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Postby Mikedor » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:48 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38880820/ns/us_news-life
If you’re black and a student at one public middle school in Mississippi, you can’t run for president – only whites need apply.
Nettleton Middle School in Nettleton, Miss., has segregated its elected class positions by race, according to a memo sent home with children at the school last week that was obtained by NBC News.
The memo was first brought to light when Brandy Springer, a mother of four children, contacted blogger Suzy Richardson, founder and editor of the blog mixedandhappy.com.
“My [eighth-grade] daughter came home from[Nettleton] school telling me that she wanted to try out for the school reporter, but it is only open to black students,” Springer wrote Richardson. “They told her ‘she should run for class president, that was open to only white students.'”
The memo indicates that only white students can be president of the school’s eighth grade, while only black students can be vice president.


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http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/secti ... sRaces.pdf

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"Student elections have not yet been held at Nettleton Middle School for the
2010-2011 school term. The processes and procedures for student elections
are under review. We are reviewing the origin of these processes,
historical applications, compliance issues, as well as current implications
and ramifications. A statement will be released when review of these
processes is complete."

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Well, what is this? Why? It's not 1964 anymore, why do this?
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:50 am

Maybe its done to ensure that some blacks are represented? (not that I'd agree with that either)

Certainly looks bad(worse than that) though...
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Postby Thurask » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:51 am

I'm not surprised. Mississippi still has the Confederate Battle Flag on their state flag, for one.
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Postby American Capitalist » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:56 am

That's very disturbing and the school should be ashamed for segregating their presidential election. If I was a parent I would demand that the superintendent resign.
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Postby Intangelon » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:02 pm

Somebody thought it made sense, and it does, in an unfortunate sort of way. If the student body is already segregated de facto, and it's easy to tell because all the black students vote for any black candidates and never white ones and all the white students vote only for white candidates and never black ones, then the solution seemed clear. Make one office in each grade level open to one race, and the other office open to the other race. Reverse the offices (Prez/VP) every year so that you never have a black Prez two years running or a white VP two years running.

I didn't say it was a good idea, I'm merely postulating about how that policy might have been drafted. I think the problem lies in the possibility that it was never revisited once it was suggested.
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Postby Andaluciae » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:09 pm

Ayuh...what the fuck?
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Postby Call to power » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:18 pm

meh school goes about wrong way of solving bitter race divide yes, but I suppose setting a sort of quota has been applied in actual electoral processes

still what a shithole
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Postby Deus Malum » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:21 pm

What. the. fucking. shit...

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Postby Caninope » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:27 pm

Can we hear the school's side?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:35 pm

Intangelon wrote:Somebody thought it made sense, and it does, in an unfortunate sort of way. If the student body is already segregated de facto, and it's easy to tell because all the black students vote for any black candidates and never white ones and all the white students vote only for white candidates and never black ones, then the solution seemed clear. Make one office in each grade level open to one race, and the other office open to the other race. Reverse the offices (Prez/VP) every year so that you never have a black Prez two years running or a white VP two years running.

I didn't say it was a good idea, I'm merely postulating about how that policy might have been drafted. I think the problem lies in the possibility that it was never revisited once it was suggested.

And this is very sad. Not you, Intangelon, but the whole situation you described.
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Postby Coccygia » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:39 pm

I am at a loss for words...so...
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:40 pm

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Intangelon wrote:Somebody thought it made sense, and it does, in an unfortunate sort of way. If the student body is already segregated de facto, and it's easy to tell because all the black students vote for any black candidates and never white ones and all the white students vote only for white candidates and never black ones, then the solution seemed clear. Make one office in each grade level open to one race, and the other office open to the other race. Reverse the offices (Prez/VP) every year so that you never have a black Prez two years running or a white VP two years running.

I didn't say it was a good idea, I'm merely postulating about how that policy might have been drafted. I think the problem lies in the possibility that it was never revisited once it was suggested.

And this is very sad. Not you, Intangelon, but the whole situation you described.

This was the constitutional solution adopted in Lebanon shortly after independence: reserve the Presidency for a Maronite Christian (the faction aligned with the Pope), the Prime Minister for a Sunnite Muslim, Speaker of the House for a Shi'ite Muslim, and the Greek Christians got some post (I forget which). This may have something to do with why Lebanon's politics are marred by frequent assassinations and some horrid outbreaks of civil war.
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Postby Mikedor » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:42 pm

Caninope wrote:Can we hear the school's side?

See OP. They're 'reviewing processes.'
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:43 pm

Tmutarakhan wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Intangelon wrote:Somebody thought it made sense, and it does, in an unfortunate sort of way. If the student body is already segregated de facto, and it's easy to tell because all the black students vote for any black candidates and never white ones and all the white students vote only for white candidates and never black ones, then the solution seemed clear. Make one office in each grade level open to one race, and the other office open to the other race. Reverse the offices (Prez/VP) every year so that you never have a black Prez two years running or a white VP two years running.

I didn't say it was a good idea, I'm merely postulating about how that policy might have been drafted. I think the problem lies in the possibility that it was never revisited once it was suggested.

And this is very sad. Not you, Intangelon, but the whole situation you described.

This was the constitutional solution adopted in Lebanon shortly after independence: reserve the Presidency for a Maronite Christian (the faction aligned with the Pope), the Prime Minister for a Sunnite Muslim, Speaker of the House for a Shi'ite Muslim, and the Greek Christians got some post (I forget which). This may have something to do with why Lebanon's politics are marred by frequent assassinations and some horrid outbreaks of civil war.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. An uneasy peace is made this way sometimes. It's still rather sad.
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Postby New La Habana » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:44 pm

Segregation? In 21st Century America? Has The Constitution just been declared null and void or something?
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Postby Ashmoria » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:02 pm

im gonna wait for a fuller explanation before i damn the school.

its too strange to have put into a memo without there being some reasonable answer.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:06 pm

Caninope wrote:Can we hear the school's side?

I tried to hear their side but I couldn't understand them from under their hoods.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:14 pm

If there's anything that gets SD_Film Artists mad it's segregation! Grrrrr
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Postby Zephie » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:16 pm

Are you serious NSG? Many of you don't think anything is wrong with affirmative action, but something like this is appalling? Really?
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Postby Norstal » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:16 pm

Intangelon wrote:Somebody thought it made sense, and it does, in an unfortunate sort of way. If the student body is already segregated de facto, and it's easy to tell because all the black students vote for any black candidates and never white ones and all the white students vote only for white candidates and never black ones, then the solution seemed clear. Make one office in each grade level open to one race, and the other office open to the other race. Reverse the offices (Prez/VP) every year so that you never have a black Prez two years running or a white VP two years running.

I didn't say it was a good idea, I'm merely postulating about how that policy might have been drafted. I think the problem lies in the possibility that it was never revisited once it was suggested.

Maybe so, but you should still let democracy run its course.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:18 pm

Zephie wrote:Are you serious NSG? Many of you don't think anything is wrong with affirmative action, but something like this is appalling? Really?

What are you raving about? Most of us are against this idea, but support it. Its just the fact that black students tend to vote for black candidates and vice versa. This is just one way to solve this predicament. Unless you have a better idea, don't tell us what to think.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:18 pm

Norstal wrote:
Zephie wrote:Are you serious NSG? Many of you don't think anything is wrong with affirmative action, but something like this is appalling? Really?

What are you raving about? Most of us are against this idea, its just the fact that black students tend to vote for black candidates and vice versa. This is just one way to solve this predicament. Unless you have a better idea, don't tell us what to think.


Forced mixed-race breeding?
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:25 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Norstal wrote:
Zephie wrote:Are you serious NSG? Many of you don't think anything is wrong with affirmative action, but something like this is appalling? Really?

What are you raving about? Most of us are against this idea, its just the fact that black students tend to vote for black candidates and vice versa. This is just one way to solve this predicament. Unless you have a better idea, don't tell us what to think.


Forced mixed-race breeding?

Hmmm all white males must marry an Asian woman.
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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:33 pm

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No, they're the Janitor. Rimshot

Seriously though, does student election really matter that much? I mean what do they do beside plan dances and Home coming? *Yawn* Wake me up when they have some actual effect on school policy.

As for the racial policy, thank you Mississippi for continuing the idea that all Southerners are redneck hicks who are prejudice if not racist and sleep with first cousins.

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