LGBT extremists shamelessly cause a scene at a Target store.

[Zephie]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

[Daistallia 2104]

It's too bad that Zephie is ignoring my posts.

One of many signs he's actually a troll....

I like the puppet wankery myself.

[Bottle]

No one is denying your rights. Homosexual people have the exact same rights as heterosexual people have.

Yeah, um, that's the argument that racists used to deny interracial marriage rights. "But black people have the same rights as white people...the right to marry somebody of their own race!!"

The Supreme Court threw out that crap before I was even born. I'm sure you're banking on everyone else being as ignorant of history as you are, but this isn't the forum to try to play that particular card.

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

Technically, gay people want EVERYONE to have the right to marry the consenting adult of their choice, regardless of gender. I've yet to see anybody propose a law that would let gay people marry somebody of the same sex but would bar straight people from doing so. Sounds perfectly equal to me.

[The Norwegian Blue]

Homosexuality is not normal and should not be treated as such.

Blond hair is not normal and should not be treated as such.

My statement is exactly as true and has exactly as much supporting evidence as yours.

[Dododecapod]

No one is denying your rights. Homosexual people have the exact same rights as heterosexual people have.

Yeah, um, that's the argument that racists used to deny interracial marriage rights. "But black people have the same rights as white people...the right to marry somebody of their own race!!"

The Supreme Court threw out that crap before I was even born. I'm sure you're banking on everyone else being as ignorant of history as you are, but this isn't the forum to try to play that particular card.

I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is my opinion.

And you're entitled to it. But will you act to prevent people who disagree from acting as THEY see fit?

[Zephie]

It's too bad that Zephie is ignoring my posts.

One of many signs he's actually a troll....

I like the puppet wankery myself.

Actually, I have him on ignore, so the only way I read that message was from you quoting it. I ignore people I feel are trolling me.

[Buffett and Colbert]

It's too bad that Zephie is ignoring my posts.

One of many signs he's actually a troll....

I like the puppet wankery myself.

Actually, I have him on ignore, so the only way I read that message was from you quoting it. I ignore people I feel are trolling me.

Mmhm.

[Buffett and Colbert]

It's too bad that Zephie is ignoring my posts.

One of many signs he's actually a troll....

I like the puppet wankery myself.

Puppet wankery? Whose puppet?

[Bottle]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Loving v Virginia.

The reason you can't marry an 8 year old girl is because she isn't legally capable of consenting to a civil marriage contract. It has nothing to do with "love," and everything to do with the nature of the marriage contract.

In order to argue that a man should not be allowed to marry another man, you must provide evidence why a man cannot fulfill the requirements of that contract. Keep in mind that reproduction is not now, nor has it ever been, a requirement for marriage; infertile people, women past menopause, and people who choose never to have children are allowed to marry, so "MAKING BAY-BEEZ" is not relevant.

[Karsol]

It's too bad that Zephie is ignoring my posts.

One of many signs he's actually a troll....

I like the puppet wankery myself.

Actually, I have him on ignore, so the only way I read that message was from you quoting it. I ignore people I feel are trolling me.

Pity I value freedom of speech enough to refuse to ignore anybody, no matter how immature or how much of a douchebag they are

[Bottle]

Homosexuality is not normal and should not be treated as such.

Blond hair is not normal and should not be treated as such.

My statement is exactly as true and has exactly as much supporting evidence as yours.

Geniuses aren't normal, therefore Stephen Hawking's marriage should be annulled.

Makes sense, amirite?!

[Rolling squid]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

[Dododecapod]

It's too bad that Zephie is ignoring my posts.

One of many signs he's actually a troll....

I like the puppet wankery myself.

Actually, I have him on ignore, so the only way I read that message was from you quoting it. I ignore people I feel are trolling me.

Pity I value freedom of speech enough to refuse to ignore anybody, no matter how immature or how much of a douchebag they are

I knew there was a reason I liked you, Karsol.

[Zephie]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.

[Juristonia]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Point to me where it says it doesn't. You're the one refusing a group of people something based on their sexual preference.
Your comparison is as flawed as it is ridiculous, but that's not exactly a surprise. There's a significant difference between an 8 year old and a consenting adult.
I already addressed that last part.

[Liuzzo]

I thought it was kind of funny, got this in an email from MoveOn.Org.

I don't think it is. It shows the hypocrisy. Do you remember the story about the kid at Walmart saying IIRC all black people must leave the store? That caused a shit storm and he was arrested, but when a "special group" does something like this, not much happens. They acted totally inappropriately and should have been arrested.

Saying all black people must leave the store is threatening and discrimination which breaks the law. Putting on an annoying little musical play against discrimination is part of the right to free assembly. They were protesting against target not discriminating against others. One if legal protected free speech and the other is not. This is a simplified legal analysis. You're welcome.

[Icemany]

Well it doesnt surprise me but it deeply offends me.
We dont cause any harm... why does anyone have the right to say we are not normal?

Because you aren't?

Why?

Homosexuality is a defect.

You obviously have a brain defect to think that

[Zephie]

It's too bad that Zephie is ignoring my posts.

One of many signs he's actually a troll....

I like the puppet wankery myself.

Actually, I have him on ignore, so the only way I read that message was from you quoting it. I ignore people I feel are trolling me.

Pity I value freedom of speech enough to refuse to ignore anybody, no matter how immature or how much of a douchebag they are

And I value the freedom to talk to whomever I want.

[Medrod (Ancient)]

Ah, the whole free speech thing. Kind of glad I don't live in the states as this little issue seems to get overly used as an excuse to inconvenience others.

[Karsol]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.

Actually I can, if I adopt or have a friend impregnate themselves and bear my child for a sum of money.

[Juristonia]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.

So?

[Dododecapod]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.

Of course you can. Lesbians can artificially inseminate, Gays can adopt.

[Zephie]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.

Actually I can, if I adopt or have a friend impregnate themselves and bear my child for a sum of money.

It still won't be both gay parent's child. Only one.

[The Norwegian Blue]

Homosexuality is not normal and should not be treated as such.

Blond hair is not normal and should not be treated as such.

My statement is exactly as true and has exactly as much supporting evidence as yours.

Geniuses aren't normal, therefore Stephen Hawking's marriage should be annulled.

Makes sense, amirite?!

Hey, it makes as much sense as any argument Zephie has made. (Sadly, it even makes more sense than many of them...)

[Rolling squid]

They do have the same rights though, since gays can marry the opposite sex, just like heterosexuals can. What gays want are new rights, not equal rights.

No, they do not.
A heterosexual can marry the person they love.
A homosexual can not.

Point me where it says you have the right to marry the person you love. If I loved a 8 year old girl, I can't legally marry her, but I wouldn't call that discrimination. And you don't need a marriage license in order to love somebody.

Fine, look at it this way; marriage as a social institution was limited by gender. You had to have one male and one female. The question is therefore, does it make sense to have a gender limit on marriage? The answer? No. So therefore, any two consenting adults can enter into the institution of marriage.

That's your opinion. You can't have children and start a family as a gay couple.

Who says family has to follow marriage?