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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:28 am
by The Black Forrest
Great Nepal wrote:
Haiz wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
op wrote:LGBT extremists shamelessly cause a scene at a Target store.

Um... do LGBTs have shame in first place?

Good question.


What does it matter? Maybe if groups werent so shameful and disorganized, we wouldnt be in this mess. Its not flaunching to uphold what you believe in. Its democracy.

There is huge difference between free speech and advertising against a company just cos they support someone against you, in a private property. For example say I dont like your ideology (what ever it is), does free speech give me right to go to your workplace and shout to fire you from your workplace?


:blink: So what they did was the same as shouting fire?

You might want to rethink that....

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:28 am
by Soheran
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:29 am
by Vandengaarde
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

I was going to say that but thought I might offend some PC advocate.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:29 am
by Zephie
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am
by Greed and Death
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

I always thought target equaled metro-sexuality myself.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am
by Rolling squid
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.


That doesn't answer the question.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am
by Vandengaarde
The Black Forrest wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Haiz wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
op wrote:LGBT extremists shamelessly cause a scene at a Target store.

Um... do LGBTs have shame in first place?

Good question.


What does it matter? Maybe if groups werent so shameful and disorganized, we wouldnt be in this mess. Its not flaunching to uphold what you believe in. Its democracy.

There is huge difference between free speech and advertising against a company just cos they support someone against you, in a private property. For example say I dont like your ideology (what ever it is), does free speech give me right to go to your workplace and shout to fire you from your workplace?


:blink: So what they did was the same as shouting fire?

You might want to rethink that....

You read his post wrong. He said it was like going to your workplace and shouting at your boss to fire you.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am
by Soheran
Zephie wrote:Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.


What on Earth does that questionable notion have to do with the absurd suggestion that protesting Target is somehow a hateful act toward straight people as such?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am
by Skaladora
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

Probably this, as far as I'm concerned.

10 grands for saying shit? Completely unreasonable. I think here you can get a 100$ fine tops for profanity. And profanity has to be, you know, real profanity, like telling the cops that they should shove their nightsticks up their back alley in no uncertain words, with choice seasoning of religious terms (in Québec swearing is done under a religious theme, not a sexual theme).

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:31 am
by Sith Korriban
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Bullshit. The default state of the human condition isn't attracted to anything.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:31 am
by Vandengaarde
Soheran wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I've seen some people here saying that the republican candidate for governor of Minnesota would stop Minnesotan gays from marrying, but there aren't many gays here and a lot of the population in the capital and Minneapolis is homophobic. There are annual nazi rallies there and not really any gay pride things. We've had a Republican governor for 8 years now, which just shows people here are ambivalent towards gay rights.


At this point Minnesota is probably not ripe for same-sex marriage, but "there aren't many gays here"?

Where do you live?

That's rather meaningless anyways because of the anti-gay attitude here. And there aren't statistics on if the gays here actually want same-sex marriage equivalent to heterosexual marriages.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:31 am
by The Black Forrest
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.


And that means.....nothing.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:32 am
by Greed and Death
Skaladora wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

Probably this, as far as I'm concerned.

10 grands for saying shit? Completely unreasonable. I think here you can get a 100$ fine tops for profanity. And profanity has to be, you know, real profanity, like telling the cops that they should shove their nightsticks up their back alley in no uncertain words, with choice seasoning of religious terms (in Québec swearing is done under a religious theme, not a sexual theme).

Telling a police officer to shove his night stick up his back alley is not profanity here.
and as long as your calm it isn't even disorderly conduct.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:32 am
by Skaladora
Zephie wrote:Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Back that claim up or GTFO.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:32 am
by Zephie
Sith Korriban wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Bullshit. The default state of the human condition isn't attracted to anything.

Source?
Skaladora wrote:
Zephie wrote:Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Back that claim up or GTFO.

It's called biology.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:33 am
by Skaladora
greed and death wrote:
Skaladora wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

Probably this, as far as I'm concerned.

10 grands for saying shit? Completely unreasonable. I think here you can get a 100$ fine tops for profanity. And profanity has to be, you know, real profanity, like telling the cops that they should shove their nightsticks up their back alley in no uncertain words, with choice seasoning of religious terms (in Québec swearing is done under a religious theme, not a sexual theme).

Telling a police officer to shove his night stick up his back alley is not profanity here.
and as long as your calm it isn't even disorderly conduct.

...

You guys are weird.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:34 am
by The Black Forrest
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.


Their "legacy" still infects this land. Never understood why we admire the myth of those grave robbers.....

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:34 am
by Political Pilgrims
Wamitoria wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:"Target suports hate and discrimination"
...
"Target is full of shit"

I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals1. I mean, all we want to do is go on living our lives in peace without the oppressive LGBT hounding our every step!2

Anyway, sure, Target, a private company, has funded an anti-homosexual candidate. So if you're gay or lesbian, stop shopping there3. Why did they feel obligated to attack Target in this manner? I think I would personally find it less pigheaded if they had protested outside of the Target. Inside a private building, and with violent cutting remarks that do not logically support that didn't help support their position, is inappropriate4. The manager of that store would have been completely justified in removing them from the store5.

1. :rofl:
2. :rofl: :rofl:
3. I agree.
4. I didn't hear any any violent remarks.
5. Yes, he was justified.


4. I would describe angry profanity as verbal abuse and, therefore, violent. 'Shit' is considered profanity by most Americans, I'm certain, and saying that Target is "full of shit" is a profane and angry statement that does not make me support them and, in fact, shows everyone what they really are: angry, profane, violent, foolish, brash, etc..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:34 am
by Sith Korriban
Zephie wrote:
Sith Korriban wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Bullshit. The default state of the human condition isn't attracted to anything.

Source?

... *facepalm*

The default state of the human condition is what it reverts to if left alone with no interference of any kind. And corpses ain't very attracted to things, I've heard. ;)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:34 am
by Skaladora
Zephie wrote:It's called biology.

Please, be so kind as point out which part of biology backs your ridiculous claim. I can't seem to find it in the wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am
by Zephie
Sith Korriban wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Sith Korriban wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Bullshit. The default state of the human condition isn't attracted to anything.

Source?

... *facepalm*

The default state of the human condition is what it reverts to if left alone with no interference of any kind. And corpses ain't very attracted to things, I've heard. ;)

What in the world are you talking about?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am
by Wamitoria
Political Pilgrims wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:"Target suports hate and discrimination"
...
"Target is full of shit"

I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals1. I mean, all we want to do is go on living our lives in peace without the oppressive LGBT hounding our every step!2

Anyway, sure, Target, a private company, has funded an anti-homosexual candidate. So if you're gay or lesbian, stop shopping there3. Why did they feel obligated to attack Target in this manner? I think I would personally find it less pigheaded if they had protested outside of the Target. Inside a private building, and with violent cutting remarks that do not logically support that didn't help support their position, is inappropriate4. The manager of that store would have been completely justified in removing them from the store5.

1. :rofl:
2. :rofl: :rofl:
3. I agree.
4. I didn't hear any any violent remarks.
5. Yes, he was justified.


4. I would describe angry profanity as verbal abuse and, therefore, violent. 'Shit' is considered profanity by most Americans, I'm certain, and saying that Target is "full of shit" is a profane and angry statement that does not make me support them and, in fact, shows everyone what they really are: angry, profane, violent, foolish, brash, etc..

Full of shit =/= violent hate speech.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am
by Zephie
Skaladora wrote:
Zephie wrote:It's called biology.

Please, be so kind as point out which part of biology backs your ridiculous claim. I can't seem to find it in the wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology

Wikipedia isn't a replacement for going to school.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:36 am
by Wamitoria
Zephie wrote:
Skaladora wrote:
Zephie wrote:It's called biology.

Please, be so kind as point out which part of biology backs your ridiculous claim. I can't seem to find it in the wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology

Wikipedia isn't a replacement for going to school.

I don't remember talking about sexual orientations in Biology class...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:36 am
by Greed and Death
Skaladora wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Skaladora wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

Probably this, as far as I'm concerned.

10 grands for saying shit? Completely unreasonable. I think here you can get a 100$ fine tops for profanity. And profanity has to be, you know, real profanity, like telling the cops that they should shove their nightsticks up their back alley in no uncertain words, with choice seasoning of religious terms (in Québec swearing is done under a religious theme, not a sexual theme).

Telling a police officer to shove his night stick up his back alley is not profanity here.
and as long as your calm it isn't even disorderly conduct.

...

You guys are weird.

You can say whatever you want here just do not use profane words.