Good for Obama!!!

[Just Mike]

He's a socialist white-hating tyrant, nothing he does is good

Considering that's the only thing you've been posting about around here so far, how about backing it up with some actual facts?

He's socialist because he nationalised some of america's biggest corporations and more with the stimulus, destorying property rights. and he hates white people

[Brewdomia]

He's a socialist white-hating tyrant, nothing he does is good

Considering that's the only thing you've been posting about around here so far, how about backing it up with some actual facts?

He's socialist because he nationalised some of america's biggest corporations and more with the stimulus, destorying property rights. and he hates white people

Who sells you your LSD?

[Allrule]

He's a socialist white-hating tyrant, nothing he does is good

Considering that's the only thing you've been posting about around here so far, how about backing it up with some actual facts?

He's socialist because he nationalised some of america's biggest corporations and more with the stimulus, destorying property rights. and he hates white people

World Net Daily. Very reliable.
BTW, can I have some of the stuff you're smoking? It sounds good.

[Zephie]

He's a socialist white-hating tyrant, nothing he does is good

Considering that's the only thing you've been posting about around here so far, how about backing it up with some actual facts?

He's socialist because he nationalised some of america's biggest corporations and more with the stimulus, destorying property rights. and he hates white people

World Net Daily. Very reliable.
BTW, can I have some of the stuff you're smoking? It sounds good.

Wut? GM was nationalized. I don't know any other examples.

[Xsyne]

He's a socialist white-hating tyrant, nothing he does is good

Considering that's the only thing you've been posting about around here so far, how about backing it up with some actual facts?

He's socialist because he nationalised some of america's biggest corporations and more with the stimulus, destorying property rights. and he hates white people

I think you're confusing the bailouts with the stimulus.

On that note, I'm not entirely sure how loans equate to nationalization.

Everyone here does know that the bailout money wasn't just given away, right? You know that the bailouts were actually loans, albeit ones larger than those normally issued by a governmental body, right? You know the difference between loaning and giving, right? I'd hate to see someone walk in here and start talking about an issue they don't know anything about.

[East Fancainia]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

This

[Intangelon]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

^This.
I seriously doubt he'll ever be able to effectively run the country, except into the ground.

Yeah, 'cause the last few Administrations have all done SUCH a bang-up job.

When will the American electorate realize that anyone who WANTS the job should in no way be allowed to HAVE it? You have to be a weaselly overcompromising scumbag to even get nominated, let alone elected. The problem is the perception that the President can change anything by fiat.

[Lerro]

"I dare you to find one economist on the planet who would say that a decrease in the amount of money circulating in the economy would be of benefit during a recession."


A decrease of money? The Government has to take that money from somewhere. It doesn't create money, it just shuffles it around.

[Intangelon]

He's a socialist white-hating tyrant, nothing he does is good

Considering that's the only thing you've been posting about around here so far, how about backing it up with some actual facts?

He's socialist because he nationalised some of america's biggest corporations and more with the stimulus, destorying property rights. and he hates white people

I think you're confusing the bailouts with the stimulus.

On that note, I'm not entirely sure how loans equate to nationalization.

Everyone here does know that the bailout money wasn't just given away, right? You know that the bailouts were actually loans, albeit ones larger than those normally issued by a governmental body, right? You know the difference between loaning and giving, right? I'd hate to see someone walk in here and start talking about an issue they don't know anything about.

Holy Frosted Monkey Balls, are YOU in the wrong forum!

[Zephie]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

^This.
I seriously doubt he'll ever be able to effectively run the country, except into the ground.

Yeah, 'cause the last few Administrations have all done SUCH a bang-up job.

When will the American electorate realize that anyone who WANTS the job should in no way be allowed to HAVE it? You have to be a weaselly overcompromising scumbag to even get nominated, let alone elected. The problem is the perception that the President can change anything by fiat.

Wut? It's pretty pathetic when a candidate has to rely on blaming the last president. Then when people don't like the new president they are labeled racists.

Unless Bush made Obama sign the stimulus, health care bill, and renew the patriot act - you can't blame it on Bush.

[Zephie]

"I dare you to find one economist on the planet who would say that a decrease in the amount of money circulating in the economy would be of benefit during a recession."


A decrease of money? The Government has to take that money from somewhere. It doesn't create money, it just shuffles it around.

Wut? If I'm paying the bills and because of higher taxes I can't buy as much food when I go shopping as I used to, the store loses business, and when enough people shop less, they need to start lowering wages or just lay off workers, then those people are out of a job and start collecting unemployment or eventually welfare, then the store stops ordering as much food, then the companies that would freight food to the store are losing business. Then that company buys less ingredients and materials they need for their lines because the demand is less and possibly lays off workers. Then the companies that supply those materials lose out on business and possibly lays off workers. Then banks don't get money back, they seize property because people aren't working and can't pay their mortgage, then they still don't get the money because barely anyone has money to buy that house, so it just sits there. And it goes on and on.

[Lerro]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

^This.
I seriously doubt he'll ever be able to effectively run the country, except into the ground.

Yeah, 'cause the last few Administrations have all done SUCH a bang-up job.

When will the American electorate realize that anyone who WANTS the job should in no way be allowed to HAVE it? You have to be a weaselly overcompromising scumbag to even get nominated, let alone elected. The problem is the perception that the President can change anything by fiat.

Wut? It's pretty pathetic when a candidate has to rely on blaming the last president. Then when people don't like the new president they are labeled racists.

Unless Bush made Obama sign the stimulus, health care bill, and renew the patriot act - you can't blame it on Bush.

Of course you can. Obama actually said Scott Brown was elected because of, "not just because of what's happened in the last year or two years, but what's happened over the last eight years." In other words, he blamed Bush. If you can blame Bush for Brown's victory, you can blame Bush for anything.

[Geniasis]

Wut? It's pretty pathetic when a candidate has to rely on blaming the last president. Then when people don't like the new president they are labeled racists.

Unless Bush made Obama sign the stimulus, health care bill, and renew the patriot act - you can't blame it on Bush.

There's nothing pathetic with assigning blame where it is due. The truth is that several of our problems were inherited from Bush.

[Lerro]

"I dare you to find one economist on the planet who would say that a decrease in the amount of money circulating in the economy would be of benefit during a recession."


A decrease of money? The Government has to take that money from somewhere. It doesn't create money, it just shuffles it around.

Wut? If I'm paying the bills and because of higher taxes I can't buy as much food when I go shopping as I used to, the store loses business, and when enough people shop less, they need to start lowering wages or just lay off workers, then those people are out of a job and start collecting unemployment or eventually welfare, then the store stops ordering as much food, then the companies that would freight food to the store are losing business. Then that company buys less ingredients and materials they need for their lines because the demand is less and possibly lays off workers. Then the companies that supply those materials lose out on business and possibly lays off workers. Then banks don't get money back, they seize property because people aren't working and can't pay their mortgage, then they still don't get the money because barely anyone has money to buy that house, so it just sits there. And it goes on and on.

Exactly. I agree that higher taxes are a detriment. I want lower government spending.

[Ashmoria]

"I dare you to find one economist on the planet who would say that a decrease in the amount of money circulating in the economy would be of benefit during a recession."


A decrease of money? The Government has to take that money from somewhere. It doesn't create money, it just shuffles it around.

huh?

the govt creates money all the time.

[Zephie]

Wut? It's pretty pathetic when a candidate has to rely on blaming the last president. Then when people don't like the new president they are labeled racists.

Unless Bush made Obama sign the stimulus, health care bill, and renew the patriot act - you can't blame it on Bush.

There's nothing pathetic with assigning blame where it is due. The truth is that several of our problems were inherited from Bush.

The argument fails. I will explain why.
1 Patriot act: a complete violation of our constitutional rights.
Bush signs it. Obama becomes president. Obama renews it. Bush didn't force Obama to sign that legislation.

2 Stimulus. Do you remember the original Bush stimulus? Yeah. Obama signed a second one. Bush didn't force him to do this either.

3 The occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Bush started the wars, sure. But is Obama ending them? Nope. Is Bush forcing Obama to continue them? Hell no.

Which leads me to the conclusion they work for the same people.

[Ashmoria]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

^This.
I seriously doubt he'll ever be able to effectively run the country, except into the ground.

Yeah, 'cause the last few Administrations have all done SUCH a bang-up job.

When will the American electorate realize that anyone who WANTS the job should in no way be allowed to HAVE it? You have to be a weaselly overcompromising scumbag to even get nominated, let alone elected. The problem is the perception that the President can change anything by fiat.

Wut? It's pretty pathetic when a candidate has to rely on blaming the last president. Then when people don't like the new president they are labeled racists.

Unless Bush made Obama sign the stimulus, health care bill, and renew the patriot act - you can't blame it on Bush.

its an american tradition to blame the last administration.

[Lerro]

Wut? It's pretty pathetic when a candidate has to rely on blaming the last president. Then when people don't like the new president they are labeled racists.

Unless Bush made Obama sign the stimulus, health care bill, and renew the patriot act - you can't blame it on Bush.

There's nothing pathetic with assigning blame where it is due. The truth is that several of our problems were inherited from Bush.

Obama has retained none of Bush's virtues, and all of his flaws. We're eighteen months in a recession, if this was a downturn treated with conservative policies, such as the Depression of 1920-21, it'd be over by now. Besides, Obama actually hasn't done anything to solve the problems he "inherited". Indeed, when it comes to the deficit, he voted (as senator) for every dollar of deficit spending he "inherited" as president.

[Zephie]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

^This.
I seriously doubt he'll ever be able to effectively run the country, except into the ground.

Yeah, 'cause the last few Administrations have all done SUCH a bang-up job.

When will the American electorate realize that anyone who WANTS the job should in no way be allowed to HAVE it? You have to be a weaselly overcompromising scumbag to even get nominated, let alone elected. The problem is the perception that the President can change anything by fiat.

Wut? It's pretty pathetic when a candidate has to rely on blaming the last president. Then when people don't like the new president they are labeled racists.

Unless Bush made Obama sign the stimulus, health care bill, and renew the patriot act - you can't blame it on Bush.

its an american tradition to blame the last administration.

I don't remember people blaming Clinton for anything during Bush's administration.

[Geniasis]

The argument fails. I will explain why.

I look forward to the post where you do that.

1 Patriot act: a complete violation of our constitutional rights.
Bush signs it. Obama becomes president. Obama renews it. Bush didn't force Obama to sign that legislation.

2 Stimulus. Do you remember the original Bush stimulus? Yeah. Obama signed a second one. Bush didn't force him to do this either.

3 The occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Bush started the wars, sure. But is Obama ending them? Nope. Is Bush forcing Obama to continue them? Hell no.

Which leads me to the conclusion they work for the same people.

The Patriot Act? Yeah, it's a bad thing. I'll admit that.

Iraq? Obama is ending military operations over there. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than what we had.

At any rate, the recession was caused by economic practices and took place on Bush's watch. Do you deny this?

[Zephie]

The argument fails. I will explain why.

I look forward to the post where you do that.

1 Patriot act: a complete violation of our constitutional rights.
Bush signs it. Obama becomes president. Obama renews it. Bush didn't force Obama to sign that legislation.

2 Stimulus. Do you remember the original Bush stimulus? Yeah. Obama signed a second one. Bush didn't force him to do this either.

3 The occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Bush started the wars, sure. But is Obama ending them? Nope. Is Bush forcing Obama to continue them? Hell no.

Which leads me to the conclusion they work for the same people.

The Patriot Act? Yeah, it's a bad thing. I'll admit that.

Iraq? Obama is ending military operations over there. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than what we had.

At any rate, the recession was caused by economic practices and took place on Bush's watch. Do you deny this?

No he's not. That last news bit that said he pulled out the last of the "combat troops"... they ended up in Kuwait I believe, they aren't actually home. Then what are all the remaining troops called? Occupational troops? That's still occupying the country, the fighting has been over for years.
No I am not saying Bush didn't hinder the economy, but Obama is continuing the Bush policies that is continuing to destroy the economy, so you can't hide under the Bush veil when Obama is doing exactly the same thing as Bush.

[Lerro]

The argument fails. I will explain why.

I look forward to the post where you do that.

1 Patriot act: a complete violation of our constitutional rights.
Bush signs it. Obama becomes president. Obama renews it. Bush didn't force Obama to sign that legislation.

2 Stimulus. Do you remember the original Bush stimulus? Yeah. Obama signed a second one. Bush didn't force him to do this either.

3 The occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Bush started the wars, sure. But is Obama ending them? Nope. Is Bush forcing Obama to continue them? Hell no.

Which leads me to the conclusion they work for the same people.

The Patriot Act? Yeah, it's a bad thing. I'll admit that.

Iraq? Obama is ending military operations over there. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than what we had.

At any rate, the recession was caused by economic practices and took place on Bush's watch. Do you deny this?

"Iraq? Obama is ending military operations over there. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than what we had."

Yeah he ended it, except for the fifty thousand soldiers with guns and tanks we have over there. No more armed presence in Iraq. Nope.

"At any rate, the recession was caused by economic practices and took place on Bush's watch. Do you deny this?"

I agree that the recession was called by generic "economic practices". Sure. "took place on Bush's watch" Took place on the watch of a Democratic Congress.

[Rudfud]

wrong button

[Ashmoria]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

^This.
I seriously doubt he'll ever be able to effectively run the country, except into the ground.

Yeah, 'cause the last few Administrations have all done SUCH a bang-up job.

When will the American electorate realize that anyone who WANTS the job should in no way be allowed to HAVE it? You have to be a weaselly overcompromising scumbag to even get nominated, let alone elected. The problem is the perception that the President can change anything by fiat.

Wut? It's pretty pathetic when a candidate has to rely on blaming the last president. Then when people don't like the new president they are labeled racists.

Unless Bush made Obama sign the stimulus, health care bill, and renew the patriot act - you can't blame it on Bush.

its an american tradition to blame the last administration.

I don't remember people blaming Clinton for anything during Bush's administration.

hahahahaahaha

you must have been in grade school then.

[Digbetamania]

Speaking from an [outside] british point of view obama is great generally the only people who think he isnt are rightwing republicans. As palin said "i dont want to give my baby to obamas death service" referring to his free healthcare in britain we have free healthcare and a longer life expetancy, generally hes done good.