Pirating "X"

[Indeos]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

In the same vein, what does NS think of shoplifting? I don't do this one, but I heard a couple employees at a store complaining about it, and how they were getting blamed for missing items.

[Ifreann]

Crime is bad, mmmkay.

[Indeos]

Crime is bad, mmmkay.

Bah, you and your morals.

[Rambhutan]

Admitting a crime online doesn't seem too bright.

[Ifreann]

Admitting a crime online doesn't seem too bright.

Everyone knows there are no laws online. It's like international waters.

[Indeos]

Admitting a crime online doesn't seem too bright.

Everyone knows there are no laws online. It's like international waters.

Meh, I'm not too worried. I don't think I'd get arrested for it, and at worst I'd probably have to pay a fine and delete the files, or pay for the games legitimately.

[Intangelon]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

[UberWeegeeia]

I've been pirating old games and emulators for the better part of the last decade, I love it!
So? It's not like Nintendo is getting money off of them anymore.

[A Rightist Puppet]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You who rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

To add onto that...

You smell funny and your momma dresses you odd.

[Indeos]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You who rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

Nope, I don't really have much of a conscience. And as I rationalized before, getting free music is akin to borrowing the CD from your friend, except you've never met them.

[Ifreann]

Admitting a crime online doesn't seem too bright.

Everyone knows there are no laws online. It's like international waters.

Meh, I'm not too worried. I don't think I'd get arrested for it, and at worst I'd probably have to pay a fine and delete the files, or pay for the games legitimately.

You obviously haven't paid attention to any of the cases of people getting brought to court over pirating music. People have been ordered to pay tens of thousands per song.

[Intangelon]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You who rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

Nope, I don't really have much of a conscience. And as I rationalized before, getting free music is akin to borrowing the CD from your friend, except you've never met them.

Borrowing implies returning. You've not returned anything. You've stolen. If your conscience allows you to sidestep the proper channels and procedures for paying for what you take, what's next? You are a thief. You cannot, and should not, be trusted. If I could out you to your family and your community, believe me, I would.

[Indeos]

Admitting a crime online doesn't seem too bright.

Everyone knows there are no laws online. It's like international waters.

Meh, I'm not too worried. I don't think I'd get arrested for it, and at worst I'd probably have to pay a fine and delete the files, or pay for the games legitimately.

You obviously haven't paid attention to any of the cases of people getting brought to court over pirating music. People have been ordered to pay tens of thousands per song.

No, I haven't been paying attention. But I don't think Cage the Elephant, Billy Joel, Basshunter, Gorillaz, and The Doors are gonna take me to court.

[Indeos]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You who rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

Nope, I don't really have much of a conscience. And as I rationalized before, getting free music is akin to borrowing the CD from your friend, except you've never met them.

Borrowing implies returning. You've not returned anything. You've stolen. If your conscience allows you to sidestep the proper channels and procedures for paying for what you take, what's next? You are a thief. You cannot, and should not, be trusted. If I could out you to your family and your community, believe me, I would.

Most of my family and friends know. And borrowing a CD, for me, implies adding it to my iTunes library, which is all I do with pirated music.

[Ifreann]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You who rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

Nope, I don't really have much of a conscience. And as I rationalized before, getting free music is akin to borrowing the CD from your friend, except you've never met them.

Borrowing implies returning. You've not returned anything. You've stolen. If your conscience allows you to sidestep the proper channels and procedures for paying for what you take, what's next? You are a thief. You cannot, and should not, be trusted. If I could out you to your family and your community, believe me, I would.

Theft/robbery/stealing implies someone is being deprived of what was thieved/robbed/stolen.

[Intangelon]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You who rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

Nope, I don't really have much of a conscience. And as I rationalized before, getting free music is akin to borrowing the CD from your friend, except you've never met them.

Borrowing implies returning. You've not returned anything. You've stolen. If your conscience allows you to sidestep the proper channels and procedures for paying for what you take, what's next? You are a thief. You cannot, and should not, be trusted. If I could out you to your family and your community, believe me, I would.

Most of my family and friends know. And borrowing a CD, for me, implies adding it to my iTunes library, which is all I do with pirated music.

Which means that you have no respect or consideration for the bands you claim to like. It's easy to say that Billy Joel doesn't need the money, but what of the unpopular or unheard-of bands in your collection? Fuck them, I guess. Their fault for being artists and daring to drum up support and interest by using the Internet for self-promotion so thieves like you could pirate their music and deny them even the small royalty they're owed.

I don't expect to be able to convince you of anything, as you're clearly in the "me-first" solipsistic phase of your youth. I'll just remember that karma is neutral, but often quite fitting. You will get what you deserve, thief.

[Wilgrove]

I've only engaged in the practice once or twice. One of them was to play an emulator of a MMO that had their "official" servers go offline. Other than that my games are usually connected to something like Steam, so I pretty much have to prove that I brought the game, and any add ons to the game.

[Ifreann]

Admitting a crime online doesn't seem too bright.

Everyone knows there are no laws online. It's like international waters.

Meh, I'm not too worried. I don't think I'd get arrested for it, and at worst I'd probably have to pay a fine and delete the files, or pay for the games legitimately.

You obviously haven't paid attention to any of the cases of people getting brought to court over pirating music. People have been ordered to pay tens of thousands per song.

No, I haven't been paying attention. But I don't think Cage the Elephant, Billy Joel, Basshunter, Gorillaz, and The Doors are gonna take me to court.

They wouldn't be the ones taking you to court. It would be the recording company/companies, I believe.

[Indeos]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You who rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

Nope, I don't really have much of a conscience. And as I rationalized before, getting free music is akin to borrowing the CD from your friend, except you've never met them.

Borrowing implies returning. You've not returned anything. You've stolen. If your conscience allows you to sidestep the proper channels and procedures for paying for what you take, what's next? You are a thief. You cannot, and should not, be trusted. If I could out you to your family and your community, believe me, I would.

Theft/robbery/stealing implies someone is being deprived of what was thieved/robbed/stolen.

Technically, they're being deprived of the profit they would otherwise be making off the CD. I don't really feel bad about that, since most people don't pirate things, and therefore they still make good money.

[Sdaeriji]

Admitting a crime online doesn't seem too bright.

Everyone knows there are no laws online. It's like international waters.

Meh, I'm not too worried. I don't think I'd get arrested for it, and at worst I'd probably have to pay a fine and delete the files, or pay for the games legitimately.

You obviously haven't paid attention to any of the cases of people getting brought to court over pirating music. People have been ordered to pay tens of thousands per song.

No, I haven't been paying attention. But I don't think Cage the Elephant, Billy Joel, Basshunter, Gorillaz, and The Doors are gonna take me to court.

Cage the Elephant: signed to a subsidiary of EMI and Virgin Records
Billy Joel: signed to Columbia
Basshunter: signed to Warner
Gorillaz: signed to a subsidiary of EMI and Virgin Records
The Doors: rights owned by a subsidiary of Warner

[Tenuria]

I believe intellectual property laws are necessary, so I can't find myself agreeing with those who pirate for ideological reasons. On the other hand, I also believe that most companies that distribute software/music/games/movies/whatever overprice their products enormously and the actual creators get very little out of it, and don't generally approve of their marketing practices and so on.

I don't pirate anything and don't encourage others to (unless they live in countries where censorship and high taxation make it nearly impossible to get things legally), but I also wish media companies would distribute their products in ways that are more consumer- and creator-friendly, rather than primarily being of benefit to corporate executives who make millions of dollars anyway.

[Intangelon]

I've been pirating stuff for a while now, and I figured it was time to ask NS's opinion. So, what say you, my fellow nations, about pirating digital media, be it music, movies, or games?

I personally try not to do it, since it hurts the industry, but otherwise I don't care too much. Music isn't really a big deal, since one person with a CD or digital copy of it can supply their friends with it.

It's theft. You who rob from a whole string of people who produce, manage and create art and media. You're a thief, plain and simple. If you were coming here to try and ease your conscience, you've failed. You're a thief. You steal. You reap the benefits of consumption without paying for what you take. Period.

Nope, I don't really have much of a conscience. And as I rationalized before, getting free music is akin to borrowing the CD from your friend, except you've never met them.

Borrowing implies returning. You've not returned anything. You've stolen. If your conscience allows you to sidestep the proper channels and procedures for paying for what you take, what's next? You are a thief. You cannot, and should not, be trusted. If I could out you to your family and your community, believe me, I would.

Theft/robbery/stealing implies someone is being deprived of what was thieved/robbed/stolen.

Exactly. That would be the royalty or (if it's a live, pirated recording), a fraction of gate receipts. Sorry, but I've lived the life of being expected to survive on compliments and the occasional free meal as a gigging musician. It's bullshit. You like what an artist does? Support them. Either in-kind or directly by paying them what's due, donating at a museum, or in some small way making sure they get a slice of what they've earned with their work.

[Birnadia]

So? It's not like Nintendo is getting money off of them anymore.

*headdesk*

[Keldon Warriors]

I'm willing to admit that is theft (because it is)
I'm also willing to admit I don't care.
Unless the victim is at risk of starving, I can still sleep at night

[UberWeegeeia]

So? It's not like Nintendo is getting money off of them anymore.

*headdesk*

Yeah, it's not like everybody can get Duke 64 on VC, and Duke Nukem Zero Hour on there.
That, and my Wii won't connect to the internet for whatever reason.