached with Muslim leaders to move the controversial location of a planned Islamic cultural center amd mosque in New York.
by Rambhutan » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:35 pm
Neu Mitanni wrote:The GMZ is a deliberate provocation, an effort to plant the black flag of Islam on sacred American territory, an attempt to show the Moslem world at large how weak and easy to blackmail America is, and an intolerable desecration. If that monstrosity is ever built (and shame on any American worker who participates in such an abomination), maybe we'll be fortunate and it will be built to the same construction standards as the Glass Tower in San Francisco, and with similar results.
by Daistallia 2104 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:36 pm
by Daistallia 2104 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:38 pm
Neu Mitanni wrote:The GMZ is a deliberate provocation, an effort to plant the black flag of Islam on sacred American territory...
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:39 pm
Neu Mitanni wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Neu Mitanni wrote:Wilgrove wrote:You know, I have just one question to Terry Jones. You are willing to burn the Qur'an for whatever fucked up reason, that put citizens of the USA and our military personal in harms way of radical Muslims.
Why do you hate America/Freedom?
Wrong question.
The real question is, Why are we supposed to be intimidated by the threat of (so-called) radical Moslems attacking us, rather than warning THEM against doing so and holding THEM responsible for their crimes?
And better yet: Why aren't (so-called) radical MOSLEMS afraid of offending US?
Better yet, why are we so intimidated by the threat of, as you say, (so-called radical Muslims that we can't have a community center built four blocks away, that we're so intimidated by them that we have to burn their holy book to prove we're not, that we have to treat every single one of them and the entire faith of 1.6 billion as if they're the ones that performed acts of terror? Really, why are we so intimidated at all? From your reaction to them, you're shaking in your fucking boots. All this tough talk, this hyper-reaction, really just smells of the pee running down your leg.
You can't win a war by strapping a bomb to yourself. You can only hope the other side wins it for you. Good job.
With arguments like that, I'd be careful about any references to urine or any other waste product.
Neu Mitanni wrote:You can dispense with the "not-all-of-them-are-terrorists" argument, it's a strawman and a pathetically unconvincing one. Not all Nazis worked at Auschwitz either. Some of them were like Oskar Schindler. So what?
Neu Mitanni wrote:The evils of Islam have been discussed exhaustively in other threads, and this is not the place to continue that discussion.
Neu Mitanni wrote:The GMZ is a deliberate provocation, an effort to plant the black flag of Islam on sacred American territory, an attempt to show the Moslem world at large how weak and easy to blackmail America is, and an intolerable desecration. If that monstrosity is ever built (and shame on any American worker who participates in such an abomination), maybe we'll be fortunate and it will be built to the same construction standards as the Glass Tower in San Francisco, and with similar results.
by Holy Paradise » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:40 pm
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Neu Mitanni wrote:The GMZ is a deliberate provocation, an effort to plant the black flag of Islam on sacred American territory...
Why don't you start eith this handy list of mosques already built on your "sacred" American soil: http://www.balaams-ass.com/alhaj/mosques.htm
by Neu Mitanni » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:40 pm
Wilgrove wrote:and it created resistant movement,
Wilgrove wrote:Vietnam and Iraq also had similar movement.
Wilgrove wrote:You know, it's a strange thing, when one countries invades another country the people of the invaded country tends to resist and fight back. It is curious.
Wilgrove wrote:Also, when are you going to sign up for the military? I've asked you this question before, and I will continue to ask until I get an answer. I mean you talk a big game, but what about putting your money where your mouth is, or are you just a chicken hawk?
by Daistallia 2104 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:42 pm
Holy Paradise wrote:Is it wrong that I chuckled when I read the first part of that URL?
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