Good for Obama!!!

[Galactic Sapian]

I seriously doubt he'll ever be able to effectively run the country, except into the ground.

This explains why the USA is still the largest economy in the world, has recovered from the Recession and isn't in the middle of a revolution with the streets running red with blood.

Go to Uzbekistan and see what it looks like when a leader is running their country into the ground. Until then, keep your partisan bullshit to yourself.

yeah, because Obama totally made the US economy the largest in the world, he got us out of the recession (even though the recession isn't even over and unemployment keeps going up), and saved america from a revolution....

Actually WW2 made us the largest economy in the world seeing since most of the rest of the industrialized world had been bombed to smithereens.

so America's economy wasn't important to the rest of the world before 1939? (sarcasm) One of the worlds largest suppliers of timber, large gold and silver deposits, tobacco, oil, and cotton was COMPLETELY ignored from 1492 to 1939....
I'm speaking about america's land in general; now think, if it has all those resources and essentials, and that land was turned into a nation, wouldn't it's economy be equally essential to the world economy? Surely you're making no true point in what your saying.

[Macht der Ewigkeit]

Forcing equality in a society where people are motivated to better them selves is a mistake that is all i am saying. If I'm better at a job than another then i should get the raise weather i am black white Asian Latin or whatever. We hurt our selves and the spirit of free competition if we require others to take handicaps.

[Grave_n_idle]

during world war 2 we ended up occupying Germany and japan and if we pulled out of either country before the appropriate time Germany would be Russian and japan would have probably fell to china or Russia. Well here we are and guess what we are still in Germany and still in Japan, not bad considering we rebuilt both nations and they now have some of the strongest economies in the world. When it comes to going into Iraq well who else was going to prevent a oppressive government from slaughtering its neighbors or even some 30k of its own people for just being different.

Not sure what the relevance is... but, are you seriously making an argument that defends American intervention, anywhere, any time... based on an argument that it's 'good for them'?

not exactly what i was saying. I was saying that we are responsible for what has happened to them because in 1991 we helped Iran fight off Iraq and told its people that we would free them from their dictatorship. When we pulled out a great many Iraqi people were killed just for wanting to make their own choices. We were responsible and are still responsible. If we pull out to early we make another Afghanistan and thousands more American hating people.

Wait.. .what? What happened between Iran and Iraq in 1991?

[Hammurab]

during world war 2 we ended up occupying Germany and japan and if we pulled out of either country before the appropriate time Germany would be Russian and japan would have probably fell to china or Russia. Well here we are and guess what we are still in Germany and still in Japan, not bad considering we rebuilt both nations and they now have some of the strongest economies in the world. When it comes to going into Iraq well who else was going to prevent a oppressive government from slaughtering its neighbors or even some 30k of its own people for just being different.

Not sure what the relevance is... but, are you seriously making an argument that defends American intervention, anywhere, any time... based on an argument that it's 'good for them'?

not exactly what i was saying. I was saying that we are responsible for what has happened to them because in 1991 we helped Iran fight off Iraq and told its people that we would free them from their dictatorship. When we pulled out a great many Iraqi people were killed just for wanting to make their own choices. We were responsible and are still responsible. If we pull out to early we make another Afghanistan and thousands more American hating people.

Wait.. .what? What happened between Iran and Iraq in 1991?

Apparently, we helped "Iran fight off Iraq", which is good, because if we hadn't, who knows what the Kuwaitis would have done in their war against Australia.

[Grave_n_idle]

during world war 2 we ended up occupying Germany and japan and if we pulled out of either country before the appropriate time Germany would be Russian and japan would have probably fell to china or Russia. Well here we are and guess what we are still in Germany and still in Japan, not bad considering we rebuilt both nations and they now have some of the strongest economies in the world. When it comes to going into Iraq well who else was going to prevent a oppressive government from slaughtering its neighbors or even some 30k of its own people for just being different.

Not sure what the relevance is... but, are you seriously making an argument that defends American intervention, anywhere, any time... based on an argument that it's 'good for them'?

not exactly what i was saying. I was saying that we are responsible for what has happened to them because in 1991 we helped Iran fight off Iraq and told its people that we would free them from their dictatorship. When we pulled out a great many Iraqi people were killed just for wanting to make their own choices. We were responsible and are still responsible. If we pull out to early we make another Afghanistan and thousands more American hating people.

Wait.. .what? What happened between Iran and Iraq in 1991?

Apparently, we helped "Iran fight off Iraq", which is good, because if we hadn't, who knows what the Kuwaitis would have done in their war against Australia.

I'm confused. I thought 1991 was the year the monkeymen invaded Disneyland.

[Grave_n_idle]

Forcing equality in a society where people are motivated to better them selves is a mistake that is all i am saying. If I'm better at a job than another then i should get the raise weather i am black white Asian Latin or whatever. We hurt our selves and the spirit of free competition if we require others to take handicaps.

You're just making random stuff up now, aren't you?

[Macht der Ewigkeit]

Forcing equality in a society where people are motivated to better them selves is a mistake that is all i am saying. If I'm better at a job than another then i should get the raise weather i am black white Asian Latin or whatever. We hurt our selves and the spirit of free competition if we require others to take handicaps.

You're just making random stuff up now, aren't you?

I guess your ok with mass murder, genocide, religious cleansing by killing innocents. or you just don't read history. i also take it from lack of actual opinion and rather uncivilized manner that you like to argue rather than have a constructive debate. If you want to know what happened in the 1980's and 1990's and why we want to war in the first place you can read it in any place titled Iraq Iran war. that is if you even bother reading non fiction at all.

[Grave_n_idle]

Forcing equality in a society where people are motivated to better them selves is a mistake that is all i am saying. If I'm better at a job than another then i should get the raise weather i am black white Asian Latin or whatever. We hurt our selves and the spirit of free competition if we require others to take handicaps.

You're just making random stuff up now, aren't you?

I guess your ok with mass murder, genocide, religious cleansing by killing innocents. or you just don't read history. i also take it from lack of actual opinion and rather uncivilized manner that you like to argue rather than have a constructive debate. If you want to know what happened in the 1980's and 1990's and why we want to war in the first place you can read it in any place titled Iraq Iran war. that is if you even bother reading non fiction at all.

How does that respond to your comments derailing discussion of affirmative action, by talking about raises?

Let's assume you're confused, and you somehow thought you were responding to something about the Iran/Iraq situation... you made an outlandish claim about intervention between Iraq and Iran (on behalf of Iran, apparently) in 1991. I'm curious as to what you think happened.

[Hammurab]

Forcing equality in a society where people are motivated to better them selves is a mistake that is all i am saying. If I'm better at a job than another then i should get the raise weather i am black white Asian Latin or whatever. We hurt our selves and the spirit of free competition if we require others to take handicaps.

You're just making random stuff up now, aren't you?

I guess your ok with mass murder, genocide, religious cleansing by killing innocents. or you just don't read history. i also take it from lack of actual opinion and rather uncivilized manner that you like to argue rather than have a constructive debate. If you want to know what happened in the 1980's and 1990's and why we want to war in the first place you can read it in any place titled Iraq Iran war. that is if you even bother reading non fiction at all.

So, you're claiming that in 1991, we "helped Iran fight off Iraq"?

And you think that in the Iraq/Iran war, we....helped Iran?

If there's any fiction being written, here...

[Macht der Ewigkeit]

hm no response on the mass murder comment interesting.

[Picklepoo]

hm no response on the mass murder comment interesting.

Because your making shit up.

[Grave_n_idle]

hm no response on the mass murder comment interesting.

Which mass murder in particular?

In general, I'd say I don't tend to approve of mass murder, per se - but since you seem to be talking about fictional events, I'm finding it hard to gauge an appropriate response.

[Hammurab]

hm no response on the mass murder comment interesting.

So...you're inferring that somebody is ignoring a central point, when all anyone has done is ask you to explain your premise that in 1991, we helped "Iran fight off Iraq"?

Do you want to just show some basic honesty and admit that perhaps you confused Kuwait with Iran, showing an utter lack of basic grasp of the regional period and its events?

[Macht der Ewigkeit]

Forcing equality in a society where people are motivated to better them selves is a mistake that is all i am saying. If I'm better at a job than another then i should get the raise weather i am black white Asian Latin or whatever. We hurt our selves and the spirit of free competition if we require others to take handicaps.

You're just making random stuff up now, aren't you?

I guess your ok with mass murder, genocide, religious cleansing by killing innocents. or you just don't read history. i also take it from lack of actual opinion and rather uncivilized manner that you like to argue rather than have a constructive debate. If you want to know what happened in the 1980's and 1990's and why we want to war in the first place you can read it in any place titled Iraq Iran war. that is if you even bother reading non fiction at all.

So, you're claiming that in 1991, we "helped Iran fight off Iraq"?

And you think that in the Iraq/Iran war, we....helped Iran?

If there's any fiction being written, here...

lol i was there i flew with Iranian fighter pilots defending their oil rigs. What do you think the war was over.

[Macht der Ewigkeit]

lets start another post to discuss this we have strayed from the main topic a bit. I will take blame for that

[Hammurab]

Forcing equality in a society where people are motivated to better them selves is a mistake that is all i am saying. If I'm better at a job than another then i should get the raise weather i am black white Asian Latin or whatever. We hurt our selves and the spirit of free competition if we require others to take handicaps.

You're just making random stuff up now, aren't you?

I guess your ok with mass murder, genocide, religious cleansing by killing innocents. or you just don't read history. i also take it from lack of actual opinion and rather uncivilized manner that you like to argue rather than have a constructive debate. If you want to know what happened in the 1980's and 1990's and why we want to war in the first place you can read it in any place titled Iraq Iran war. that is if you even bother reading non fiction at all.

So, you're claiming that in 1991, we "helped Iran fight off Iraq"?

And you think that in the Iraq/Iran war, we....helped Iran?

If there's any fiction being written, here...

lol i was there i flew with Iranian fighter pilots defending their oil rigs. What do you think the war was over.

So, now you claim to be a pilot, even though you have the communicative capacity of a poorly schooled adolescent?

Pilots are generally quite educated, especially combat pilots, and generally their ideas and the means by which they convey them reflect this.

Tell you what. Swear to me on your immortal soul that everything you've said here is true.

[Picklepoo]

lets start another post to discuss this we have strayed from the main topic a bit. I will take blame for that

Well at least you will admit something...

[Ebonya]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

like he´s not already doing that...

[Hammurab]

lets start another post to discuss this we have strayed from the main topic a bit. I will take blame for that

Yes, by all means lets start a thread on how "in 1991 we helped the Iranians fight off Iraq" as you claim.

Then even elementary schoolers who weren't born at the time can explain to you that it was Kuwait that was liberated by Western intervention.

[Grave_n_idle]

Forcing equality in a society where people are motivated to better them selves is a mistake that is all i am saying. If I'm better at a job than another then i should get the raise weather i am black white Asian Latin or whatever. We hurt our selves and the spirit of free competition if we require others to take handicaps.

You're just making random stuff up now, aren't you?

I guess your ok with mass murder, genocide, religious cleansing by killing innocents. or you just don't read history. i also take it from lack of actual opinion and rather uncivilized manner that you like to argue rather than have a constructive debate. If you want to know what happened in the 1980's and 1990's and why we want to war in the first place you can read it in any place titled Iraq Iran war. that is if you even bother reading non fiction at all.

So, you're claiming that in 1991, we "helped Iran fight off Iraq"?

And you think that in the Iraq/Iran war, we....helped Iran?

If there's any fiction being written, here...

lol i was there i flew with Iranian fighter pilots defending their oil rigs. What do you think the war was over.

Which war?

[Ebonya]

[/quote]
so America's economy wasn't important to the rest of the world before 1939? (sarcasm) One of the worlds largest suppliers of timber, large gold and silver deposits, tobacco, oil, and cotton was COMPLETELY ignored from 1492 to 1939....
I'm speaking about america's land in general; now think, if it has all those resources and essentials, and that land was turned into a nation, wouldn't it's economy be equally essential to the world economy? Surely you're making no true point in what your saying.[/quote]
yeah- with slave labor...

[Picklepoo]

Whoopee doo. Now if he could just run the country, we'd be all set.

like he´s not already doing that...

He meant it sarcastically, he has not helped the USA at all since he was elected.

[Czardas]

lets start another post to discuss this we have strayed from the main topic a bit. I will take blame for that

Yes, by all means lets start a thread on how "in 1991 we helped the Iranians fight off Iraq" as you claim.

Then even elementary schoolers who weren't born at the time can explain to you that it was Kuwait that was liberated by Western intervention.

Hold on, I need a delaying tactic which will allow me to deny your statement as false and claim victory through confusing the hell out of everyone. Source, please?

[Juristonia]

Which war?

The one he single-handedly won in his superduper aeroplane, of course.

This thread is comedy gold.

[Grave_n_idle]

Which war?

The one he single-handedly won in his superduper aeroplane, of course.

This thread is comedy gold.

This thread is confusing me. I'm thinking I should have gone to bed hours ago. Indeed, this thread is currently convincing me that maybe I did go to bed hours ago, and the cheese-based pre-sleep snack was a bad idea.