Do women ask to be sexually harrassed/assaulted?

[Tokos]

*punches Geniasis' balls*

Yep, works like a charm.

Tsk tsk punching a man in the balls is a very bad idea. That is truly asking for it, "it" being a 5-second berserker rage in the time between the fist connecting and the pain kicking in.

[Kazerne]

First off, wow. Trolling much?

Assuming that the OP is serious, however, this is my answer: If a woman is stupid enough to dress in a manner that she KNOWS will turn heads, then she had better be smart enough to realize that some guys don't get the idea of 'look, do not touch.' Personally, I am uncomfortable whenever my female friends dress in a provocative manner, because I know that my proffesionalism will begin to erode.

On the man's part, however, a large amount of self-control is needed for situations like that. The woman might have 'asked for it', but that's no excuse to sexually harass or assault them.

[Muravyets]

*punches Geniasis' balls*

Yep, works like a charm.

Tsk tsk punching a man in the balls is a very bad idea. That is truly asking for it, "it" being a 5-second berserker rage in the time between the fist connecting and the pain kicking in.

It was his idea!

Scroll back a few pages -- it's the Geniasis Plan for Reciprocity: Men get to slap women's asses without permission; women get to punch men's nuts without permission. It is a measure to advance social fairness.

[Grainne Ni Malley]

No one is blamming the victim. I just sometimes wonder if people take responsibilty for themselves sometimes. If you weren't at that party with kids 5 years older than you doing drugs, do you think you would have been raped.

Allow me to draw a parallel situation.
A businessman is walking to his car after a late night at the office. He's wearing a suit and a fancy watch, and clearly is more well-off than most. A random passerby decides to relieve him of said watch. Would it be the businessman's fault that he was robbed because he knowingly was out at night and richly dressed?

While, in this example, the businessman is less than street-smart, the perpetration of a crime against him is NOT his fault. People should be able to go wherever they want, wearing whatever they chose, without having to fear for their safety. Dumping blame on the victim, blissfully naive or otherwise, is *I will not flame, I will not flame*... um, ridiculous.

If we're going to go that route, just shut down every prison and let all the criminals run free. Because they can't help it, right? They have no control over their own actions when presented with temptation and, therefore, are unaccountable for their crimes. So, instead of crime prevention, we'll just have victim prevention. Better yet, let's just deposit all non-criminals in prisons for their own safety.

<------ I cannot emphasize the rolly eyes enough!

[Illithar]

*punches Geniasis' balls*

Yep, works like a charm.

Tsk tsk punching a man in the balls is a very bad idea. That is truly asking for it, "it" being a 5-second berserker rage in the time between the fist connecting and the pain kicking in.

It was his idea!

Scroll back a few pages -- it's the Geniasis Plan for Reciprocity: Men get to slap women's asses without permission; women get to punch men's nuts without permission. It is a measure to advance social fairness.

Sounds painful. Might work though...(finds an ass to slap)

[Communista Party Land]

Women ask to be sexually harrased. Yep.

[Geniasis]

Because each one of us is answerable to every man on the planet. Apparently.

Less talky, more sammich.

*slaps Muravyets' ass*

*punches Geniasis' balls*

Yep, works like a charm.

....yeah.... it works....

*weeps quietly in the corner*

[Knowlandia]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

[Sado Arma]

this is a stoOopid question it implies that all women are this way or that . some women get unwanted attention cause they bring it on themselves , whil other get unwanted attention that is undeserved.. stating this Q' as stated implies one thing about all women. Some women do ask to assaulted, they speak to men as if they can 'take em in a fight ' and as if all men will behave the same when up against an angry women. a woman can push a button on a man with no hisory of anger at a women, and drive him to a mental place where a 'blind rage' lives, and when it over you have to explain to the cops why you haven't seen her in weeks, and why you didn't report her missing. some women are just stoOopid and finds themslves in over their head, sad but true.

[Iron Chariots]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

[Geniasis]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

But... all the responsibility is on the rapist, the rapist is the one who ultimately decided to rape after all.

[Knowlandia]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists. But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

[Illithar]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists. But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

I wouldn't ground her...I'd probably get her therapy

[Grainne Ni Malley]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

IKR? So, it's the victims who aren't taking responsibility and blaming everyone else... not the rapist.

Heck, I think I'm going to go rob a bank. After all, it's their fault for having all that money. Money whores. How dare they be so irresponsible! Though, I think I'm going to go to Australia to do it. Just in case it turns out I'm the one who's guilty for having no self-control and not the bank's for being so darn tempting.

[Knowlandia]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists. But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

I wouldn't ground her...I'd probably get her therapy

Well, i'd do that too, but if I had made the appearance that I was not mad at her, i'd be a bad parent.

[Geniasis]

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

If she's just been raped, it seems almost cruel to also ground her. Not to mention superfluous. If she's just been raped, I'd think that perhaps she's suffered enough.

[Tokos]

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists.

Errrr why? Hugely disproportionate much?

But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

The daughter did very stupid things comparable to sauntering about in the road because it seemed safe, which wouldn't at all warrant the huge injuries sustained from a car hitting you. Grounding would hardly be necessary, in the same way people hit by cars tend to become somewhat more cautious on roads.

[Muravyets]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists. But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

Obviously you would tell her how it was her fault that she got raped because she did The Wrong Thing in The Wrong Place, that magically caused her to be raped. According to Daddy who tells her how women should live and what happens to bad girls who don't do The Right Thing.

But I love how you've still been claiming you don't blame the victims. Nope, you'd just punish her for being the victim of a violent crime, but oh, not "blame" her.

[Knowlandia]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists. But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

No, obviously you would tell her how it was her fault that she got raped because she did The Wrong Thing in The Wrong Place, that magically caused her to be raped. According to Daddy who tells her how women should live and what happens to bad girls who don't do The Right Thing.

I'm not sure what your getting at here? That my hypothetical 16 year old daughter has all the right to go to college parties at 2 in the morning?

[Geniasis]

Obviously you would tell her how it was her fault that she got raped because she did The Wrong Thing in The Wrong Place, that magically caused her to be raped. According to Daddy who tells her how women should live and what happens to bad girls who don't do The Right Thing.

But I love how you've still been claiming you don't blame the victims. Nope, you'd just punish her for being the victim of a violent crime, but oh, not "blame" her.

It wouldn't have happened if she'd been wearing her chastity belt with spikes on the inside(?), interpret that how you will.

[Sdaeriji]

Well, i'd do that too, but if I had made the appearance that I was not mad at her, i'd be a bad parent.

Right. Heaping undeserved blame on your daughter in possibly the most fragile moment of her entire life wouldn't make you a bad parent, but appearing sympathetic towards a rape victim would.

[Muravyets]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists. But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

No, obviously you would tell her how it was her fault that she got raped because she did The Wrong Thing in The Wrong Place, that magically caused her to be raped. According to Daddy who tells her how women should live and what happens to bad girls who don't do The Right Thing.

I'm not sure what your getting at here? That my hypothetical 16 year old daughter has all the right to go to college parties at 2 in the morning?

I'm getting that entirely. She does something that you don't approve of. She gets raped. You punish her for it. Yeah, sure, World's Greatest Dad is you, all right. You do realize that what you're saying is an absolutely disgusting display of misogynistic cruelty, right? I mean, you're doing that on purpose, right? Because as bad as that is, I'd hate to think you were being this hateful out of pure ignorance.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists. But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

So you would blame your 16 year old daughter for being raped?

Sure, she shouldn't have been at a college party without your permission, as her parent, but it is not her fault either if some douche bag decides to rape her. Regardless of her being at a party she shouldn't be, her getting raped is not her fault but that of the rapist.

[Iron Chariots]

What I do not get is why this topic is still being debated. The answer is simple, and has been given by more than one poster already: no, women do not ask to be sexually harassed or assaulted. That some people still argue that they do because of their choice of clothing is incredibly backwards.

Of course they don't "ask" for it. If they ask to be raped, it isn't techinically rape, is it? People just need to take precuations and be safe. I don't like how people don't take responsibility anymore, and just blame everything on other people.

Yeah, how dare we place all the blame on rapists for raping people? Just who do we think we are to judge them?

If you read my previous posts, you would know I think rapists are very much to blame. I support capital punishment for rapists. But like I said, crime is preventable. If my 16 year old daughter came home at 2 am saying she got raped at a college party she went to, after calling the police, I would ground her for a year. Why the fuck was she at a college party? What the hell was she doing out at 2 am!?

I suppose you would pitty her and tell her she did nothing wrong, correct?

Nothing to put her at fault, even a little bit, for being raped. 100% of the blame belongs to the rapist.

[Geniasis]

I'm not sure what your getting at here? That my hypothetical 16 year old daughter has all the right to go to college parties at 2 in the morning?

It's not that we don't understand your concern of this part of the issue. We do.

It's just that when she's just been raped, it doesn't seem like quite the right time to address that issue. If I were an officer, and a guy just got hit by a drunk driver, and is grievously injured, do I write a ticket for his expired license tags?