Glenn Beck's 8-28 Rally in Washington D.C.

[Kryozerkia]

He is an idiot, as he harbors idiotic opinions. That make sense?

So you were disrespecting the person, then? Because that's what a personal attack is.

Not necessarily. Calling somebody out for being an idiot isn't, on its own, a personal attack.

So hop the fuck off.

Too bad your belief runs contrary to the rules because guess what, it is a personal attack.

As a US Veteran, dedicated to the principles this Nation is founded upon, I will not be attending this rally ran by traitors, and other such unAmerican elements, as Beck, and Palin.

Bwahahaha. Idiot.

This is unacceptable. Although it may normally not be viewed more than mild, given the tone of the first post, it is clear you do intend to attack the poster, which is flaming. *** Warned for flaming. ***

[Geniasis]

He is an idiot, as he harbors idiotic opinions. That make sense?

So you were disrespecting the person, then? Because that's what a personal attack is.

Again, one can be stupid and a veteran at the same time. The two are not mutually exclusive.

How does that invalidate anything I just said?

[The Cat-Tribe]

In a study by Rafkin in 1990 and Saffrin in 1996 whereby they published 57 life-story narratives of children who had grown up with homosexual parents, the authors found that in 92 percent of the cases, children mentioned one or more problems or concerns. Of 213 scored problems, 201 were attributed to homosexual parents.

http://www.mfc.org/contents/article.cfm?id=538

Umm yea, the website has ads on church and family.....not exactly a credible source.

Try again.

They source their information. Read again.

Link a actual source then. Not his job to prove your argument.

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/ ... culties-2/

Get this homophobic, unscientific, biased and overwhelming rebutted nonsense out of here.

The scientific evidence is overwhelming that: same-sex marriages are healthy, stable, and committed; denying marriage to same-sex couples causes harm to those couples; same-sex parenting does not harm (and may even benefit) children; AND denying same-sex marriage harms families. See, e.g., Amicus Brief of the American Psychological Assn., American Psychiatric Assn., etc (75p. pdf); American Psychological Association Resolution on Sexual Orientation and Marriage (5p pdf); American Psychological Association Resolution on Sexual Orientation, Parents, and Children (3p pdf); Lambda Legal: Denying Access to Marriage Harms Families.

Morevover, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California's 136-page decision in Perry v. Schwarzenegger, the Court made extensive findings of fact relevant to the arguments you are making -- many of them supported by the experts from the anti-same-sex-marriage defendants:

Plaintiffs entered into evidence the deposition testimony of two of proponents’ withdrawn witnesses, as their testimony supported plaintiffs’ claims. Katherine Young was to testify on comparative religion and the universal definition of marriage. Doc #292 at 4 (proponents’ December 7 witness list) Doc #286-4 at 2 (expert report). Paul Nathanson was to testify on religious attitudes towards Proposition 8. Doc #292 at 4 (proponents’ December 7 witness list); Doc #280-4 at 2 (expert report).

Young has been a professor of religious studies at McGill University since 1978. PX2335 Young CV. She received her PhD in history of religions and comparative religions from McGill in 1978. Id. Young testified at her deposition that homosexuality is a normal variant of human sexuality and that same-sex couples possess the same desire for love and commitment as opposite-sex couples. PX2545 (dep tr); PX2544 (video of same). Young also explained that several cultures around the world and across centuries have had variations of marital relationships for same-sex couples. Id.

Nathanson has a PhD in religious studies from McGill University and is a researcher at McGill’s Faculty for Religious Studies. PX2334 Nathanson CV. Nathanson is also a frequent lecturer on consequences of marriage for same-sex couples and on gender and parenting. Id. Nathanson testified at his deposition that religion lies at the heart of the hostility and violence directed at gays and lesbians and that there is no evidence that children raised by same-sex couples fare worse than children raised by opposite-sex couples. PX2547 (dep tr); PX2546 (video of same).
...
David Blankenhorn, founder and president of the Institute for American Values, testified [for the Defendants] on marriage, fatherhood and family structure. ... During cross-examination, Blankenhorn was shown a report produced by his Institute in 2000 explaining the six dimensions of marriage: (1) legal contract; (2) financial partnership; (3) sacred promise; (4) sexual union; (5) personal bond; and (6) family-making bond. PX2879 (Coalition for Marriage, Family and Couples Education, et al, The Marriage Movement: A Statement of Principles (Institute for American Values 2000)). Blankenhorn agreed that same-sex marriages and opposite-sex marriages would be identical across these six dimensions. Tr 2913:8-2916:18. When referring to the sixth dimension, a family-making bond, Blankenhorn agreed that same-sex couples could “raise” children. Tr 2916:17.
...
Blankenhorn testified on cross-examination that studies show children of adoptive parents do as well or better than children of biological parents. Tr 2794:12-2795:5. Blankenhorn agreed that children raised by same-sex couples would benefit if their parents were permitted to marry. Tr 2803:6-15. Blankenhorn also testified he wrote and agrees with the statement “I believe that today the
principle of equal human dignity must apply to gay and lesbian persons. In that sense, insofar as we are a nation founded on this principle, we would be more American on the day we permitted same-sex marriage than we were the day before.” DIX0956 at 2; Tr 2805:6-2806:1.

...
56. The children of same-sex couples benefit when their parents can marry.

a. Tr 1332:19-1337:25 (Badgett: Same-sex couples and their children are denied all of the economic benefits of marriage that are available to married couples.);

b. PX0787 Position Statement, American Psychiatric Association, Support of Legal Recognition of Same-Sex Civil Marriage at 1 (July 2005): “The children of unmarried gay and lesbian parents do not have the same protection that civil marriage affords the children of heterosexual couples.”;

c. Tr 1964:17-1965:2 (Tam: It is important to children of same-sex couples that their parents be able to marry.);

d. Tr 599:12-19 (Peplau: A survey of same-sex couples who married in Massachusetts shows that 95 percent of same-sex couples raising children reported that their children had benefitted from the fact that their parents were able to marry.).

...
70. The gender of a child’s parent is not a factor in a child’s adjustment. The sexual orientation of an individual does not determine whether that individual can be a good parent. Children raised by gay or lesbian parents are as likely as children raised by heterosexual parents to be healthy, successful and well-adjusted. The research supporting this conclusion is accepted beyond serious debate in the field of developmental psychology.

a. Tr 1025:4-23 (Lamb: Studies have demonstrated “very conclusively that children who are raised by gay and lesbian parents are just as likely to be well-adjusted as children raised by heterosexual parents.” These results are “completely consistent with our broader understanding of the factors that affect children’s adjustment.”);

b. PX2565 American Psychological Association, Answers to Your Questions: For a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality at 5 (2008): “[S]ocial science has shown that the concerns often raised about children of lesbian and gay parents —— concerns that are generally grounded in prejudice against and stereotypes about gay people —— are unfounded.”);

c. PX2547 (Nathanson Nov 12, 2009 Dep Tr 49:05-49:19: Sociological and psychological peer-reviewed studies conclude that permitting gay and lesbian individuals to marry does not cause any problems for children); PX2546 at 2:20-3:10 (video of same).

71. Children do not need to be raised by a male parent and a female parent to be well-adjusted, and having both a male and a female parent does not increase the likelihood that a child will be well-adjusted. Tr 1014:25-1015:19; 1038:23-1040:17

[Wilgrove]

In a study by Rafkin in 1990 and Saffrin in 1996 whereby they published 57 life-story narratives of children who had grown up with homosexual parents, the authors found that in 92 percent of the cases, children mentioned one or more problems or concerns. Of 213 scored problems, 201 were attributed to homosexual parents.

http://www.mfc.org/contents/article.cfm?id=538

Umm yea, the website has ads on church and family.....not exactly a credible source.

Try again.

They source their information. Read again.

Link a actual source then. Not his job to prove your argument.

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/ ... culties-2/

Get this homophobic, unscientific, biased and overwhelming rebutted nonsense out of here.

The scientific evidence is overwhelming that: same-sex marriages are healthy, stable, and committed; denying marriage to same-sex couples causes harm to those couples; same-sex parenting does not harm (and may even benefit) children; AND denying same-sex marriage harms families. See, e.g., Amicus Brief of the American Psychological Assn., American Psychiatric Assn., etc (75p. pdf); American Psychological Association Resolution on Sexual Orientation and Marriage (5p pdf); American Psychological Association Resolution on Sexual Orientation, Parents, and Children (3p pdf); Lambda Legal: Denying Access to Marriage Harms Families.

Morevover, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California's 136-page decision in Perry v. Schwarzenegger, the Court made extensive findings of fact relevant to the arguments you are making -- many of them supported by the experts from the anti-same-sex-marriage defendants:

Plaintiffs entered into evidence the deposition testimony of two of proponents’ withdrawn witnesses, as their testimony supported plaintiffs’ claims. Katherine Young was to testify on comparative religion and the universal definition of marriage. Doc #292 at 4 (proponents’ December 7 witness list) Doc #286-4 at 2 (expert report). Paul Nathanson was to testify on religious attitudes towards Proposition 8. Doc #292 at 4 (proponents’ December 7 witness list); Doc #280-4 at 2 (expert report).

Young has been a professor of religious studies at McGill University since 1978. PX2335 Young CV. She received her PhD in history of religions and comparative religions from McGill in 1978. Id. Young testified at her deposition that homosexuality is a normal variant of human sexuality and that same-sex couples possess the same desire for love and commitment as opposite-sex couples. PX2545 (dep tr); PX2544 (video of same). Young also explained that several cultures around the world and across centuries have had variations of marital relationships for same-sex couples. Id.

Nathanson has a PhD in religious studies from McGill University and is a researcher at McGill’s Faculty for Religious Studies. PX2334 Nathanson CV. Nathanson is also a frequent lecturer on consequences of marriage for same-sex couples and on gender and parenting. Id. Nathanson testified at his deposition that religion lies at the heart of the hostility and violence directed at gays and lesbians and that there is no evidence that children raised by same-sex couples fare worse than children raised by opposite-sex couples. PX2547 (dep tr); PX2546 (video of same).
...
David Blankenhorn, founder and president of the Institute for American Values, testified [for the Defendants] on marriage, fatherhood and family structure. ... During cross-examination, Blankenhorn was shown a report produced by his Institute in 2000 explaining the six dimensions of marriage: (1) legal contract; (2) financial partnership; (3) sacred promise; (4) sexual union; (5) personal bond; and (6) family-making bond. PX2879 (Coalition for Marriage, Family and Couples Education, et al, The Marriage Movement: A Statement of Principles (Institute for American Values 2000)). Blankenhorn agreed that same-sex marriages and opposite-sex marriages would be identical across these six dimensions. Tr 2913:8-2916:18. When referring to the sixth dimension, a family-making bond, Blankenhorn agreed that same-sex couples could “raise” children. Tr 2916:17.
...
Blankenhorn testified on cross-examination that studies show children of adoptive parents do as well or better than children of biological parents. Tr 2794:12-2795:5. Blankenhorn agreed that children raised by same-sex couples would benefit if their parents were permitted to marry. Tr 2803:6-15. Blankenhorn also testified he wrote and agrees with the statement “I believe that today the
principle of equal human dignity must apply to gay and lesbian persons. In that sense, insofar as we are a nation founded on this principle, we would be more American on the day we permitted same-sex marriage than we were the day before.” DIX0956 at 2; Tr 2805:6-2806:1.

...
56. The children of same-sex couples benefit when their parents can marry.

a. Tr 1332:19-1337:25 (Badgett: Same-sex couples and their children are denied all of the economic benefits of marriage that are available to married couples.);

b. PX0787 Position Statement, American Psychiatric Association, Support of Legal Recognition of Same-Sex Civil Marriage at 1 (July 2005): “The children of unmarried gay and lesbian parents do not have the same protection that civil marriage affords the children of heterosexual couples.”;

c. Tr 1964:17-1965:2 (Tam: It is important to children of same-sex couples that their parents be able to marry.);

d. Tr 599:12-19 (Peplau: A survey of same-sex couples who married in Massachusetts shows that 95 percent of same-sex couples raising children reported that their children had benefitted from the fact that their parents were able to marry.).

...
70. The gender of a child’s parent is not a factor in a child’s adjustment. The sexual orientation of an individual does not determine whether that individual can be a good parent. Children raised by gay or lesbian parents are as likely as children raised by heterosexual parents to be healthy, successful and well-adjusted. The research supporting this conclusion is accepted beyond serious debate in the field of developmental psychology.

a. Tr 1025:4-23 (Lamb: Studies have demonstrated “very conclusively that children who are raised by gay and lesbian parents are just as likely to be well-adjusted as children raised by heterosexual parents.” These results are “completely consistent with our broader understanding of the factors that affect children’s adjustment.”);

b. PX2565 American Psychological Association, Answers to Your Questions: For a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality at 5 (2008): “[S]ocial science has shown that the concerns often raised about children of lesbian and gay parents —— concerns that are generally grounded in prejudice against and stereotypes about gay people —— are unfounded.”);

c. PX2547 (Nathanson Nov 12, 2009 Dep Tr 49:05-49:19: Sociological and psychological peer-reviewed studies conclude that permitting gay and lesbian individuals to marry does not cause any problems for children); PX2546 at 2:20-3:10 (video of same).

71. Children do not need to be raised by a male parent and a female parent to be well-adjusted, and having both a male and a female parent does not increase the likelihood that a child will be well-adjusted. Tr 1014:25-1015:19; 1038:23-1040:17

Zephie, take note. THESE are proper sources. Good job as always Cat.

[Zephie]

Martin Luther King's niece is obviously a racist.

-_-

No one's called her a racist. She is homophobic, though.

Which is ironic. The niece of a great civil rights leader is against the civil rights of homosexuals.

Yes! I have a dream one day homosexuals will have the right to vote, and take a sip from the straight fountain.

Or you know...the ability to fucking adopt?

In a study by Rafkin in 1990 and Saffrin in 1996 whereby they published 57 life-story narratives of children who had grown up with homosexual parents, the authors found that in 92 percent of the cases, children mentioned one or more problems or concerns. Of 213 scored problems, 201 were attributed to homosexual parents.

http://www.mfc.org/contents/article.cfm?id=538

Umm yea, the website has ads on church and family.....not exactly a credible source.

Try again.

They source their information. Read again.

Link a actual source then. Not his job to prove your argument.

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/ ... culties-2/

Once again the source is questionable. One look at the home page reveals this.

FRR, Aug 2010 - Gays in Military = Traitors in Military

Will Western ‘Gay Rights’ Meld With Islamic Pederasty?

and from the last article, apparently homosexuals are lowering the age of consent and teaching our boys (which I took to meaning an underage male), about homosexual sex.

Ok, since you suck at the source game, I'm going to simplify things for you. If your source includes the word "Family" in it, and it has political articles against homosexuals on the home page, then it's not a good source. It's a biased source and any "research" it does is biased and should be laughed out of the room.

Try again.

I'm not playing the "source" game. You have shown to me no matter what you are presented with, you will hold onto your own beliefs and opinions. *Shrugs* Fine by me, just say it, don't waste my time.

[Rolling squid]

I'm not playing the "source" game. You have shown to me no matter what you are presented with, you will hold onto your own beliefs and opinions. *Shrugs* Fine by me, just say it, don't waste my time.

Translation: "I can't hear you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Pure Wishes]

Between this post:

Since the rally is on...Marcus Luttrell background to smack you liberal folk upside the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irC4K7Q4JCo
I think I'll be picking up that book. What about you?
The following is too graphic for the neo-liberal pansy's so just comment on the rally itself. Avoid the next links and go straight to the next question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nzZrUndMAs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QanOI9crF1s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FPLCKdI_fs&feature=related
Mini movie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx-63pfxJjE

Glenn Beck may be a nutter on the Religious side...(I don't believe in gods, gods, or goddesses...rather silly throwback to simple minded tribes)

Addressing the conservative rally, Mr Beck - a presenter for Fox News - said the US had "wandered in darkness" for too long. "America today begins to turn back to God," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11114172
SEE VIDEO FROM RALLY ON THAT PAGE
Beck looks more like a televangelist selling his religion than a political wackjob.
Shudder the thought!....isn't there supposed to be a division between Church and State? Are the Teabaggers all teabagging to Jesus?

Beck talks faith in rally....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/28/glenn.beck.rally/index.html

WHEN will you civilized and educated folk Wake the fuck Up and realize there's no cloud-surfing deity out there watching you and caring/not caring? Create your own destiny. Nobody but yourselves to blame for your mistakes and no one to apologize to. Praying to god, gods, or goddesses makes as much sense as worshiping the Sun as we used to. You get blinded and stupid.
(End Rant.)

...and...

Since the rally is on...Marcus Luttrell background to smack you liberal folk upside the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irC4K7Q4JCo
I think I'll be picking up that book. What about you?
The following is too graphic for the neo-liberal pansy's so just comment on the rally itself. Avoid the next links and go straight to the next question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nzZrUndMAs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QanOI9crF1s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FPLCKdI_fs&feature=related
Mini movie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx-63pfxJjE

Glenn Beck may be a nutter on the Religious side...(I don't believe in gods, gods, or goddesses...rather silly throwback to simple minded tribes)

Addressing the conservative rally, Mr Beck - a presenter for Fox News - said the US had "wandered in darkness" for too long. "America today begins to turn back to God," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11114172
SEE VIDEO FROM RALLY ON THAT PAGE
Beck looks more like a televangelist selling his religion than a political wackjob.
Shudder the thought!....isn't there supposed to be a division between Church and State? Are the Teabaggers all teabagging to Jesus?

Beck talks faith in rally....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/28/glenn.beck.rally/index.html

WHEN will you civilized and educated folk Wake the fuck Up and realize there's no cloud-surfing deity out there watching you and caring/not caring? Create your own destiny. Nobody but yourselves to blame for your mistakes and no one to apologize to. Praying to god, gods, or goddesses makes as much sense as worshiping the Sun as we used to. You get blinded and stupid.
(End Rant.)

Take a deep breath, and relax. I understand that we all feel emotions about this issue, but just take a breather okay?

I figured I'd hit you with 7 large bricks...I mean links..to get things going again as to the Rally and what's going on...man.

...and the rap sheet you've developed in your short time here, it's apparent that you are impervious to the standard Moderator warnings. So, rather than warning, we'll just ban you. *** Let's start with a 3-day ban *** just to get the point across that this kind of behaviour is unacceptable. Flaming and trolling are just two examples of unacceptable conduct.

Who's a flaming troll here? Did New Accord single anyone out with a direct flame? And how is responding to the homosexual tirade in this thread Trolling? I call that asinine in the extreme. Here's the official stance of Eurotopia on Religion, since NA has a three day ban for voicing opinions against the leftist views above I post on his behalf.

Astro-Theology by Jordan Maxwell

The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.

-- Thomas Paine

In the New Testament, a provocative and most serious challenge is laid on the whole of Christianity. Since it bears directly on our subject, we will quote it: "...if Christ be not risen, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith is also in vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God...And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain, ye are yet in your sins." (I Cor. 15:13117)

Let's closely examine the original, conceptual foundations of the faith, and then decide. But in order to do that, we must go back not 2000 years to the birth of Christ, but 10 to 15,000 years to the birth of modern man. For when one seeks to establish foundations, one must begin at the beginning. Many thousands of years ago, in what we refer to as the "primordial world" of the ancients, human life was a far different experience from that which we enjoy today. While it is true that we have less documentation on that prehistoric world than we have on our own picture of our remote ancestry. If we have learned anything at all, it is this: "That the more we change, the more we stay the same." And nowhere is this more clearly demonstrated than in the history of man's quest for "God", and the ancient religion we still keep holy. According to the best understanding we have gleaned from the available records, life for our ancient forefathers was a mixture of wonder and fear. Each day, just finding food for one's family without becoming a meal oneself was a life-and-death struggle. It was from these meager, distressful conditions of the human race that our long history of the search for God and meaning of life has come. Any evolution, at its most accelerated rate, is always agonizingly slow. But from the beginning, man's profound questions demanded answers. When no clear answers were forthcoming from the universe, man turned inward and developed his own. The study of this subject is termed "Astro-Theology" or the worship of the heavens. It did not take ancient man very long to decide that in this world the single greatest enemy to be feared was the darkness of night. Simply stated, man's first enemy was darkness.

With this one fact alone, one can readily understand why the greatest and most trustworthy friend the human race would ever have was heaven's greatest gift to the world ... the Glorious Rising Orb of Day ... THE SUN. With this simple truth understood, we can now begin to unravel an ancient and wonderful story. Today, as in all of mankind�s history, it has once again been told anew. This is the story of Christianity: "The Greatest Story Ever Told." We shall see that the parallels between Christian metaphors and the natural reality of sun and sky are so striking that they constitute - the whole story. Modern-day Christianity has often belittled our ancient ancestors who are not here to defend themselves. They accuse them of being nothing more than ignorant worshippers of miscellaneous gods. Therefore we can, with assurance, summarily dismiss 14,000 years of human spirituality as ignominious myth believed by well-meaning but gullible primitives. Too much of this kind of spiritual arrogance and religious pride has continued without challenge ... until now! The time has come to set matters straight. The "Greatest Story" went something like this ...

The ancient peoples reasoned that no one on Earth could ever lay claim of ownership to the Great Orb of Day. It must belong to the unseen Creator of the universe. It became, figuratively speaking, not man's but "God's Sun." Truly, "God's Sun" was ... "The Light of the World."

As stated before, in the dark cold of night man realized his utter vulnerability to the elements. Each night, mankind was forced to wait for the "Rising of The Sun" to chase away the physical and mental insecurity brought on by the darkness. Therefore, the morning Sun focused man's attention on heavenly dependence for his frail, short existence on Earth, Doing so, it became an appropriate symbol of divine benevolence from heaven.

So just as a small fire brought limited light into man's own little world of darkness, likewise, the "Great Fire of Day" served the whole Earth with its heavenly presence. For this reason, it was said at Deut. 4:24 and Heb. 12:29 that the God of the Bible was a "Consuming Fire" in heaven. And so He was! It was accepted by all that man was bound to a life on Earth, but the sky was the abode of God's Sun. He resides "up there" in ... "Heaven."

Ancient man saw in his male offspring his own image and likeness, and his own existence as a father was proved by the person of his son. It was assumed that "God's Sun" was but a visible representative of the unseen Creator in heaven. So it was said, "When you have seen the Son, you have seen the Father." Said another way, "The Father is glorified in His Son."

Ancient man had no problem understanding that all life on Earth depended directly on life-giving energy from the Sun. Consequently, all life was lost without the Sun. It followed that "God's Sun" was nothing less than "Our very Savior."

Logically, even if man himself dies, as long as the Sun comes up each day, life on Earth will continue forever. Therefore, it was said in the ancient texts that everlasting life was "the gift" that the Father gives through his Sun. Not for you personally - but for the Earth ... everlasting life!

Since evil and harm lurked at every turn in the fearful dark of night, all evil or harmful deeds were naturally the ... Works of Darkness."

And of course the evil of night was ruled over by none other than ... "The Prince of Darkness." Hence, evil is of the Dark or Devil.

We now have before us two cosmic brothers - one very good, and one very bad. One brings the "truth to light" with the "light of truth." The other is the opposite, or in opposition to the light - "The Opposer" ... Prince of the World of Darkness.

At this point we come to Egypt. More than three thousand years before Christianity began, the early morning "Sun/Savior" was pictured in Egypt as the " New Born Babe." The infant savior's name was "Horus." At day break, this wonderful, newborn child is of course "Born Again" (halleluhaj). Horus is risen on the Horizon.

"God's Sun, The Light of the World, with Crown of Thorns"

"If people simply realized that most major religions (including Christianity) are based on astrology and sun worship - mankind would be a lot better off ...

the editor

And of course "God's Sun" goes to His death wearing a "crown of thorns' or "corona." Remember the Statue of Liberty? To this day, kings still wear a round crown of spikes, symbolizing the rays of the Sun!

The Egyptians knew that the Sun was at its highest point in the sky (or high noon) when no shadow was cast by the pyramid. At that point, all Egypt offered prayers to the "Most High" God! As stated before, to the ancients, the sky was the abode, or heavenly temple, of the "Most High." Therefore, "God's Sun" was doing His heavenly Father's work in the temple at 12 noon!

The world of ancient man kept track of times and seasons by the movement of the Sun - daily, monthly, yearly. For this, the sundial was devised. Not only the daily movement of the Sun was tracked on the round dial, but the whole year was charted on a round calendar dial. Examples: Ancient Mexican, Mayan, Inca, Aztec, Sumerian, Babylonian, Assyrian, Egyptian, Celtic, Aryan, etc. With this method, certain new concepts emerged in the mind of ancient man.

Since the Earth experiences four different seasons, all the same and equal (in time) each year, the round calendar was divided into four equal parts. This represented the complete story of the life of "God's Sun." The famous painting of "The Last Supper" pictures the 12 followers of the Son in four groups (of 3) ... the four seasons of the year!

On the round surface of the yearly calendar, you draw a vertical line directly across the middle, cutting the circle in half - one end being the point of the winter solstice; the other end being the point of the summer solstice. Then draw another straight line (crossing the first one). One end of the new line is the spring equinox; the other end is the autumn equinox.

You now have the starting points for each of the four seasons. This is referred to by all major encyclopedias and reference works, both ancient and modern, as "The Cross of the Zodiac." Thus, the life of God's "Sun" is on "the Cross." This is why we see the round circle of the Sun on the crosses of Christian churches. The next time you pass a Christian church, look for the circle (Sun) on the cross. On December 21 or 22, the Sun, going south, reaches its lowest point in the sky (our winter solstice). By December 25th, it is clear that the Sun is returning northward. Therefore, on Dec. 25th the sun is "Born Again." Christians stole Dec. 25 from the Roman celebration of Sol invictus - the Sun Unconquered. And to this day, His worshippers still celebrate His birthday - Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year. As noted before, the year was divided into 12 equal parts, or months. And to each month was appointed a heavenly symbol or astrological "Sign." Each of the 12 monthly signs was called a "House" of the heavenly Zodiac.

We are told in Matthew 14:17 & 19 that God's Son tends to His people's needs with "Two Fishes." The two fishes represent the astrological sign all astrologers know as "Pisces." Thus, we have had for almost 2000 years God's Sun ruling in His "Kingdom" in the sign of Pisces/Two Fishes. As stated before, these signs are called houses. Therefore, Pisces is the "Lord's House" at this time. Truly the Greatest "Fish Story Ever Told! According to astrology, sometime after the year 2000, the Sun will enter His new Sign, or His new Kingdom, as it was called by the ancients. This next coming Sign/Kingdom, soon to be upon us, will be, according to the Zodiac, the House or Sign of Aquarius. So when we read in Luke 22:10, we now understand why God's Son states that He and His followers, at the last Passover, are to go into "the house of the man with the water pitcher." So we see that in the coming millennium, God's Sun will bring us into His new Kingdom or House of Aquarius (the man with the water pitcher).

Once we realize that in Astrology, each month is assigned one of the so-called "Houses" of the Zodiac and in heaven are 12 houses (12 monthly signs), then the words we read of God's Son saying "In my Father's House are many mansions, " makes sense (when translated correctly). The proper translation is as follows:

Father's House = Heavenly Abode

Mansions = Houses

So, correctly read in the original text, we read: "In my Father's heavenly abode are many houses." Yes, 12 to be exact. "The Pisces of the Zodiac is still prominent on church windows of all denominations."

Anyone familiar with modern-day Christianity must surely know we are said to be living in the "Last Days." This teaching is, in part, based on the idea expressed in Matthew 28:20 of the King James Bible, where God's Son says, "I am with you always, even unto the end of the world." End of the World??!! Yet another simple mistranslation to clarify with a proper understanding of the actual words used. This "end of the world" is translated differently in various Bibles. Some say "End of Time," "End of the Days," and still others say "Conclusion of this system of things." So what does all this talk of the "End Times/Last Days" really mean?

Here is the simple answer. When the scriptures speak of "the end of the world," the actual word used is not, I repeat, not end of the world. The actual word in Greek is "Aeon," which, when correctly translated, means "Age," that's spelled "A G E"! Any library will have Bible Concordances. Strong's Bible concordance is a good reference work to use here. Look up the word "age" in any secular dictionary or Bible Concordance. There you will find the word for "age" is from the Greek "Aeon." Remembering that in astrology each of the 12 houses (or signs) of the Zodiac corresponds to a 2000-year period of time, called an "ag," we now know we are nearly 2000 years into the House or Age of Pisces. Now, correctly understood, it can rightly be said that we today, in fact, are living in the "Last Days."

Yes, we are in the last days of the old "Age of Pisces." Soon, God's Sun will come again into His New Kingdom or "New Age" of Aquarius (man with the water pitcher). That's right, "The New Aeon" ... "The New Age."

This is the theme in the New Testament - God's Sun and his coming Kingdom/Age. "The New Age of Aquarius."

It was well understood by ancient man that our weather was caused and controlled by the Sun. It was a simple fact that God's Sun had the power to control storms at will. The ancient Egyptians taught that He did this as He rested in His heavenly boat while crossing the sky. The story of Jesus calming the storm (Matt. U:23-27) echoes this.

The next point to be made requires first a little background. Christians have always referred to God as �The Father." But viewing God as a father didn't start here - it goes back far into the ancient world. The reason is: Our planet was always viewed as our "Mother Earth or Mother Nature." And since rain (the life-bringing fluid), falling from heaven, impregnated and brought life to Mother Earth, it was therefore believed that our Father was in Heaven.

"LUKE 22:10 - Jesus tells his followers that they are to enter the house of the man with a water pitcher. This is the house of Aquarius, marking the beginning of a new age. It is one of the 122 ages or houses of the zodiac in the "Heavens."

All this life-bringing intercourse between God the Father and Mother Earth would be after a proper marriage ceremony at a spring wedding. In the area today called Israel, called by the ancients "The Land of Canaan," the (sexual/fertility) rites of spring were celebrated each year in what was called "The Marriage Feast of Canaan."

And so the New Testament story was ... Mother Earth asked God's Sun to draw water (from the sea) for the grapes to make fine wine for the wedding feast. This marriage feast story is over 55000 years old -- 3000 years before the New Testament story.

It is at this point we need to go back to the ancient Egyptians to further understand "The Greatest Story Ever Told." Though all of the essential pieces of the Christian story were long in existence before Egypt, it was with the coming of the Pharaohs that the story was finally codified and became religious dogma. Though the story varied in some details from place to place in Egypt, the essence was always the same: God's Sun was the "Light of the World," who gave His life for us.

In ancient Egypt it was said that if you wanted to follow the life of God's Sun and thereby: "live in the light of God's Word," one would first have to leave his old ways of life to "Follow the Sun." But before beginning this new life in "The Word," one must die to the old way of life and be "Born Again." Your first birth was "out of the water" your mother formed you in. Because her water broke and your new life began, rebirth is symbolized by coming out of total immersion in water - baptism - or being born again.

These points here mentioned are a few of hundreds, if not thousands, of direct connections that can be made between the Judaeo-Christian Bible Story and the far more ancient, original Story. My purpose for drawing your attention to this literary plagiarism is best stated by Alfred North Whitehead who said, "No lie can live forever," and Egyptologist Gerald Massey, "They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority."

First Pharaoh holds the shepherd's crook as the Good Shepherd; again later, Jesus carries the same crook. ... though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me -- thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Ps. 23:4"

Now for a few thoughts on the "Old Testament" Word of God

In Mal. 4:2, the God of Heaven is described as the "Sun of Righteousness with healing in His wings." The Sun with healing in His wings?? Then in the New Testament in Matt. 23:37 and Luke 13:34, we see God's Son wanting to gather all under "His wings." This is most appropriate for, in Egypt, the Sun was always pictured with His wings.

In the ancient Egyptian understanding of things, mankind was called "the sheep of God." And the great Orb of Day, God's Sun, was the overseer or, in the exact words from the ancient Egyptian manuscript, "The Good Shepherd" -- and we are his flock. All ancient kings thought of their people as sheep to be pastured, with themselves as "the shepherd," Sheep are ideal followers, for they do not think for themselves but will blindly follow anyone without question. Truly admirable behavior for animals, but unwise for humans.

With foregoing in mind, we read again from the Old Testament Book of Psalms. At Psalms 23:4 we read that old, dog-eared, tired, exhausted and equally misunderstood chestnut, used by every "man of the cloth" to put the sheep to sleep, we quote it here: "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me. The Rod and thy Staff, they comfort me." Thy Rod and thy Staff!!

Here in the Book of Psalms, the Old Testament God is pictured with His Rod and Staff.

The rod here mentioned is the king's "Rod of Discipline" and the staff is the "Shepherd's Staff," or crook. Now for the correct understanding of this old verse. Any good library book on the Egyptian religion will tell you that the ancient Pharaohs were said to be ruling for God's Sun on Earth. The Pharaoh was called "King of the Kingdom" and " The Great Shepherd of His Sheep." In the hands of the Pharaoh/God (whose arms form the "Sign of the cross" on his chest), were placed the royal symbols of heavenly power, the Rod and Staff.

Incidentally, Jesus is pictured not only with His shepherd's staff but, in Rev. 12:5 & Rev. 19:15, is also said to " rule with a rod of iron."

Jordan Maxwell is an author, teacher and lecturer on ancient religions and Astro-mythology.

[Xsyne]

You could have at least chosen a different flag.

[Pure Wishes]

You could have at least chosen a different flag.

Solidarity.

[Linux and the X]

You could have at least chosen a different flag.

Solidarity.

I hope for your sake you are not lying. The mods can ascertain whether or not you are a puppet, and, if so, will ban both accounts permanently.

[Holy Marsh]

As a US Veteran, dedicated to the principles this Nation is founded upon, I will not be attending this rally ran by traitors, and other such unAmerican elements, as Beck, and Palin.

Bwahahaha. Idiot.

Just wanted to quote your post again so we can all see that yes, you were personally attacking him. If I called you an idiot, it would be a personal attack. Now, you can defend it any which way you want, but facts are facts and the fact is it was a personal attack.


As for the rally, I laugh at it. Many there are angry at government's power, but didn't say a word and even supported Bush when he made the government have more and more power. I just find it funny that many there likely would have supported a militarized America living under some auspices of martial law, but shit themselves and scream when they detect the very air of socialism. Both would be bad, but hey, one is a white Republican and the other is a black Democrat. The reasonings are clear.

LOL Did you not notice all the rallies and protests against Bush? I'm a republican and I hate Bush just as much as I hate Obama.

I believed you failed to understand what I said. The Tea Party activists. Beck. Palin. They all crow on about government's power, but either supported or approved of what Bush did. The Tea Party movement is a hypocritical movement that targets Obama not because of "ohno government power ohno" but because he is a Democrat. If McCain had won and was doing this, do you think the Tea Party would be around?

That is why I have less than zero respect for the Tea Party movement. It is obviously nothing more than a conservative hive mind mindset that in the absence of any real ideas pokes around Obama's religion and place of birth while screaming about a government that had been empowered heavily by Bush. I have no respect for the movement. I am a Republican(though some would call me a RINO since I don't just look at the party's talking points and say, "I AGREE") but I find the hypocrisy of the movement to be a massive conservative fail of the umpteenth degree. I still think we are being trolled in real life and en masse.

[Aryan Republics of Ame]

This thread has all of the leftist of NSG showing their true colors. I find Glenn Beck to be a complete moron as well as a bad actor, and he bows down to PCness just to look like a little less of a radical. But the degree of malice which some have shown here is appalling. I had grown to respect some center and even center-left posters on this site , hell there's was a few commies who are tolerable (on here anyways), but many of you have shown what you really are, just slaves to your idiotic political party and your liberal icons. You are what I originally thought you were, spiteful ideologues.

[Zephie]

As a US Veteran, dedicated to the principles this Nation is founded upon, I will not be attending this rally ran by traitors, and other such unAmerican elements, as Beck, and Palin.

Bwahahaha. Idiot.

Just wanted to quote your post again so we can all see that yes, you were personally attacking him. If I called you an idiot, it would be a personal attack. Now, you can defend it any which way you want, but facts are facts and the fact is it was a personal attack.


As for the rally, I laugh at it. Many there are angry at government's power, but didn't say a word and even supported Bush when he made the government have more and more power. I just find it funny that many there likely would have supported a militarized America living under some auspices of martial law, but shit themselves and scream when they detect the very air of socialism. Both would be bad, but hey, one is a white Republican and the other is a black Democrat. The reasonings are clear.

LOL Did you not notice all the rallies and protests against Bush? I'm a republican and I hate Bush just as much as I hate Obama.

I believed you failed to understand what I said. The Tea Party activists. Beck. Palin. They all crow on about government's power, but either supported or approved of what Bush did. The Tea Party movement is a hypocritical movement that targets Obama not because of "ohno government power ohno" but because he is a Democrat. If McCain had won and was doing this, do you think the Tea Party would be around?

That is why I have less than zero respect for the Tea Party movement. It is obviously nothing more than a conservative hive mind mindset that in the absence of any real ideas pokes around Obama's religion and place of birth while screaming about a government that had been empowered heavily by Bush. I have no respect for the movement. I am a Republican(though some would call me a RINO since I don't just look at the party's talking points and say, "I AGREE") but I find the hypocrisy of the movement to be a massive conservative fail of the umpteenth degree. I still think we are being trolled in real life and en masse.

*Shrugs* I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries, that's where I was at. I think the original protesters knew what they were protesting about, then a bunch of people joined who just overall didn't like the government. Beck and Palin don't represent that movement. It was hijacked.

[Zephie]

This thread has all of the leftist of NSG showing their true colors. I find Glenn Beck to be a complete moron as well as a bad actor, and he bows down to PCness just to look like a little less of a radical. But the degree of malice which some have shown here is appalling. I had grown to respect some center and even center-left posters on this site , hell there's was a few commies who are tolerable (on here anyways), but many of you have shown what you really are, just slaves to your idiotic political party and your liberal icons. You are what I originally thought you were, spiteful ideologues.

A NSG quote if I ever seen one.

[Holy Marsh]

And the people in the movement supported it, sadly.

[The Andromeda Islands]

The Tea Party activists. Beck. Palin. They all crow on about government's power, but either supported or approved of what Bush did. The Tea Party movement is a hypocritical movement that targets Obama not because of "ohno government power ohno" but because he is a Democrat. If McCain had won and was doing this, do you think the Tea Party would be around?

That is why I have less than zero respect for the Tea Party movement. It is obviously nothing more than a conservative hive mind mindset that in the absence of any real ideas pokes around Obama's religion and place of birth while screaming about a government that had been empowered heavily by Bush. I have no respect for the movement. I am a Republican(though some would call me a RINO since I don't just look at the party's talking points and say, "I AGREE") but I find the hypocrisy of the movement to be a massive conservative fail of the umpteenth degree. I still think we are being trolled in real life and en masse.

[Post-Unity Terra]

You are what I originally thought you were, spiteful ideologues.

That'll teach me the value of not keeping your irony meter in your pocket. I'll be limping for days.

[Ashmoria]

This thread has all of the leftist of NSG showing their true colors. I find Glenn Beck to be a complete moron as well as a bad actor, and he bows down to PCness just to look like a little less of a radical. But the degree of malice which some have shown here is appalling. I had grown to respect some center and even center-left posters on this site , hell there's was a few commies who are tolerable (on here anyways), but many of you have shown what you really are, just slaves to your idiotic political party and your liberal icons. You are what I originally thought you were, spiteful ideologues.

or maybe we just dont like glenn beck.

[Helertia]

Martin Luther King's niece is obviously a racist.

-_-

No one's called her a racist. She is homophobic, though.

Which is ironic. The niece of a great civil rights leader is against the civil rights of homosexuals.

Yes! I have a dream one day homosexuals will have the right to vote, and take a sip from the straight fountain.

Or you know...the ability to fucking adopt?

In a study by Rafkin in 1990 and Saffrin in 1996 whereby they published 57 life-story narratives of children who had grown up with homosexual parents, the authors found that in 92 percent of the cases, children mentioned one or more problems or concerns. Of 213 scored problems, 201 were attributed to homosexual parents.

http://www.mfc.org/contents/article.cfm?id=538

Umm yea, the website has ads on church and family.....not exactly a credible source.

Try again.

They source their information. Read again.

Link a actual source then. Not his job to prove your argument.

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/ ... culties-2/

Once again the source is questionable. One look at the home page reveals this.

FRR, Aug 2010 - Gays in Military = Traitors in Military

Will Western ‘Gay Rights’ Meld With Islamic Pederasty?

and from the last article, apparently homosexuals are lowering the age of consent and teaching our boys (which I took to meaning an underage male), about homosexual sex.

Ok, since you suck at the source game, I'm going to simplify things for you. If your source includes the word "Family" in it, and it has political articles against homosexuals on the home page, then it's not a good source. It's a biased source and any "research" it does is biased and should be laughed out of the room.

Try again.

I'm not playing the "source" game. You have shown to me no matter what you are presented with, you will hold onto your own beliefs and opinions. *Shrugs* Fine by me, just say it, don't waste my time.

Says the person who completely ignores many more sources of a much better quality provided by The Cat Tribe.

[Mediterreania]

As a US Veteran, dedicated to the principles this Nation is founded upon, I will not be attending this rally ran by traitors, and other such unAmerican elements, as Beck, and Palin.

Bwahahaha. Idiot.

Just wanted to quote your post again so we can all see that yes, you were personally attacking him. If I called you an idiot, it would be a personal attack. Now, you can defend it any which way you want, but facts are facts and the fact is it was a personal attack.


As for the rally, I laugh at it. Many there are angry at government's power, but didn't say a word and even supported Bush when he made the government have more and more power. I just find it funny that many there likely would have supported a militarized America living under some auspices of martial law, but shit themselves and scream when they detect the very air of socialism. Both would be bad, but hey, one is a white Republican and the other is a black Democrat. The reasonings are clear.

LOL Did you not notice all the rallies and protests against Bush? I'm a republican and I hate Bush just as much as I hate Obama.

I believed you failed to understand what I said. The Tea Party activists. Beck. Palin. They all crow on about government's power, but either supported or approved of what Bush did. The Tea Party movement is a hypocritical movement that targets Obama not because of "ohno government power ohno" but because he is a Democrat. If McCain had won and was doing this, do you think the Tea Party would be around?

That is why I have less than zero respect for the Tea Party movement. It is obviously nothing more than a conservative hive mind mindset that in the absence of any real ideas pokes around Obama's religion and place of birth while screaming about a government that had been empowered heavily by Bush. I have no respect for the movement. I am a Republican(though some would call me a RINO since I don't just look at the party's talking points and say, "I AGREE") but I find the hypocrisy of the movement to be a massive conservative fail of the umpteenth degree. I still think we are being trolled in real life and en masse.

*Shrugs* I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries, that's where I was at. I think the original protesters knew what they were protesting about, then a bunch of people joined who just overall didn't like the government. Beck and Palin don't represent that movement. It was hijacked.

Yep. In fact, David Nolan (founder of the American Libertarian Party) was compaining about the Tea Party being hijacked by the right.

[Ashmoria]

As a US Veteran, dedicated to the principles this Nation is founded upon, I will not be attending this rally ran by traitors, and other such unAmerican elements, as Beck, and Palin.

Bwahahaha. Idiot.

Just wanted to quote your post again so we can all see that yes, you were personally attacking him. If I called you an idiot, it would be a personal attack. Now, you can defend it any which way you want, but facts are facts and the fact is it was a personal attack.


As for the rally, I laugh at it. Many there are angry at government's power, but didn't say a word and even supported Bush when he made the government have more and more power. I just find it funny that many there likely would have supported a militarized America living under some auspices of martial law, but shit themselves and scream when they detect the very air of socialism. Both would be bad, but hey, one is a white Republican and the other is a black Democrat. The reasonings are clear.

LOL Did you not notice all the rallies and protests against Bush? I'm a republican and I hate Bush just as much as I hate Obama.

I believed you failed to understand what I said. The Tea Party activists. Beck. Palin. They all crow on about government's power, but either supported or approved of what Bush did. The Tea Party movement is a hypocritical movement that targets Obama not because of "ohno government power ohno" but because he is a Democrat. If McCain had won and was doing this, do you think the Tea Party would be around?

That is why I have less than zero respect for the Tea Party movement. It is obviously nothing more than a conservative hive mind mindset that in the absence of any real ideas pokes around Obama's religion and place of birth while screaming about a government that had been empowered heavily by Bush. I have no respect for the movement. I am a Republican(though some would call me a RINO since I don't just look at the party's talking points and say, "I AGREE") but I find the hypocrisy of the movement to be a massive conservative fail of the umpteenth degree. I still think we are being trolled in real life and en masse.

*Shrugs* I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries, that's where I was at. I think the original protesters knew what they were protesting about, then a bunch of people joined who just overall didn't like the government. Beck and Palin don't represent that movement. It was hijacked.

Yep. In fact, David Nolan (founder of the American Libertarian Party) was compaining about the Tea Party being hijacked by the right.

its been hijacked by the koch brothers.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010 ... ntPage=all

[The Cat-Tribe]

If anyone has or finds a link to or copy of the text of Beck's speech today, I would appreciate your linking/copying it in a post here or in a TG to me.

Thank you.

[Glorious Homeland]

Bwahahaha. Idiot.

You disrespect our veterans?

Why do you hate freedom?

I'm not disrespecting the veteran. I'm disrespecting his viewpoint. It's quite stupid to go around accusing people of being traitors without a lengthy explanation.

I'm not even going to address the second point.

It's a bit stupid to accuse the opposition of socialism, and then use that as a derogatory without explanation, but nobody gives a fuck when media popularities do it like Glenn Beck. They may as well be, they will damage the USA rather than improve it. Isn't that traitory? To claim you are working for someone and then work against them?

[Blouman Empire]

The Tea Party activists. Beck. Palin. They all crow on about government's power, but either supported or approved of what Bush did. The Tea Party movement is a hypocritical movement that targets Obama not because of "ohno government power ohno" but because he is a Democrat. If McCain had won and was doing this, do you think the Tea Party would be around?

That is why I have less than zero respect for the Tea Party movement. It is obviously nothing more than a conservative hive mind mindset that in the absence of any real ideas pokes around Obama's religion and place of birth while screaming about a government that had been empowered heavily by Bush. I have no respect for the movement. I am a Republican(though some would call me a RINO since I don't just look at the party's talking points and say, "I AGREE") but I find the hypocrisy of the movement to be a massive conservative fail of the umpteenth degree. I still think we are being trolled in real life and en masse.

It's the reason why I have no respect from people on both sides of politics. When a member of the other side does it, they cry and call it wrong when it is one of their own they either agree with it or dismiss it as something that is not important.

[Avenio]

If anyone has or finds a link to or copy of the text of Beck's speech today, I would appreciate your linking/copying it in a post here or in a TG to me.

Thank you.

I managed to find the transcript of Palin's speech, but nothing from Beck's. I'll keep looking, and I'll edit this post if I find it.

Source - Palin's Facebook Page


EDIT: Ahah! Found a Youtube video of part of Beck's speech, according to the description part two will be along shortly. I'll edit it in if and when it surfaces.

Thank you so much. Are you not so proud to be an American?

What an honor. What an honor.

We stand today at the symbolic crossroads of our nation’s history. All around us are monuments to those who have sustained us in word or deed. There in the distance stands the monument to the father of our country. And behind me, the towering presence of the Great Emancipator who secured our union at the moment of its most perilous time and freed those whose captivity was our greatest shame. And over these grounds where we are so honored to stand today, we feel the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who on this very day, two score and seven years ago, gave voice to a dream that would challenge us to honor the sacred charters of our liberty – that all men are created equal.

Now, in honoring these giants, who were linked by a solid rock foundation of faith in the one true God of justice, we must not forget the ordinary men and women on whose shoulders they stood. The ordinary called for extraordinary bravery. I am speaking, of course, of America’s finest – our men and women in uniform, a force for good in this country, and that is nothing to apologize for.

Abraham Lincoln once spoke of the “The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battle-field, and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land.” For over 200 years, those mystic chords have bound us in gratitude to those who are willingly to sacrifice, to restrain evil, to protect God-given liberty, to sacrifice all in defense of our country.

They fought for its freedom at Bunker Hill, they fought for its survival at Gettysburg, and for the ideals on which it stands – liberty and justice for all – on a thousand battlefields far from home.

It is so humbling to get to be here with you today, patriots – you who are motivated and engaged and concerned, knowing to never retreat. I must assume that you too know that we must not fundamentally transform America as some would want. We must restore America and restore her honor!

Now, I’ve been asked to speak today, not as a politician. No, as something more – something much more. I’ve been asked to speak as the mother of a soldier, and I am proud of that distinction. You know, say what you want to say about me, but I raised a combat vet, and you can’t take that away from me. I’m proud of that distinction, but it is not one that I had imagined because no woman gives birth thinking that she will hand over her child to her country, but that’s what mothers have done from ancient days.

In cities and towns across our country, you’ll find monuments to brave Americans wearing the uniforms of wars from long ago, and look down at their inscriptions, you’ll see that they were so often dedicated by mothers. In distant lands across the globe, you’ll find silent fields of white markers with the names of Americans who never came home, but who showed their dedication to their country by where they died.

We honor those who served something greater than self and made the ultimate sacrifice, as well as those who served and did come home forever changed by the battlefield. Though this rally is about “restoring honor,” for these men and women honor was never lost! If you look for the virtues that have sustained our country, you will find them in those who wear the uniform, who take the oath, who pay the price for our freedom.

And I’d like to tell you three stories of such Americans – three patriots – who stand with us today.

The first is a man named Marcus Luttrell. His story is one of raw courage in the face of overwhelming odds. It’s also a story of America’s enduring quest for justice. Remember, we went to Afghanistan seeking justice for those who were killed without mercy by evil men on September 11th. And one fateful day in Afghanistan on a mountain ridge, Marcus and three of his fellow Navy SEALs confronted the issue of justice and mercy in a decision that would forever change their lives.

They were on a mission to hunt down a high-level Taliban leader, but they were faced with a terrible dilemma when some men herding goats stumbled upon their position, and they couldn’t tell if these men were friend or foe. So the question was what to do with them? Should they kill them or should they let them go and perhaps risk compromising their mission? They took a vote. They chose mercy over self-preservation. They set their prisoners free. The vote said it was the humane thing to do. It was the American thing to do. But it sealed their fate because within hours, over a hundred Taliban forces arrived on the scene. They battled the four Navy SEALs throughout the surrounding hills. A rescue helicopter came, but it was shot down. By the time the sun set on June 28, 2005, it was one of the bloodiest days for American forces in Afghanistan.

19 brave, honorable men were lost that day. Marcus was the sole survivor. Alone, stranded, badly wounded, he limped and crawled for miles along that mountain side. What happened next is a testament to the words: “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy.” Marcus and his team showed mercy in letting their prisoners free. And later he was shown mercy by Afghan villagers who honored an ancient custom of providing hospitality to any stranger who would ask for it. They took him in. They cared for him, efused to hand him over to the Taliban. They got him back safely to our forces.

Marcus’ story teaches us that even on the worst battlefield against the most brutal enemy, we adhere to our principles. This American love of justice and mercy is what makes us a force for good in this world. Marcus is a testament to that.

Please join me in honoring retired U.S. Navy SEAL Petty Officer Marcus Luttrell.

From the time he first heard men marching to a cadence call, Eddie Wright had one dream in life, and that was to be a United States Marine. And as a Marine serving in Iraq, his company was ambushed in Fallujah. He was knocked out when a rocket propelled grenade hit his Humvee. When he came to, he saw that both his hands were gone and his leg was badly wounded.

He couldn’t fire his weapon, he could barely move, and he was bleeding to death. But he had the strength of mind to lead the men under his command, and that is exactly what he did. He kept them calm, he showed them how to stop the bleeding in his leg, he told them where to return fire, he had them call for support, and he got them out of there alive.

His composure under fire that day earned him the Bronze Star with Valor device. But if you ask him, “What did you get it for?”, he’ll tell you, “Just for doing my job.”

After a long recovery, Eddie continued to serve as a martial arts instructor. He resigned from his beloved Marine Corps a few years ago, but he still lives by the motto: “Once a Marine, always a Marine.”

And if you want to see the American spirit of never retreating, no matter the odds – of steady confidence and optimism, no matter the setbacks – look at Eddie’s story. No matter how tough times are, Americans always pull through. As Eddie put it himself: “We don’t really foster the attitude of I can’t. When you have an obstacle in front of you, you just keep putting one foot in front of the other, and focus on what you can.”

So, please join me in honoring retired Marine Sergeant James “Eddie” Wright.

Tom Kirk was an Air Force squadron commander and a combat pilot who had flown over 150 missions in Korea and Vietnam. One day on a routine mission over Hanoi, his plane was shot down. He spent the next five and a half years in that living hell known as the Hanoi Hilton.

Like his fellow prisoners, Tom endured the beatings, the torture, the hunger, the years of isolation. He described it, saying, “There was nothing to do, nothing to read, nothing to write. You had to just sit there in absolute boredom, loneliness, frustration, and fear. You had to live one day at a time, because you had no idea how long you were going to be there.”

After two years of solitary confinement, pacing back and forth in his cell — three and a half steps across, three and a half steps deep – Tom was finally moved to a larger holding cell with 45 other Americans prisoners, among them was a man named John McCain. In circumstances that defy description, this band of brothers kept each other alive, and one by one, they came home.

Tom was released on March 14, 1973. You might think that a man who had suffered so much for his country would be bitter and broken by it. But Tom’s heart was only filled with love – love for America – that special love of country that we call patriotism.

Tom wrote, “Patriotism has become, for many, a ‘corny’ thing. For me, it is more important now than at any time in my life. How wonderful it is to be an American come home!”

Friends, please join me in honoring retired Air Force Colonel Tom Kirk.

My fellow Americans, each one of these men here today faced terrible sufferings, overwhelming set-backs, and impossible odds.

And they endured! And their stories are America’s story.

We will always come through. We will never give up, and we shall endure because we live by that moral strength that we call grace. Because though we’ve often skirted a precipice, a providential hand has always guided us to a better future.

And I know that many of us today, we are worried about what we face. Sometimes our challenges, they just seem insurmountable.

But, here, together, at the crossroads of our history, may this day be the change point!

Look around you. You’re not alone. You are Americans!

You have the same steel spine and the moral courage of Washington and Lincoln and Martin Luther King. It is in you. It will sustain you as it sustained them.

So with pride in the red, white, and blue; with gratitude to our men and women in uniform; let’s stand together! Let’s stand with honor! Let’s restore America!

God bless you! And God bless America!