Well well well....

[Faith Hope Charity]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

[Holy Paradise]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

wow... look at the OP

OP

Yes, the OP made an assumption (not a generalization), not all posters with liberal views. If you had read the rest of this topic, you'd see that a number of both liberals and conservatives (like myself) have been taking him to task for it.

[Buffett and Colbert]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

And I think I'm pointing out the obvious too.

Funny how different opinions work, huh?

[Sailsia]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?

I believe, as you even said, that he was blaming rush and beck. What, now he's attack the ENTIRE right? Which one is it?

Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.

Which people? You're being very vague.

Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

I believe I have proved you aren't pointing any "thing" out, but rather EVERYTHING. I don't blame you though, it's easy to "win" a debate when you aren't being clear. THEN how could anyone call you on BS.

[Ashas Favor]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

And I think I'm pointing out the obvious too.

Funny how different opinions work, huh?

Funny thing about opinions...everyone has one, but they are not always right. lol

[Buffett and Colbert]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

And I think I'm pointing out the obvious too.

Funny how different opinions work, huh?

Funny thing about opinions...everyone has one, but they are not always right. lol

No shit?

[Sailsia]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

And I think I'm pointing out the obvious too.

Funny how different opinions work, huh?

Funny thing about opinions...everyone has one, but they are not always right. lol

An opinion is a lot like a question, you can't have a "wrong" one.

Opinions can be destructive, stupid, and/or incoherent, but saying a persons' opinion is "wrong" would require you to prove it. Thats something you haven't done yet.

[Faith Hope Charity]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

And I think I'm pointing out the obvious too.

Funny how different opinions work, huh?

Funny thing about opinions...everyone has one, but they are not always right. lol

An opinion is a lot like a question, you can't have a "wrong" one.

Opinions can be destructive, stupid, and/or incoherent, but saying a persons' opinion is "wrong" would require you to prove it. Thats something you haven't done yet.

Neither has anybody here apparently. This thread is just a buncha BS finger pointing, and thats what im saying... but feel free to jump down my throat some more, you seem to like it alot... making you feel better, or you got the rage going?

[Sailsia]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

And I think I'm pointing out the obvious too.

Funny how different opinions work, huh?

Funny thing about opinions...everyone has one, but they are not always right. lol

An opinion is a lot like a question, you can't have a "wrong" one.

Opinions can be destructive, stupid, and/or incoherent, but saying a persons' opinion is "wrong" would require you to prove it. Thats something you haven't done yet.

Neither has anybody here apparently. This thread is just a buncha BS finger pointing, and thats what im saying... but feel free to jump down my throat some more, you seem to like it alot... making you feel better, or you got the rage going?

If I didn't like debating, I would be on NSG, would I? I do't take anything on NS personally. (but that doesn't mean I won't show the same passion here that I would in RL)

[Ashas Favor]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

And I think I'm pointing out the obvious too.

Funny how different opinions work, huh?

Funny thing about opinions...everyone has one, but they are not always right. lol

An opinion is a lot like a question, you can't have a "wrong" one.

Opinions can be destructive, stupid, and/or incoherent, but saying a persons' opinion is "wrong" would require you to prove it. Thats something you haven't done yet.

I actually was not saying he was wrong, but either way...nice job with the whole jumping to conclusions things. Thats kinda like Buffet and Colbert jumped to a conclusion or an assumption when he assumed that this guy listened to "islamophobic" media and that had something to do with what he done. Considering that neither of us know whether he watched them or not, neither of us are wrong in that part. However, I can point to some statistics that lead you to believe that media has pretty much nothing to do with violent behavior...that is if you want to read it.

http://www.mediaed.org/Handouts/ChildrenMedia.pdf

Bullet number one states that media violence has increased, while at the same time bullet number five states that crime rates across america have fallen proportionate to a rise in media violence.

I also included the study of video game violence and it also has increased while violent crimes decreased. His "ASSUMPTION" holds no weight.

So, instead of jumping on the bandwagon...bring me some statistics or something to show what you are trying to argue. Also, while Buffet and Colbert does not really have a case in this debate; he is a very formidable debater and he can fend for himself.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Thats kinda like Buffet and Colbert jumped to a conclusion

Who's he?

or an assumption when he assumed that this guy listened to "islamophobic" media and that had something to do with what he done.

If you watch the news, you've watched the islamophobes. Practically all channels have had them on. I'm just going out on a limb and presuming he watches the news, listens to the radio, or reads the newspaper.

[Ashas Favor]

Thats kinda like Buffet and Colbert jumped to a conclusion

Who's he?

or an assumption when he assumed that this guy listened to "islamophobic" media and that had something to do with what he done.

If you watch the news, you've watched the islamophobes. Practically all channels have had them on. I'm just going out on a limb and presuming he watches the news, listens to the radio, or reads the newspaper.

1. Oh no, I was one letter off. I am pretty sure you are not 12, so act like it.

2. Still does not lead to him attacking a Muslim lol

[Buffett and Colbert]

1. Oh no, I was one letter off. I am pretty sure you are not 12, so act like it.

One letter makes a difference. I mean, if my name were Buffet and Colbert, one might think I'm French. Can't have that...

2. Still does not lead to him attacking a Muslim lol

It contributes to it. (And could you quit with the condescending "lol" at the end of your sentences? It's a little annoying.)

[Xsyne]

wow... look at the OP and then tell me that its not a generalization of the right being violent and crazy?
Before any proof is out, people are grasping at any straws pointing fingers.
Heaven forbid i point out the obvious.

And I think I'm pointing out the obvious too.

Funny how different opinions work, huh?

Funny thing about opinions...everyone has one, but they are not always right. lol

An opinion is a lot like a question, you can't have a "wrong" one.

Opinions can be destructive, stupid, and/or incoherent, but saying a persons' opinion is "wrong" would require you to prove it. Thats something you haven't done yet.

I actually was not saying he was wrong, but either way...nice job with the whole jumping to conclusions things. Thats kinda like Buffet and Colbert jumped to a conclusion or an assumption when he assumed that this guy listened to "islamophobic" media and that had something to do with what he done. Considering that neither of us know whether he watched them or not, neither of us are wrong in that part. However, I can point to some statistics that lead you to believe that media has pretty much nothing to do with violent behavior...that is if you want to read it.

http://www.mediaed.org/Handouts/ChildrenMedia.pdf

Bullet number one states that media violence has increased, while at the same time bullet number five states that crime rates across america have fallen proportionate to a rise in media violence.

I also included the study of video game violence and it also has increased while violent crimes decreased. His "ASSUMPTION" holds no weight.

So, instead of jumping on the bandwagon...bring me some statistics or something to show what you are trying to argue. Also, while Buffet and Colbert does not really have a case in this debate; he is a very formidable debater and he can fend for himself.

Media violence isn't what's being postulated as a contributing factor to the execution of the crime. So the inverse correlation between media violence and violent crime rate is irrelevant. What would be relevant would be to show that there is no correlation between widespread othering of a group and violence directed at those being othered.

Which is going to be somewhat difficult.

[Ashas Favor]

1. Oh no, I was one letter off. I am pretty sure you are not 12, so act like it.

One letter makes a difference. I mean, if my name were Buffet and Colbert, one might think I'm French. Can't have that...

2. Still does not lead to him attacking a Muslim lol

It contributes to it. (And could you quit with the condescending "lol" at the end of your sentences? It's a little annoying.)

I still see no way that it could contribute to it.

[Buffett and Colbert]

1. Oh no, I was one letter off. I am pretty sure you are not 12, so act like it.

One letter makes a difference. I mean, if my name were Buffet and Colbert, one might think I'm French. Can't have that...

2. Still does not lead to him attacking a Muslim lol

It contributes to it. (And could you quit with the condescending "lol" at the end of your sentences? It's a little annoying.)

I still see no way that it could contribute to it.

That's your problem.

[Ashas Favor]

1. Oh no, I was one letter off. I am pretty sure you are not 12, so act like it.

One letter makes a difference. I mean, if my name were Buffet and Colbert, one might think I'm French. Can't have that...

2. Still does not lead to him attacking a Muslim lol

It contributes to it. (And could you quit with the condescending "lol" at the end of your sentences? It's a little annoying.)

I still see no way that it could contribute to it.

That's your problem.

Actually, I am pretty sure most people are in agreement with me. So, the problem lies in your perception of a falsehood. In other words, it is your problem considering your argument holds no weight.

[Holy Paradise]

1. Oh no, I was one letter off. I am pretty sure you are not 12, so act like it.

One letter makes a difference. I mean, if my name were Buffet and Colbert, one might think I'm French. Can't have that...

2. Still does not lead to him attacking a Muslim lol

It contributes to it. (And could you quit with the condescending "lol" at the end of your sentences? It's a little annoying.)

I still see no way that it could contribute to it.

That's your problem.

You see, the thing is while it is possible that it could contribute to the stabber's actions, this does not necessarily mean it actually did. Until we have information showing that the suspect performed the action due to being influenced by Beck or Limbaugh, we cannot wildly assert that he was influenced by Beck or Limbaugh.

Watch how this works:

Your opinion on Beck and Limbaugh was influenced by watching Keith Olbermann.

Respond.

[The Lone Alliance]

Well...
"Liberal Arts"
and the guy worked with a production company that has done business with the Park51 people so..
Freeper mode on/

IT'S A FALSE FLAG ATTACK BY THE EBIL COMMIMUSSINAZIS!!! THEY WILL STOP AT NUTHING!!!

/Freeper mode off.

That's basically what they believe.