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Postby Innsmothe » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:49 pm

Dododecapod wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:I actually don't recognise your religious flag.

Psuedo-Norse?


Looks like. the W for "Wotan" or "Woden", I would guess.



So psuedo-Norse.

Then again As long as you die in battle and pay reverance the Gods don;t seem to care what you do.

Though I would like to think they would support multiculturalism, due to the fact that even memers of the jotun were in the families of the Aesir and Vanir.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
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Postby Dododecapod » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:53 pm

Innsmothe wrote:
Dododecapod wrote:
Looks like. the W for "Wotan" or "Woden", I would guess.



So psuedo-Norse.

Then again As long as you die in battle and pay reverance the Gods don;t seem to care what you do.

Though I would like to think they would support multiculturalism, due to the fact that even memers of the jotun were in the families of the Aesir and Vanir.


I seem to recall that one of the sagas basically says it doesn't matter where a man comes from, if he wields a sword and dies with honor his place in Valhalla is assured. Been awhile since I read the norse stuff, though.
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Postby Innsmothe » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:00 pm

Dododecapod wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:

So psuedo-Norse.

Then again As long as you die in battle and pay reverance the Gods don;t seem to care what you do.

Though I would like to think they would support multiculturalism, due to the fact that even memers of the jotun were in the families of the Aesir and Vanir.


I seem to recall that one of the sagas basically says it doesn't matter where a man comes from, if he wields a sword and dies with honor his place in Valhalla is assured. Been awhile since I read the norse stuff, though.


'Tis basically why we allow most people to join, we have Indians, Moroccans, French and one drunk Greek.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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Postby Global Conspiracies » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:15 pm

Teccor wrote:Please correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked Jerusalem was Israeli territory, or at the very least an international zone. Israel has military forces there to defend her civilians who are being shot every single day by random unnamed people. Are jews the only ones being killed? Nope. Israel just seems to be the only nation in there defending her citizens.

EDIT: New laptop keyboard. Lots of typos. Haaate.


You're wrong. See the various UN Security Councils passed since 1967 {beginning with 242} enjoining Israel to stop altering the demographic makeup of Jerusalem. Check out a map of the East Jerusalem settlement areas over time. What they're defending is the annexation of territory that never before belonged to them. The question was are they attackers or defenders.

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Postby Newest Accord » Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:30 am

Innsmothe wrote:
Dododecapod wrote:
I seem to recall that one of the sagas basically says it doesn't matter where a man comes from, if he wields a sword and dies with honor his place in Valhalla is assured. Been awhile since I read the norse stuff, though.


'Tis basically why we allow most people to join, we have Indians, Moroccans, French and one drunk Greek.

Ok...that's pretty messed up. I've been busy. The Creativity flag definition is as follows:
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Postby Innsmothe » Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:40 am

Newest Accord wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:
'Tis basically why we allow most people to join, we have Indians, Moroccans, French and one drunk Greek.

Ok...that's pretty messed up. I've been busy. The Creativity flag definition is as follows:
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The "W" in our insignia stands for the noble White Race. The crown represents our unconditional right to supremacy in Nature's realm. The halo signifies purity of blood, and that we jealously regard our blood lines as the sacred value on the face of the earth.
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Okay,that's just stupid.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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Postby Apollonesia » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:13 am

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Postby Newest Accord » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:20 am

Apollonesia wrote:
Newest Accord wrote:Ok...that's pretty messed up. I've been busy. The Creativity flag definition is as follows:
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Hmm, I've never laughed this hard before... that's a good thing, because that's the biggest load of bollocks I've ever read. Stick to Stormfront, will you?

Whatever. Time will tell.
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Postby Innsmothe » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:24 am

Newest Accord wrote:
Apollonesia wrote:
Hmm, I've never laughed this hard before... that's a good thing, because that's the biggest load of bollocks I've ever read. Stick to Stormfront, will you?

Whatever. Time will tell.

Do you know how many 'blood traitors' there are nowadays?

You Ideals are doomed man.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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Postby Apollonesia » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:26 am

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Postby Reichskommissariat ost » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:32 am

They conquer an other nation without an reason, they deport the natives, they murder them. Jews are the clear agressors. Only argument against that is that their ''people'' were living there like thousand years ago.

Freedom to Palestine

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Postby Laerod » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:40 am

Apollonesia wrote:Ugh. Yes, give freedom to terrorists. Great idea, mate. Palestinians don't deserve anything because of what they do. Also, I advise you to refer to this particular group of Jews as Israelis. Otherwise, you're insulting my people.

Hypocrisy much? You're asking someone not to paint your people in broad strokes and yet you imply all Palestinians are terrorists?

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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:40 am

Apollonesia wrote:
Reichskommissariat ost wrote:They conquer an other nation without an reason, they deport the natives, they murder them. Jews are the clear agressors. Only argument against that is that their ''people'' were living there like thousand years ago.

Freedom to Palestine



Ugh. Yes, give freedom to terrorists. Great idea, mate. Palestinians don't deserve anything because of what they do. Also, I advise you to refer to this particular group of Jews as Israelis. Otherwise, you're insulting my people.

You mustn't give terrorists freedom. Kill 'em while they're young, while they're not even above ten, for security of Israel. Destroy their olive groves, destroy their homes, destroy their schools and hospitals, because all Palestinians are terrorists. Shoot the terrorist farmers and the terrorist workers. Shoot the journalists who have the nerve to film this. Israel is clearly in the right.
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Postby Innsmothe » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:43 am

Apollonesia wrote:
Reichskommissariat ost wrote:They conquer an other nation without an reason, they deport the natives, they murder them. Jews are the clear agressors. Only argument against that is that their ''people'' were living there like thousand years ago.

Freedom to Palestine



Ugh. Yes, give freedom to terrorists. Great idea, mate. Palestinians don't deserve anything because of what they do. Also, I advise you to refer to this particular group of Jews as Israelis. Otherwise, you're insulting my people.


Labeling all Palestinians as terrorists is like labeling all jews as Israelis.

It's insulting, Israel is a blight on the middle east. It damages the relations between the middle eastern and African states with the west.

For the good of those relations it must be allowed to fail.

I would not support their extermination, but those within the IDF and government, that support ideological genocide must be handed over to the Palestinians fpr punishment.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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Postby Reichskommissariat ost » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:49 am

Apollonesia wrote:
Reichskommissariat ost wrote:They conquer an other nation without an reason, they deport the natives, they murder them. Jews are the clear agressors. Only argument against that is that their ''people'' were living there like thousand years ago.

Freedom to Palestine



Ugh. Yes, give freedom to terrorists. Great idea, mate. Palestinians don't deserve anything because of what they do. Also, I advise you to refer to this particular group of Jews as Israelis. Otherwise, you're insulting my people.



Rather you are the terrorists, killing and murdering innocent people. I hope Iran gets its nukes.

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Postby Innsmothe » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:51 am

Reichskommissariat ost wrote:
Apollonesia wrote:

Ugh. Yes, give freedom to terrorists. Great idea, mate. Palestinians don't deserve anything because of what they do. Also, I advise you to refer to this particular group of Jews as Israelis. Otherwise, you're insulting my people.



Rather you are the terrorists, killing and murdering innocent people. I hope Iran gets its nukes.


While I support the ending of the israeli state, I don't support the threat of nuclear annihilation..

Even if there is no proof Iran is building nuclear weapons.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:54 am

Innsmothe wrote:
Reichskommissariat ost wrote:

Rather you are the terrorists, killing and murdering innocent people. I hope Iran gets its nukes.


While I support the ending of the israeli state, I don't support the threat of nuclear annihilation..

Even if there is no proof Iran is building nuclear weapons.

If Israel were to be peacefully dismantled, like the Neturei Karta suggest, it would be great.
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Who are the oppressors? The few: the King, the capitalist, and a handful of other overseers and superintendents. Who are the oppressed? The many: the nations of the earth; the valuable personages; the workers; they that make the bread that the soft-handed and idle eat. - Mark Twain

Nothing is more precious than Independence and Liberty. - Ho Chi Minh
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Postby Innsmothe » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:55 am

Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:
While I support the ending of the israeli state, I don't support the threat of nuclear annihilation..

Even if there is no proof Iran is building nuclear weapons.

If Israel were to be peacefully dismantled, like the Neturei Karta suggest, it would be great.


As-Salamu Alaykum *nods*
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:00 am

Innsmothe wrote:
Islamic Hazarastan wrote:If Israel were to be peacefully dismantled, like the Neturei Karta suggest, it would be great.


As-Salamu Alaykum *nods*

Walaykum As-salam :)
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Who are the oppressors? The few: the King, the capitalist, and a handful of other overseers and superintendents. Who are the oppressed? The many: the nations of the earth; the valuable personages; the workers; they that make the bread that the soft-handed and idle eat. - Mark Twain

Nothing is more precious than Independence and Liberty. - Ho Chi Minh
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Postby Apollonesia » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:18 am

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Postby Innsmothe » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:18 am

Apollonesia wrote:
Laerod wrote:Hypocrisy much? You're asking someone not to paint your people in broad strokes and yet you imply all Palestinians are terrorists?



Ugh. I didn't want to explain in depth because I discuss this subject so often... it's tiring. Of course Palestinians aren't all terrorists. They aren't all hateful or violent, either. However, you're ignoring the actions of the Palestinians and completely blaming Israelis... that's wrong. Also, they murder innocent farmers, etc.? Hmm, strange. Please post proof. Whatever Israelis do that is questionable overshadows the actions of everyone else; not because Israel's actions are worse, but because people are overly-sympathetic to the Arabs. That shouldn't be. Both sides are at fault in Israel, even though Israelis were provoked.

Provocation is no cause for genocide.(or at least indiscriminate murder.)
I thought my semite brothers would understand that. :lol:
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ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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Postby Apollonesia » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:23 am

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Postby Innsmothe » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:27 am

Apollonesia wrote:You are not a Jew. You're a disgrace, no offense. GENOCIDE? Let's exaggerate a bit, shall we?


I may not believe in the Godof the Jews, but i am semitic by blood. :eyebrow:

And I did ammend my post, indiscrimate murder of the palestinian people could easily bee seen as racial cleanising to some of the more 'sensitive people'.

But my personal belief whatever the murders are classed as, is that Israel is discrace and an insult to everything the semitic race suffered in world war II.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

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