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Postby Fulma » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:04 pm

No women never ask for assult/harrassed. But it is easy for a man to be labed with the term. Hears I story it happend one day when playing basketball. I was playing guarding a girl(girl's and guys play on the same teams at my school) and when I moved my arm to block her shoot, my hand brushed her breast. She got angery at me and for weeks said I tried to assult her. So it can be easy for some people to say it was a guys fault and most if not all the time it was a guys fault. Maybe I should not have blocked, but hey. Point is.
1: girls=/= assult. EVERY!!
2:Guys can be complet jerks.
3: look at all the evidence before acussing some one.
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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:13 pm

I am deeply disturbed by the concept that women who dress provocatively are "inviting" sexual harassment or assault. The fact that anyone can even consider this pitiful excuse to victimize women as potentially valid is indicative of deep-seated issues that require a mental health evaluation.

If a grown person molests a toddler, people don't stand about saying, "Well, she was showing a bit of leg there, and... well, those pink Huggies... she was just asking for it!"

Pull your head out of your *expletive deleted* and place the blame where it truly lies. With the criminal. The fact that perverts exist is undeniable. The thought that women should dress accordingly is idiotic. Self-control. Learn it.
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Postby Dimoniquid » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:13 pm

Fulma wrote:No women never ask for assult/harrassed. But it is easy for a man to be labed with the term. Hears I story it happend one day when playing basketball. I was playing guarding a girl(girl's and guys play on the same teams at my school) and when I moved my arm to block her shoot, my hand brushed her breast. She got angery at me and for weeks said I tried to assult her. So it can be easy for some people to say it was a guys fault and most if not all the time it was a guys fault. Maybe I should not have blocked, but hey. Point is.
1: girls=/= assult. EVERY!!
2:Guys can be complet jerks.
3: look at all the evidence before acussing some one.

That's why girls shouldn't be on the same team as us - that's why they don't play rugby, and do their girly netball.

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Postby Fulma » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:20 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:
Fulma wrote:No women never ask for assult/harrassed. But it is easy for a man to be labed with the term. Hears I story it happend one day when playing basketball. I was playing guarding a girl(girl's and guys play on the same teams at my school) and when I moved my arm to block her shoot, my hand brushed her breast. She got angery at me and for weeks said I tried to assult her. So it can be easy for some people to say it was a guys fault and most if not all the time it was a guys fault. Maybe I should not have blocked, but hey. Point is.
1: girls=/= assult. EVERY!!
2:Guys can be complet jerks.
3: look at all the evidence before acussing some one.

That's why girls shouldn't be on the same team as us - that's why they don't play rugby, and do their girly netball.

Trust me....they can be as tough as us guy maybe more so.
But any ways, why do people say the girl was asking for it? I dont see it.
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Postby Geniasis » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:23 pm

Fulma wrote:Trust me....they can be as tough as us guy maybe more so.
But any ways, why do people say the girl was asking for it? I dont see it.


Because it's the bacon's fault if it gets raped by a toaster.

The, uh, the analogy broke down somewhere along the way.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:25 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:
Fulma wrote:No women never ask for assult/harrassed. But it is easy for a man to be labed with the term. Hears I story it happend one day when playing basketball. I was playing guarding a girl(girl's and guys play on the same teams at my school) and when I moved my arm to block her shoot, my hand brushed her breast. She got angery at me and for weeks said I tried to assult her. So it can be easy for some people to say it was a guys fault and most if not all the time it was a guys fault. Maybe I should not have blocked, but hey. Point is.
1: girls=/= assult. EVERY!!
2:Guys can be complet jerks.
3: look at all the evidence before acussing some one.

That's why girls shouldn't be on the same team as us - that's why they don't play rugby, and do their girly netball.

Or maybe we have more sense? :p
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Postby Ishkaebibble » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:26 pm

Fulma wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
Fulma wrote:No women never ask for assult/harrassed. But it is easy for a man to be labed with the term. Hears I story it happend one day when playing basketball. I was playing guarding a girl(girl's and guys play on the same teams at my school) and when I moved my arm to block her shoot, my hand brushed her breast. She got angery at me and for weeks said I tried to assult her. So it can be easy for some people to say it was a guys fault and most if not all the time it was a guys fault. Maybe I should not have blocked, but hey. Point is.
1: girls=/= assult. EVERY!!
2:Guys can be complet jerks.
3: look at all the evidence before acussing some one.

That's why girls shouldn't be on the same team as us - that's why they don't play rugby, and do their girly netball.

Trust me....they can be as tough as us guy maybe more so.
But any ways, why do people say the girl was asking for it? I dont see it.

I dont see it either. I think it is just hog wash and it like the phrase boys will be boys. That one is commonly used to excuse a man of raping a girl.

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Postby Fulma » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:28 pm

And with this note I will leave this thread.

So never is it okay that an assult can be labealed becuase of their clothes. And same for guys. It's just that who ever does the assulting needs to get their hormons under control. and this is coming from a teenager with those same raging hormones. Now keep it under control and never will it becoem acceptabel to say "well look at those cloths. She had it coming." Who has it coming is the guy/ girl/ whoever did it. And I trust the person who is found to be the assulter get alot of time. Yes I am the kind of guy who opens doors, and stands up for the girl that he does not even know.
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Postby Tokos » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:03 pm

Ishkaebibble wrote:I dont see it either. I think it is just hog wash and it like the phrase boys will be boys. That one is commonly used to excuse a man of raping a girl.


Since when did that stand up in court?

Yes I am the kind of guy who opens doors, and stands up for the girl that he does not even know.


I hope you mean figuratively stand up and not literally stand up when they enter the room!

I never saw how opening doors is some kind of gentlemanly symbol. It is normal for decent people to hold the door open for anyone who's just behind them.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:08 pm

The Norwegian Blue wrote:
Ryadn wrote:
DaWoad wrote:
Agadar wrote:
Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, these have no merit whatsoever. The idea of blaming the victim is idiotic.


1. Woman dresses provocatively (but she doesn't want to arouse men!)
2. Man can't help himself, decides to get verbal or touchy
3. IT'S THE MAN'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

That situation is equal to the following:

1. Offer cookie to dog (but you don't want the dog to eat the cookie!)
2. Dog can't help himself, decides to eat the cookie
3. IT'S THE DOG'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

Sure it is, except that people have what we like to call "self control" and women are not biscuits.


No indeed. I believe it was determined on the old Jolt boards that we're bacon and/or toasters.


No, no, men are toasters. I think the logic (to the extent you can call it that) was "when you push the button on a toaster, it automatically gets hot, ergo, when you look sexy to a man, he automatically rapes you."

It was women = bacon, men = dogs who cannot resist bacon, sexy clothes = pushing button on toaster, men = appliances who are also dogs and who automatically rape bacon. How could you forget such a clear and sensible argument? :P

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Postby Muravyets » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:08 pm

Ryadn wrote:
DaWoad wrote:
Agadar wrote:
Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, these have no merit whatsoever. The idea of blaming the victim is idiotic.


1. Woman dresses provocatively (but she doesn't want to arouse men!)
2. Man can't help himself, decides to get verbal or touchy
3. IT'S THE MAN'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

That situation is equal to the following:

1. Offer cookie to dog (but you don't want the dog to eat the cookie!)
2. Dog can't help himself, decides to eat the cookie
3. IT'S THE DOG'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

Sure it is, except that people have what we like to call "self control" and women are not biscuits.


No indeed. I believe it was determined on the old Jolt boards that we're bacon and/or toasters.

Women are bacon, men are toasters. It's the update from that old Venus/Mars thing.
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Postby Fulma » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:09 pm

Tokos wrote:
Ishkaebibble wrote:I dont see it either. I think it is just hog wash and it like the phrase boys will be boys. That one is commonly used to excuse a man of raping a girl.


Since when did that stand up in court?

Yes I am the kind of guy who opens doors, and stands up for the girl that he does not even know.


I hope you mean figuratively stand up and not literally stand up when they enter the room!

I never saw how opening doors is some kind of gentlemanly symbol. It is normal for decent people to hold the door open for anyone who's just behind them.

I will defend them and if I see I girl I like, as in atractided to but I act like an idot.
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Postby Muravyets » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:10 pm

The Norwegian Blue wrote:
Ryadn wrote:
DaWoad wrote:
Agadar wrote:
Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, these have no merit whatsoever. The idea of blaming the victim is idiotic.


1. Woman dresses provocatively (but she doesn't want to arouse men!)
2. Man can't help himself, decides to get verbal or touchy
3. IT'S THE MAN'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

That situation is equal to the following:

1. Offer cookie to dog (but you don't want the dog to eat the cookie!)
2. Dog can't help himself, decides to eat the cookie
3. IT'S THE DOG'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

Sure it is, except that people have what we like to call "self control" and women are not biscuits.


No indeed. I believe it was determined on the old Jolt boards that we're bacon and/or toasters.


No, no, men are toasters. I think the logic (to the extent you can call it that) was "when you push the button on a toaster, it automatically gets hot, ergo, when you look sexy to a man, he automatically rapes you."

It was women = bacon, men = dogs who cannot resist bacon, sexy clothes = pushing button on toaster, men = appliances who are also dogs and who automatically rape bacon. How could you forget such a clear and sensible argument? :P

How could you hold that in your brain all this time? :lol2:
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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:12 pm

Muravyets wrote:
Ryadn wrote:
DaWoad wrote:
Agadar wrote:
Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, these have no merit whatsoever. The idea of blaming the victim is idiotic.


1. Woman dresses provocatively (but she doesn't want to arouse men!)
2. Man can't help himself, decides to get verbal or touchy
3. IT'S THE MAN'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

That situation is equal to the following:

1. Offer cookie to dog (but you don't want the dog to eat the cookie!)
2. Dog can't help himself, decides to eat the cookie
3. IT'S THE DOG'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

Sure it is, except that people have what we like to call "self control" and women are not biscuits.


No indeed. I believe it was determined on the old Jolt boards that we're bacon and/or toasters.

Women are bacon, men are toasters. It's the update from that old Venus/Mars thing.


That just makes no sense. Think about it. The meaty bacon/phallic symbol goes inside the toaster's orifice and then when the toaster is done, the bacon gets shot out. Although, sometimes the bacon cooks prematurely.

EDIT: Ooh, also bacon spits. Just saying.
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Postby Glorious Homeland » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:12 pm

Scalietti wrote:You read the question, allow me to elaborate.

It is the thought of many that younger girls who dress scantily and provocatively are inviting harrassment and other unwanted contact upon them. In other words, if the girls didn't dress this way, they wouldn't find themself in that predicament. The same could also be said about their carriage, if them acted decently, modestly, no unwanted contact would be thrust upon them either.

Thoughts NSG? I reckon these theories have merit, but certainly aren't the answer.

Only if we have a 7th century Arabian understanding, that men can't control themselves and so women should have to dress appropriately to compensate. It isn't the victim's fault. Although a filthy tease is always annoying, it still doesn't justify anything.

On a similar note!.. jailbait should wear a burqa until they are legal. [irony]

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Postby Muravyets » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:15 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
Ryadn wrote:
DaWoad wrote:
Agadar wrote:
Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, these have no merit whatsoever. The idea of blaming the victim is idiotic.


1. Woman dresses provocatively (but she doesn't want to arouse men!)
2. Man can't help himself, decides to get verbal or touchy
3. IT'S THE MAN'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

That situation is equal to the following:

1. Offer cookie to dog (but you don't want the dog to eat the cookie!)
2. Dog can't help himself, decides to eat the cookie
3. IT'S THE DOG'S FAULT! ARREST HIM!

Sure it is, except that people have what we like to call "self control" and women are not biscuits.


No indeed. I believe it was determined on the old Jolt boards that we're bacon and/or toasters.

Women are bacon, men are toasters. It's the update from that old Venus/Mars thing.


That just makes no sense. Think about it. The meaty bacon/phallic symbol goes inside the toaster's orifice and then when the toaster is done, the bacon gets shot out. Although, sometimes the bacon cooks prematurely.

EDIT: Ooh, also bacon spits. Just saying.

Well, that point being gotten completely backwards clearly explains a lot about the guy who made the argument originally. ;)
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Postby Geniasis » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:15 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:That just makes no sense. Think about it. The meaty bacon/phallic symbol goes inside the toaster's orifice and then when the toaster is done, the bacon gets shot out. Although, sometimes the bacon cooks prematurely.

EDIT: Ooh, also bacon spits. Just saying.


Are you telling me that when I'm having sex with a woman, her vagina is slowly cooking my penis?

Thanks, like I didn't have enough issues.
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Postby Rashuta » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:16 pm

Scalietti wrote:You read the question, allow me to elaborate.

It is the thought of many that younger girls who dress scantily and provocatively are inviting harrassment and other unwanted contact upon them. In other words, if the girls didn't dress this way, they wouldn't find themself in that predicament. The same could also be said about their carriage, if them acted decently, modestly, no unwanted contact would be thrust upon them either.

Thoughts NSG? I reckon these theories have merit, but certainly aren't the answer.

Well they do want attention, but often not from those they want it from, so basically yes, they are throwing bait in the water
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:17 pm

Rashuta wrote:
Scalietti wrote:You read the question, allow me to elaborate.

It is the thought of many that younger girls who dress scantily and provocatively are inviting harrassment and other unwanted contact upon them. In other words, if the girls didn't dress this way, they wouldn't find themself in that predicament. The same could also be said about their carriage, if them acted decently, modestly, no unwanted contact would be thrust upon them either.

Thoughts NSG? I reckon these theories have merit, but certainly aren't the answer.

Well they do want attention, but often not from those they want it from, so basically yes, they are throwing bait in the water

So now men are sharks? This is getting ridiculous.

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Postby Muravyets » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:18 pm

Rashuta wrote:
Scalietti wrote:You read the question, allow me to elaborate.

It is the thought of many that younger girls who dress scantily and provocatively are inviting harrassment and other unwanted contact upon them. In other words, if the girls didn't dress this way, they wouldn't find themself in that predicament. The same could also be said about their carriage, if them acted decently, modestly, no unwanted contact would be thrust upon them either.

Thoughts NSG? I reckon these theories have merit, but certainly aren't the answer.

Well they do want attention, but often not from those they want it from, so basically yes, they are throwing bait in the water

So now men are fish? Man, men just can't be made brainless enough to suit the needs of people who make excuses for sex crimes.
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Postby Geniasis » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:18 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Rashuta wrote:
Scalietti wrote:You read the question, allow me to elaborate.

It is the thought of many that younger girls who dress scantily and provocatively are inviting harrassment and other unwanted contact upon them. In other words, if the girls didn't dress this way, they wouldn't find themself in that predicament. The same could also be said about their carriage, if them acted decently, modestly, no unwanted contact would be thrust upon them either.

Thoughts NSG? I reckon these theories have merit, but certainly aren't the answer.

Well they do want attention, but often not from those they want it from, so basically yes, they are throwing bait in the water

So now men are sharks? This is getting ridiculous.


Half-dog, half-tiger, half-toaster, half-sharks?

So is God like some kind of mad scientist or something?
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Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:19 pm

Muravyets wrote:
Rashuta wrote:
Scalietti wrote:You read the question, allow me to elaborate.

It is the thought of many that younger girls who dress scantily and provocatively are inviting harrassment and other unwanted contact upon them. In other words, if the girls didn't dress this way, they wouldn't find themself in that predicament. The same could also be said about their carriage, if them acted decently, modestly, no unwanted contact would be thrust upon them either.

Thoughts NSG? I reckon these theories have merit, but certainly aren't the answer.

Well they do want attention, but often not from those they want it from, so basically yes, they are throwing bait in the water

So now men are fish? Man, men just can't be made brainless enough to suit the needs of people who make excuses for sex crimes.

I went for sharks, sharks a coolers. Although, the Jets sure can dance.....

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:20 pm

Geniasis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Rashuta wrote:
Scalietti wrote:You read the question, allow me to elaborate.

It is the thought of many that younger girls who dress scantily and provocatively are inviting harrassment and other unwanted contact upon them. In other words, if the girls didn't dress this way, they wouldn't find themself in that predicament. The same could also be said about their carriage, if them acted decently, modestly, no unwanted contact would be thrust upon them either.

Thoughts NSG? I reckon these theories have merit, but certainly aren't the answer.

Well they do want attention, but often not from those they want it from, so basically yes, they are throwing bait in the water

So now men are sharks? This is getting ridiculous.


Half-dog, half-tiger, half-toaster, half-sharks?

So is God like some kind of mad scientist or something?

Might be some bearpig in there too.

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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:20 pm

Geniasis wrote:
Grainne Ni Malley wrote:That just makes no sense. Think about it. The meaty bacon/phallic symbol goes inside the toaster's orifice and then when the toaster is done, the bacon gets shot out. Although, sometimes the bacon cooks prematurely.

EDIT: Ooh, also bacon spits. Just saying.


Are you telling me that when I'm having sex with a woman, her vagina is slowly cooking my penis?

Thanks, like I didn't have enough issues.


Well, she's not freezing it unless you got a faulty vagina. Would it help you to think of it as "reheating"?
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Postby Geniasis » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:22 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:Well, she's not freezing it unless you got a faulty vagina. Would it help you to think of it as "reheating"?


Well it puts my penis on equal terms with last night's leftovers, but... yeah, I can work with that.
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