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Louis Van Boxel Woolf
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Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Louis Van Boxel Woolf » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:47 am

Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUMhGZhOP8w

And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6THfDGy1hN4&feature=related

This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcBWoZY8lHM

They all demonstrate how the Police widely abuse their power in Britain and how political freedoms are slowly being curtailed! I think this is disgusting!
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Video 1. The innocent man walking away is called Ian Tomlinson, he was pushed over, he later died of internal bleeding! Yet that policeman is currently still working in the Police Force, he has not been prosecuted! If i commited mansluaghter (2nd degree murder to you Americans) i would have ATLEAST gone to jail for a month, that Policeman is walking way free.
Video 2. The Policeman who hit the woman WILL NOT RECEIVE HIS BONUS as a punishment! The Police also said peaceful protestors could leave police lines or "kettles" if they wanted to or if they needed medical help, could she leave? No! And when she tried she was hit to the ground! And look at this man who needs medical help:
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Are the Police letting him through?
Video 3. The man hit with a shield now has brain damage, that policeman was not punished at all!
Look at this!

Oh dear!
And policeman removed their ID tags so people could not complain about them! I am disgusted, but what is your opinion?
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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:51 am

Of course there too harsh...They were the english police for god sakes...they do the same at football matches.

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby United Russian State » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:56 am

They have a tough and stressful job. If they say "get back" or something and you don't expect some punishment.
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Postby Scarsaw » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:57 am

United Russian State wrote:They have a tough and stressful job. If they say "get back" or something and you don't expect some punishment.


Agreed.
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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Muratonia » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:01 pm

They're doing their job its tough, stressful and aggressive if people don't fuck around in the first place stuff like that wouldn't happen.
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Postby Free Soviets » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:03 pm

United Russian State wrote:They have a tough and stressful job.

aww, poor babies

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby GetBert » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:05 pm

Police brutality is not acceptable, but it also isn't that common.

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Postby Codawa » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:06 pm

Looks like a protest got out of hand. The police only do what they are told over the radio. Just think about how stressfull that job would be in a big city. :o

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Postby Chrobalta » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:07 pm

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:11 pm

They used a technique called kettling, where they keep people in one place (a large group of people)...they had no toilets or places to get water.

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Nineteen Halves » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:12 pm

United Russian State wrote:They have a tough and stressful job. If they say "get back" or something and you don't expect some punishment.


This is not even a sentence.

What you are saying is that we should always defer to the government without thinking? (Not to take it to its logical extreme or anything.)

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Yootopia » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:12 pm

Louis Van Boxel Woolf wrote:Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUMhGZhOP8w

And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6THfDGy1hN4&feature=related

This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcBWoZY8lHM

They all demonstrate how the Police widely abuse their power in Britain and how political freedoms are slowly being curtailed! I think this is disgusting!

Eh they have a bloody hard job, and with thousands of people shouting at them and such, as well as them getting absolutely no good coverage in the press, it'd be hard not to be tempted to punch a few protestors in the face tbqh. One guy died due to police 'brutality' out of tens of thousands - overall they did pretty well I think.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:21 pm

I love the police...I always wave at them..they never wave back :( .
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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Fnordgasm 5 » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:22 pm

Yootopia wrote:
Louis Van Boxel Woolf wrote:Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUMhGZhOP8w

And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6THfDGy1hN4&feature=related

This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcBWoZY8lHM

They all demonstrate how the Police widely abuse their power in Britain and how political freedoms are slowly being curtailed! I think this is disgusting!

Eh they have a bloody hard job, and with thousands of people shouting at them and such, as well as them getting absolutely no good coverage in the press, it'd be hard not to be tempted to punch a few protestors in the face tbqh. One guy died due to police 'brutality' out of tens of thousands - overall they did pretty well I think.


I don't know, I think that being held against my will without access to toilets or water as well as being denied my right to protest would make me kinda angry..
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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby United Russian State » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:24 pm

Nineteen Halves wrote:
United Russian State wrote:They have a tough and stressful job. If they say "get back" or something and you don't expect some punishment.


This is not even a sentence.

What you are saying is that we should always defer to the government without thinking? (Not to take it to its logical extreme or anything.)


I don't see how it is not a sentence, but I wouldn't care if it is or not. Anyone can see what I was saying.

No. What I am saying is if you ignore orders from police, they have the right to use force. They are dealing with a large number of people who many are aggresive. Under that much streess I would expect that to happen.
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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:26 pm

Nineteen Halves wrote:
United Russian State wrote:They have a tough and stressful job. If they say "get back" or something and you don't expect some punishment.


This is not even a sentence.

What you are saying is that we should always defer to the government without thinking? (Not to take it to its logical extreme or anything.)



Makes sense enough to me.

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Praetonia » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:28 pm

Like many on this thread I am heartily in favour of brutality and believe that anyone who does not prostrate themselves before the august servants of the God-State should welcome the vicious beating they so richly deserve.

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Fnordgasm 5 » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:28 pm

United Russian State wrote:
Nineteen Halves wrote:
United Russian State wrote:They have a tough and stressful job. If they say "get back" or something and you don't expect some punishment.


This is not even a sentence.

What you are saying is that we should always defer to the government without thinking? (Not to take it to its logical extreme or anything.)


I don't see how it is not a sentence, but I wouldn't care if it is or not. Anyone can see what I was saying.

No. What I am saying is if you ignore orders from police, they have the right to use force. They are dealing with a large number of people who many are aggresive. Under that much streess I would expect that to happen.


You mean people they'd rounded up and forced to stay in the same spot with no just cause?
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Postby Muratonia » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:28 pm

Free Soviets wrote:
United Russian State wrote:They have a tough and stressful job.

aww, poor babies


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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Reavani » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:28 pm

Well, of course English police are going to start getting out of hand.

You're getting anti-stab knives

and you don't have guns from what I hear

So you can't fight back when England goes into a totalitarian iron fisted Police state.


I however can...


Because I'm American like that.

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Yootopia » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:29 pm

Fnordgasm 5 wrote:I don't know, I think that being held against my will without access to toilets or water as well as being denied my right to protest would make me kinda angry..

Eh people could leave the police kettles down designated routes. The people who pissed on themselves or complained about lacking food and water were making themselves martyrs to a bankrupt cause.
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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:31 pm

Reavani wrote:Well, of course English police are going to start getting out of hand.

You're getting anti-stab knives

and you don't have guns from what I hear

So you can't fight back when England goes into a totalitarian iron fisted Police state.


I however can...


Because I'm American like that.

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I'm glad we didn't have guns there...our precious police might have died somehow and thats not good is it? :evil:

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Postby Loria Aesir » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:32 pm

The British police have always been over the top in these situations. They love protests, riots and football violence. Just and excuse to beat on people and get away with it.
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Postby Yootopia » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:34 pm

Reavani wrote:Well, of course English police are going to start getting out of hand.

You're getting anti-stab knives

Erm?
and you don't have guns from what I hear

Eh farmers do, and it's not like it's hard to get a license for a shotgun or long-rifle. Nearly impossible to get a handgun, but then what are they really useful for other than shooting at people?
So you can't fight back when England goes into a totalitarian iron fisted Police state.

Absolutely pishing myself about this ALL THE TIME, aye. A protestor dies due to what was roundly seens as pretty bad policing tbqh, and OHSHIT our rights have vanished, redcoats come to shoot us for disagreeing with New Labour, we drop nukes on Ireland or something etc.
I however can...

Because I'm American like that.

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Re: Your stance on Police Brutality?

Postby Jordaxia » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:35 pm

I find it absolutely amazing that people here are essentially saying 'as long as you have irritated/disobeyed a police officer, they are allowed to assault you with no fear of consequence. I mean really? You understand that police officers are there to 'enforce the law' right? They can't just tell you what to do?

And the stressful job excuse? Yeah. They volunteered for a job to protect the people. If they use the power allocated to them to bully the people, I start to think maybe their goal was nothing more than a cover.

I'm sure that there are plenty of good police officers. But their superiors have got to stop covering the asses of officers who abuse their power. It's ruining the image of the police force.
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