Glenn Beck's 8-28 Rally in Washington D.C.

[Holy Paradise]

And there it went, and it's done, and everything that was expected took place. From what I've heard about it, my opinion is, "Meh."

[Iniika]

Martin Luther King's niece is obviously a racist.

-_-

No one's called her a racist. He is homophobic, though.

Why is she a homophobe?

Smear campaigns are smear-ish.


Anyways, this entire event has been called a mockery of Martin Luther King and racist... while Martin Luther King's family members are attending! Criticism of the "RESTORING HONOR" rally which benefits the FAMILIES OF DEAD TROOPS is ludicrous.

For the 4th time, she spent quite a while talking about the the insitution of marriage was under attack from us evil gays. As you would call anyone who claimed that inter-racial marriage is a threat the the institution of marriage a racist, I call her a homophobe.

Anything that isn't pro-gay is homophobic?

Neutral is always an option.

[Tmutarakhan]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

[Holy Paradise]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

[Augarundus]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

[The United Good]

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/08/28/washington-conservative-rally.html#socialcomments

The CBC site posted a brief blurb on the rally and counter rally. Several Canadians commented, most believing Beck & Palin are nuts.

[New Accord]

Since the rally is on...Marcus Luttrell background to smack you liberal folk upside the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irC4K7Q4JCo
I think I'll be picking up that book. What about you?
The following is too graphic for the neo-liberal pansy's so just comment on the rally itself. Avoid the next links and go straight to the next question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nzZrUndMAs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QanOI9crF1s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FPLCKdI_fs&feature=related
Mini movie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx-63pfxJjE

Glenn Beck may be a nutter on the Religious side...(I don't believe in gods, gods, or goddesses...rather silly throwback to simple minded tribes)

Addressing the conservative rally, Mr Beck - a presenter for Fox News - said the US had "wandered in darkness" for too long. "America today begins to turn back to God," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11114172
SEE VIDEO FROM RALLY ON THAT PAGE
Beck looks more like a televangelist selling his religion than a political wackjob.
Shudder the thought!....isn't there supposed to be a division between Church and State? Are the Teabaggers all teabagging to Jesus?

Beck talks faith in rally....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/28/glenn.beck.rally/index.html

WHEN will you civilized and educated folk Wake the fuck Up and realize there's no cloud-surfing deity out there watching you and caring/not caring? Create your own destiny. Nobody but yourselves to blame for your mistakes and no one to apologize to. Praying to god, gods, or goddesses makes as much sense as worshiping the Sun as we used to. You get blinded and stupid.
(End Rant.)

[Zephie]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

I guess we live in a Theocracy because it is illegal to kill.

[Holy Paradise]

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/08/28/washington-conservative-rally.html#socialcomments

The CBC site posted a brief blurb on the rally and counter rally. Several Canadians commented, most believing Beck & Palin are nuts.

Well, Canada tends to be more center-left on the political spectrum (relative to American political beliefs, that is.) So the fact that many Canadians are in disagreement is none too surprising.

[Holy Paradise]

Since the rally is on...Marcus Luttrell background to smack you liberal folk upside the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irC4K7Q4JCo
I think I'll be picking up that book. What about you?
The following is too graphic for the neo-liberal pansy's so just comment on the rally itself. Avoid the next links and go straight to the next question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nzZrUndMAs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QanOI9crF1s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FPLCKdI_fs&feature=related
Mini movie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx-63pfxJjE

Glenn Beck may be a nutter on the Religious side...(I don't believe in gods, gods, or goddesses...rather silly throwback to simple minded tribes)

Addressing the conservative rally, Mr Beck - a presenter for Fox News - said the US had "wandered in darkness" for too long. "America today begins to turn back to God," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11114172
SEE VIDEO FROM RALLY ON THAT PAGE
Beck looks more like a televangelist selling his religion than a political wackjob.
Shudder the thought!....isn't there supposed to be a division between Church and State? Are the Teabaggers all teabagging to Jesus?

Beck talks faith in rally....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/28/glenn.beck.rally/index.html

WHEN will you civilized and educated folk Wake the fuck Up and realize there's no cloud-surfing deity out there watching you and caring/not caring? Create your own destiny. Nobody but yourselves to blame for your mistakes and no one to apologize to. Praying to god, gods, or goddesses makes as much sense as worshiping the Sun as we used to. You get blinded and stupid.
(End Rant.)

Take a deep breath, and relax. I understand that we all feel emotions about this issue, but just take a breather okay?

[Rolling squid]

Anything that isn't pro-gay is homophobic?

Talking about how marriage is under attack because gays can get married is a far cry from just not being pro gay.

[Holy Paradise]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

I guess we live in a Theocracy because it is illegal to kill.

Well, murder itself is not just a wrong in religions, but it goes against the natural law.

There are better examples of U.S. laws that have their basis in religious ideals.

[Tmutarakhan]

No, because the preachers were stating that Man was equal under the eyes of God, that we have inalienable rights from our Creator, and not some King or other Politician.

No no no, that was the Freemasons.
The preachers were saying that God had picked out a favored few, the "elect", including themselves, naturally.

[Rolling squid]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

I guess we live in a Theocracy because it is illegal to kill.

Actually, in a theocracy, killing would be encouraged. Can't be having any heathens around to ask difficult questions.

[Augarundus]

For the 4th time, she spent quite a while talking about the the insitution of marriage was under attack from us evil gays. As you would call anyone who claimed that inter-racial marriage is a threat the the institution of marriage a racist, I call her a homophobe.

So? She feels that gay marriage opposes her religious ideals.

Nothing wrong with that: I promote legalization of gay marriage, but I don't care if religions want to recognize it or not. If it interferes with their religious ideals, then they're free to denounce it. It doesn't make them homophobes: they don't promote lynching or anything.

[The United Good]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

Remember, Iran has a democratically elected government & Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not a religious figure.
Does that mean most of you Americans would be good with the US becoming the Christian equivilent of Iran, as long evangelical leaders simply set the agenda, but leave the government of enact & enforce it?

[Holy Paradise]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

I guess we live in a Theocracy because it is illegal to kill.

Actually, in a theocracy, killing would be incouaged. Can't be having any heathens around to ask difficult questions.

Not necessarily. Depends on the religion. In the case of a vast number of faiths, yes, but I doubt that a theocracy of Unitarian Universalists would be a particularly brutal one (Although the idea of them forming a theocracy probably would run counter to their own beliefs).

[Zephie]

For the 4th time, she spent quite a while talking about the the insitution of marriage was under attack from us evil gays. As you would call anyone who claimed that inter-racial marriage is a threat the the institution of marriage a racist, I call her a homophobe.

So? She feels that gay marriage opposes her religious ideals.

Nothing wrong with that: I promote legalization of gay marriage, but I don't care if religions want to recognize it or not. If it interferes with their religious ideals, then they're free to denounce it. It doesn't make them homophobes: they don't promote lynching or anything.

Exactly, and bashing on their religion is not exactly being "tolerant." Some people have a serious superiority complex because they are atheist.

[Augarundus]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

Remember, Iran has a democratically elected government & Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not a religious figure.
Does that mean most of you Americans would be good with the US becoming the Christian equivilent of Iran, as long evangelical leaders simply set the agenda, but leave the government of enact & enforce it?

1) I actually oppose faith in government: I'm an Objectivist.

2) Iran is a theocracy because the head-of-state (the Supreme Leader) IS a religious figure and the nation is governed based entirely on Shariah law.

3) I would contest that Ahmadinewhatever is not democratically elected...

[Augarundus]

For the 4th time, she spent quite a while talking about the the insitution of marriage was under attack from us evil gays. As you would call anyone who claimed that inter-racial marriage is a threat the the institution of marriage a racist, I call her a homophobe.

So? She feels that gay marriage opposes her religious ideals.

Nothing wrong with that: I promote legalization of gay marriage, but I don't care if religions want to recognize it or not. If it interferes with their religious ideals, then they're free to denounce it. It doesn't make them homophobes: they don't promote lynching or anything.

Exactly, and bashing on their religion is not exactly being "tolerant." Some people have a serious superiority complex because they are atheist.

...wut?

Anyways, if you're insinuating that the Glenn Beck rally promotes intolerance, I suggest looking back to yesterday, 8/27... when leaders of many Christian faiths, Catholicism, Judaism and, I believe, Islam, gave sermons that were written pre-1776 (see: Glenn Beck Kennedy Center).

[Zephie]

For the 4th time, she spent quite a while talking about the the insitution of marriage was under attack from us evil gays. As you would call anyone who claimed that inter-racial marriage is a threat the the institution of marriage a racist, I call her a homophobe.

So? She feels that gay marriage opposes her religious ideals.

Nothing wrong with that: I promote legalization of gay marriage, but I don't care if religions want to recognize it or not. If it interferes with their religious ideals, then they're free to denounce it. It doesn't make them homophobes: they don't promote lynching or anything.

Exactly, and bashing on their religion is not exactly being "tolerant." Some people have a serious superiority complex because they are atheist.

...wut?

Anyways, if you're insinuating that the Glenn Beck rally promotes intolerance, I suggest looking back to yesterday, 8/27... when leaders of many Christian faiths, Catholicism, Judaism and, I believe, Islam, gave sermons that were written pre-1776 (see: Glenn Beck Kennedy Center).

No, I was agreeing with you, lol.

[Holy Paradise]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

Remember, Iran has a democratically elected government & Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not a religious figure.
Does that mean most of you Americans would be good with the US becoming the Christian equivilent of Iran, as long evangelical leaders simply set the agenda, but leave the government of enact & enforce it?

But I thought that there were official positions of power in Iran that are solely for Islamic officials, if I am correct. Such as the Guardian Council (6 of the 12 officials must be Islamic clerics) and the Assembly of Experts (86 Islamic clerics)

[Rolling squid]

Having a religion doesn't make you a theocrat.

"but attempting to force gov. policy to follow ones own, religious ideals does"

I thought the definition of theocracy is when a church itself is the government, not just the government having laws that are based on religious ideals.

I guess we live in a Theocracy because it is illegal to kill.

Actually, in a theocracy, killing would be incouaged. Can't be having any heathens around to ask difficult questions.

Not necessarily. Depends on the religion. In the case of a vast number of faiths, yes, but I doubt that a theocracy of Unitarian Universalists would be a particularly brutal one (Although the idea of them forming a theocracy probably would run counter to their own beliefs).

Pretty much any religion that actually calls for and supports the creation of a theocracy is going to be killing heathens at some point.

[Grave_n_idle]

For the 4th time, she spent quite a while talking about the the insitution of marriage was under attack from us evil gays. As you would call anyone who claimed that inter-racial marriage is a threat the the institution of marriage a racist, I call her a homophobe.

So? She feels that gay marriage opposes her religious ideals.

Nothing wrong with that:

Wrong.

Other people should not be bound to laws just to satisfy your religious ideals - thus, if someone is trying to set the law of the land based on that premise, there very much is something 'wrong with that'.

(Note: I think it's obvious - but it always pays to doublecheck - 'your' ideals are not relating to YOU personally, it's the nonspecific collective 'you').

[New Accord]

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/08/28/washington-conservative-rally.html#socialcomments

The CBC site posted a brief blurb on the rally and counter rally. Several Canadians commented, most believing Beck & Palin are nuts.

Well, Canada tends to be more center-left on the political spectrum (relative to American political beliefs, that is.) So the fact that many Canadians are in disagreement is none too surprising.

Canadians Ben Dover, and Takit Rah were voted most popular TV personalities for the 3rd year in a row due to their leftist and slightly bent political positions. There's a reason the flag is 2/3's Red.