Communism

[Turan Cumhuriyeti]

İd like to continue my previous topic as the subject is very wide and i cant say anything in just one topic. It has many aspects, moments, not all of them may be covered. Id like to share my opinion on the comments under my topics.
Many people in the forum have messy minds and tell you are very radical, how can you tell that there is nothing good in the communist idea? Well, there isnt. I cant be a LIAR and tell that there is something good because there arent any good thing. If someone can find a good thing in the communism is welcome, we will discuss it in order to see if it is really good.
In my previous analyses i showed that the communism has shown its real face in the history but some forumers started barking "AAAAAAA NO, THE COMMUNISM`S IDEA IS VERY GOOD BUT THE COMMUNIST MENTORS MADE IT LOOK BAD"! No, these are awful lies, these are manipulations. One forumer told that the communist leaders in the USSR, china and eastern europe had wanted to help the people. What does this mean? They killed 100 million people in order to help the people? Well, in someone`s brain this may be good, because they think in such a manner "these 100 million were capitalists, intelligentsia, they dont deserve to live". If you kill even a single person for any idea, this idea is already dirty and totally discredited. The killer says "I killed because I wanted to help to the humanity"
The communism is totally discredited after these massacres. The communists havent changed their views but as they cant kill they sit in the forums and propagate these lies. If they had the possibility they would kill us again as their nature is satanist, they are anti-human. They have caused rivers of blood. They have killed 100 million people. This is the real face of the communism, the communism has shown its real face in the history. This is the thruth. These people who still claim that the communism is a good idea should go to a psychiatrist.
Here in the forum there are some people who claim that the real communism still hasnt come but they will wait it. These are nonsenses. The people shouldnt believe in this. I will repeat again: there is nothing good neither in the idea of the communism, nr in its actions in reality. The communism didnt do anything good in reality exactly because there is not anything good in its nature but only evil.
Id like to reply to the people who say that ecerything has bot good and bad sides. This is not true, the communism has only bad sides. Yes, some things have both good and bad sides but the communism has only bad sides. Id like to ask you a question: You tell that everything has good and bad sides. Does a mass-killer have both good and bad sides? Does a mass killer from OMON or KGB have any good sides? For example the drivers of the tanks in Prague or Baku, do they have any good sides? They go home with their bloody hands and beat their women, childen. as the communism is a mass killer there is nothing good in it. The communists are usually killers or at least liars. The lie is also immoral, the lies kill the thruth.

[Karsol]

The fact that communism promotes group work and self betterment in aid of his fellow man?
Plus I don;t like most communist countries, because they do it badly. :/

The USSR was for the most part Authoritarian Socialist, not communist.

[Turan Cumhuriyeti]

The fact that communism promotes group work and self betterment in aid of his fellow man?

no it is not help, the communism kills the individuality, the individual intiative.

[Karsol]

The fact that communism promotes group work and self betterment in aid of his fellow man?

no it is not help, the communism kills the individuality, the individual intiative.

The few must be sacrificed for the many.

[Turan Cumhuriyeti]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

[Karsol]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

Selfishness is immoral and invites thievery.

[Scarsaw]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

It is a system of give and take, like any healthy relationship or aspect of life. You cannot go around life only taking as that will eventually catch up to you...

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Before I read your the WALL OF GIANT TEXT, why are you so obssesed with communism?

[Turan Cumhuriyeti]

The immoral one is to wait help. If you dont help yourself you are lost

[Karsol]

The immoral one is to wait help. If you dont help yourself you are lost

When you try to help yourself when the odds are against you, ignoring anyone else's help because of arrogance, is foolish and the death you may receive for your actions is well deserved.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

Yes you are. You are obligated to give a proportion of wealth to the goverment.

Well most goverments demand a form of taxation.

[Turan Cumhuriyeti]

The immoral one is to wait help. If you dont help yourself you are lost

When you try to help yourself when the odds are against you, ignoring anyone else's help because of arrogance, is foolish and the death you may receive for your actions is well deserved.

nobody is against you. you speak nonsenses in order to find a reason for your passiveness

[Novograd IV]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

stop trolling communists.
or at least LISTEN to what people say in their defense.
EVERY argument you've used has been systematicaly cut down by at least 10 people per thread.

[Turan Cumhuriyeti]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

Yes you are. You are obligated to give a proportion of wealth to the goverment.

Well most goverments demand a form of taxation.

people who are sick or disabled, deserve help and should be tolerated. But healthy people should work and care for themselves. if you dont care for yourself, god wont care for you, too

[Cybach]

I'll be honest. Stalin, Mao and Pot's combined 100 million man death toll sort of turned me off communism.

It might be nice in theory, but let's cut our losses before millions more have to perish.

[Turan Cumhuriyeti]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

stop trolling communists.
or at least LISTEN to what people say in their defense.
EVERY argument you've used has been systematicaly cut down by at least 10 people per thread.

it may be cut by 100 people, the quantity isnt important, the quality of the people is important

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

MMmh, I can't find that nice lil' graph that sums up the differences nicely. :/

[Mikedor]

And how many people have been killed in the name of capitalism? Bearing in mind the millions killed by industrial diseases in the 19th century.

Communism=/=Stalinist Authoritarianism.
Just because the Soviet Union called itself communist doesn't mean it was. I could claim to be related to Queen Elizabeth II just because I'm British, doesn't make it true.

[Great Nepal]

Communism doesn't work. Simply cos there need to be a toleration government to enforce it which defeats the whole idea of everyone being equal to other. And it removes idea of competition of society so society will soon cede to function. Therefore Communism will lead to following (which ever comes first):-
(a) Violent revolution as dictatorship wont be beloved dictatorship.
(b) End of nation due to lack of functioning of society.

And USSR was communist as far as it could be - no true Scotsman argument dont work.

[Novograd IV]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

stop trolling communists.
or at least LISTEN to what people say in their defense.
EVERY argument you've used has been systematicaly cut down by at least 10 people per thread.

it may be cut by 100 people, the quantity isnt important, the quality of the people is important

do you understand english?

'systematicaly cut down' means that your argument has been defeated at every point. this means that they presented a higher quality of argument and understanding than your rather close-mided views.

they beat you via. Quality AND Quantity.

[Alekseevskaya]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

The USSR and China were Totalitarianisms not Communisms, read the link the first few paragraphs contradict everything they did. When ever people try Communism on a large scale it goes horribly wrong.

[Turan Cumhuriyeti]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

stop trolling communists.
or at least LISTEN to what people say in their defense.
EVERY argument you've used has been systematicaly cut down by at least 10 people per thread.

it may be cut by 100 people, the quantity isnt important, the quality of the people is important

do you understand english?

'systematicaly cut down' means that your argument has been defeated at every point. this means that they presented a higher quality of argument and understanding than your rather close-mided views.

they beat you via. Quality AND Quantity.

no you presented lower quality of brain

[Great Nepal]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

The USSR and China were Totalitarianisms not Communisms, read the link the first few paragraphs contradict everything they did.

And communism needs toleration government to work.
No true Scotsman argument dont wrok.

[Alekseevskaya]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

stop trolling communists.
or at least LISTEN to what people say in their defense.
EVERY argument you've used has been systematicaly cut down by at least 10 people per thread.

it may be cut by 100 people, the quantity isnt important, the quality of the people is important

do you understand english?

'systematicaly cut down' means that your argument has been defeated at every point. this means that they presented a higher quality of argument and understanding than your rather close-mided views.

they beat you via. Quality AND Quantity.

no you presented lower quality of brain

You cannot even use proper punctuation.

[Novograd IV]

these are nonsenses. Im not obligated to give my things to anybody

stop trolling communists.
or at least LISTEN to what people say in their defense.
EVERY argument you've used has been systematicaly cut down by at least 10 people per thread.

it may be cut by 100 people, the quantity isnt important, the quality of the people is important

do you understand english?

'systematicaly cut down' means that your argument has been defeated at every point. this means that they presented a higher quality of argument and understanding than your rather close-mided views.

they beat you via. Quality AND Quantity.

no you presented lower quality of brain

1) this isn't about me in any sense

2) explain how i'm presenting a lower 'quality of brain', from what i can see, i'm using better spelling and grammar than you, with an argument that hasn't already been defeated in all your other threads.