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Postby Zephie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:15 pm

Dododecapod wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


Of course you can. Lesbians can artificially inseminate, Gays can adopt.

Animals artificially inseminate in the wild?
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Postby Karsol » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:16 pm

Zephie wrote:
Karsol wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.

Actually I can, if I adopt or have a friend impregnate themselves and bear my child for a sum of money.

It still won't be both gay parent's child. Only one.

So you want to annul all step-parents marriages then?
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Postby Zephie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:16 pm

Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


Who says family has to follow marriage?

Then what is the purpose of marriage in the first place?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:16 pm

Bottle wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Loving v Virginia.

The reason you can't marry an 8 year old girl is because she isn't legally capable of consenting to a civil marriage contract. It has nothing to do with "love," and everything to do with the nature of the marriage contract.

In order to argue that a man should not be allowed to marry another man, you must provide evidence why a man cannot fulfill the requirements of that contract. Keep in mind that reproduction is not now, nor has it ever been, a requirement for marriage; infertile people, women past menopause, and people who choose never to have children are allowed to marry, so "MAKING BAY-BEEZ" is not relevant.

It's a well known fact that only a man/woman couple can have a real marriage. Source? Nope, you'd just tell me it's not credible. That means it's a true fact and you're trolling me by not accepting my biased source.
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Postby Liuzzo » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:16 pm

Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:It's called protesting. The only ones that have a problem with it are those that wished the LGBT would just go sit in a corner and try not to exist.

They aren't allowed to use the loudspeaker, that's for employees, so they are violating the property rights of the store, breaking the law isn't justified for protesting for the advancement of homosexual culture. If I was the manager I would have simply called the police. She was too nice.


You miss a lot. They used a megaphone and in the video there's a guy saying "the police have already been called." You'd think you'd pay more attention to your own link in your own OP right?
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Postby Jusela » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:16 pm

UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Jusela wrote:I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is my opinion.


Well, your opinion is homophobic, bigoted, irrelevant, and wrong.

Homophobic? I dont hate homosexuals, nor do i dislike them for being homosexual. I'm merely saying that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Bigoted? If I think marriage should be between a man and a woman, it means I'm bigoted? Heck, in that case i could call you bigoted as well. Evil bigot! You hold evil ignorant bigoted views! :eyebrow:
Irrelevant? If my views are irrelevant, then so are yours.
Wrong? What makes you think you're right? There is no such thing as right or wrong in this debate, there are only differing opinions.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:Because I, and my church, believe marriage is between any two consenting adults.

I didn't know you were a pastafarian.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:So get the fuck out of our way and let us marry same sex couples.

No.
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Postby Karsol » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:16 pm

Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


Who says family has to follow marriage?

Then what is the purpose of marriage in the first place?

It was usually usedb y Christian kingdoms as a political statement.
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Postby Dododecapod » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:17 pm

Zephie wrote:
Karsol wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.

Actually I can, if I adopt or have a friend impregnate themselves and bear my child for a sum of money.

It still won't be both gay parent's child. Only one.


Adopted chidren aren't really part of the family? Step-chidren aren't really the new paren't responsibility?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Zephie wrote:Animals artificially inseminate in the wild?

Are you trying to bring humans down to the level of animals?
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Zephie wrote:
Dododecapod wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


Of course you can. Lesbians can artificially inseminate, Gays can adopt.

Animals artificially inseminate in the wild?

Nor do they take Tylenol. But just to humour you (even though you won't read this), animals do adopt in the wild.
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Postby Karsol » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Jusela wrote:
UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Jusela wrote:I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is my opinion.


Well, your opinion is homophobic, bigoted, irrelevant, and wrong.

Homophobic? I dont hate homosexuals, nor do i dislike them for being homosexual. I'm merely saying that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Bigoted? If I think marriage should be between a man and a woman, it means I'm bigoted? Heck, in that case i could call you bigoted as well.
Irrelevant? If my views are irrelevant, then so are yours.
Wrong? What makes you think you're right? There is no such thing as right or wrong in this debate, there are only differing opinions.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:Because I, and my church, believe marriage is between any two consenting adults.

I didn't know you were a pastafarian.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:So get the fuck out of our way and let us marry same sex couples.

No.



Uhh, plenty of Christian churches and Non-christian religions allow same sex marriages?

Hinduism for example?
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Postby Icemany » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Jusela wrote:
UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Jusela wrote:I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is my opinion.


Well, your opinion is homophobic, bigoted, irrelevant, and wrong.

Homophobic? I dont hate homosexuals, nor do i dislike them for being homosexual. I'm merely saying that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Bigoted? If I think marriage should be between a man and a woman, it means I'm bigoted? Heck, in that case i could call you bigoted as well.
Irrelevant? If my views are irrelevant, then so are yours.
Wrong? What makes you think you're right? There is no such thing as right or wrong in this debate, there are only differing opinions.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:Because I, and my church, believe marriage is between any two consenting adults.

I didn't know you were a pastafarian.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:So get the fuck out of our way and let us marry same sex couples.

No.


You are homophobic.
And... death to the church!

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Postby Dododecapod » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Zephie wrote:
Dododecapod wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


Of course you can. Lesbians can artificially inseminate, Gays can adopt.

Animals artificially inseminate in the wild?


No, they tend to adopt.
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Postby Bottle » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


So?

Haven't you heard?

People who don't make babies are subhumans who deserve no consideration or rights.

That's right, parents of adopted children, I'm looking at you. Your families are worthless and we hate you. If you wanted to be considered a "real" family, then you shouldn't have taken in orphans, you scumbags.

Oh, and women past menopause? Fuck you if you want to get married. You're past your sell-by date and you serve no purpose. Screw off if you think you deserve to be loved or have a legally-recognized relationship like all the REAL women (you know, the fertile ones).

Elderly people? Yeah, fuck your marriages, you're not making babies any more. I don't give a shit if you were married for 45 years, you're not making babies NOW, so what is your union worth?

And all you people who opt to not make babies, you're just freaks and nobody likes you. You serve no purpose and are of no value, no matter what you do with your life, because humanity only prospers when people squeeze out fresh sons for the Fatherland.
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Postby Liuzzo » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:Harassing shoppers, handing out soliciting material, causing a disturbance, and filming people against their wishes: Why weren't these people arrested?


The filming people part is different in different states. It would only be a problem if they were blocking the entrances and exits creating a captive audience. The people were free to leave to so no problem. God I love the law. Also, the police were called and they found no cause.
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Postby Zephie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:19 pm

Karsol wrote:
Jusela wrote:
UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Jusela wrote:I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is my opinion.


Well, your opinion is homophobic, bigoted, irrelevant, and wrong.

Homophobic? I dont hate homosexuals, nor do i dislike them for being homosexual. I'm merely saying that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Bigoted? If I think marriage should be between a man and a woman, it means I'm bigoted? Heck, in that case i could call you bigoted as well.
Irrelevant? If my views are irrelevant, then so are yours.
Wrong? What makes you think you're right? There is no such thing as right or wrong in this debate, there are only differing opinions.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:Because I, and my church, believe marriage is between any two consenting adults.

I didn't know you were a pastafarian.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:So get the fuck out of our way and let us marry same sex couples.

No.



Uhh, plenty of Christian churches and Non-christian religions allow same sex marriages?

Hinduism for example?

And others don't. Religion is attacked in the gay rights debate, and now it's being used to promote it? People need to make up their minds. Some religions allow 5 year olds to be married off and multiple marriages, where would it stop?
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Postby Liuzzo » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:19 pm

Zephie wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:Harassing shoppers, handing out soliciting material, causing a disturbance, and filming people against their wishes: Why weren't these people arrested?

Because it's not politically correct to arrest gay people for trying to promote their culture.


Nope, because they did not force anyone to listen. If they had trapped them in a closed space they'd be up a creek. You're welcome.
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Postby Dododecapod » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:20 pm

Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


Who says family has to follow marriage?

Then what is the purpose of marriage in the first place?


Any of half a dozen reasons, ranging from affairs of state to "I got drunk."
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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:20 pm

Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


Who says family has to follow marriage?

Then what is the purpose of marriage in the first place?


A declaration of love and commitment, a political tool, a way of strengthening social bonds, a right of passage.
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Zephie's. They dropped off after I mentioned it last night, but look through the first couple of pages.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:21 pm

Zephie wrote:
Karsol wrote:
Jusela wrote:
UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Jusela wrote:I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is my opinion.


Well, your opinion is homophobic, bigoted, irrelevant, and wrong.

Homophobic? I dont hate homosexuals, nor do i dislike them for being homosexual. I'm merely saying that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Bigoted? If I think marriage should be between a man and a woman, it means I'm bigoted? Heck, in that case i could call you bigoted as well.
Irrelevant? If my views are irrelevant, then so are yours.
Wrong? What makes you think you're right? There is no such thing as right or wrong in this debate, there are only differing opinions.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:Because I, and my church, believe marriage is between any two consenting adults.

I didn't know you were a pastafarian.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:So get the fuck out of our way and let us marry same sex couples.

No.



Uhh, plenty of Christian churches and Non-christian religions allow same sex marriages?

Hinduism for example?

And others don't. Religion is attacked in the gay rights debate, and now it's being used to promote it? People need to make up their minds. Some religions allow 5 year olds to be married off and multiple marriages, where would it stop?

It wouldn't. It would go on forever until people are marrying rocks and trying to have babies with trees.
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Postby The Norwegian Blue » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:21 pm

Zephie wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Juristonia wrote:
Zephie wrote:They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.


No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.


Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.


1. Yes, you most certainly can, as the existence of gay couples with children demonstrates. The only way your statement could be true is if you consider adopted children and children produced via IVF, sperm donors, or surrogates not to "count" as being part of one's family. That attitude is so obviously idiotic and offensive that it speaks for itself.
2. Even if one accepted the idiotic idea that adopted kids, kids produced via sperm donation/egg donation/surrogacy/etc. don't "count," that argument would apply to elderly couples and infertile couples exactly as much as it does to gay couples. Shall we ban all post-menopausal women from marrying?
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Postby Zephie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:21 pm

Rolling squid wrote:A declaration of love and commitment, a political tool, a way of strengthening social bonds, a right of passage.

So surely you don't need the government involved to do that.
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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:22 pm

Zephie wrote:And others don't. Religion is attacked in the gay rights debate, and now it's being used to promote it? People need to make up their minds. Some religions allow 5 year olds to be married off and multiple marriages, where would it stop?



And what, exactly, is the difference between a religion that allows people to marry five year olds and one that segregates genders?
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Postby Dododecapod » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:22 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Karsol wrote:
Jusela wrote:
UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Jusela wrote:I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is my opinion.


Well, your opinion is homophobic, bigoted, irrelevant, and wrong.

Homophobic? I dont hate homosexuals, nor do i dislike them for being homosexual. I'm merely saying that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Bigoted? If I think marriage should be between a man and a woman, it means I'm bigoted? Heck, in that case i could call you bigoted as well.
Irrelevant? If my views are irrelevant, then so are yours.
Wrong? What makes you think you're right? There is no such thing as right or wrong in this debate, there are only differing opinions.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:Because I, and my church, believe marriage is between any two consenting adults.

I didn't know you were a pastafarian.
UNIverseVERSE wrote:So get the fuck out of our way and let us marry same sex couples.

No.



Uhh, plenty of Christian churches and Non-christian religions allow same sex marriages?

Hinduism for example?

And others don't. Religion is attacked in the gay rights debate, and now it's being used to promote it? People need to make up their minds. Some religions allow 5 year olds to be married off and multiple marriages, where would it stop?

It wouldn't. It would go on forever until people are marrying rocks and trying to have babies with trees.


Do you have a problem with that?
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