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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:28 am

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op wrote:LGBT extremists shamelessly cause a scene at a Target store.

Um... do LGBTs have shame in first place?

Good question.


What does it matter? Maybe if groups werent so shameful and disorganized, we wouldnt be in this mess. Its not flaunching to uphold what you believe in. Its democracy.

There is huge difference between free speech and advertising against a company just cos they support someone against you, in a private property. For example say I dont like your ideology (what ever it is), does free speech give me right to go to your workplace and shout to fire you from your workplace?


:blink: So what they did was the same as shouting fire?

You might want to rethink that....
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Postby Soheran » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:28 am

Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

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Postby Vandengaarde » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:29 am

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Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

I was going to say that but thought I might offend some PC advocate.
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Postby Zephie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:29 am

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Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am

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Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

I always thought target equaled metro-sexuality myself.
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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am

Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.


That doesn't answer the question.
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Postby Vandengaarde » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Haiz wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
op wrote:LGBT extremists shamelessly cause a scene at a Target store.

Um... do LGBTs have shame in first place?

Good question.


What does it matter? Maybe if groups werent so shameful and disorganized, we wouldnt be in this mess. Its not flaunching to uphold what you believe in. Its democracy.

There is huge difference between free speech and advertising against a company just cos they support someone against you, in a private property. For example say I dont like your ideology (what ever it is), does free speech give me right to go to your workplace and shout to fire you from your workplace?


:blink: So what they did was the same as shouting fire?

You might want to rethink that....

You read his post wrong. He said it was like going to your workplace and shouting at your boss to fire you.
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Postby Soheran » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am

Zephie wrote:Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.


What on Earth does that questionable notion have to do with the absurd suggestion that protesting Target is somehow a hateful act toward straight people as such?

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Postby Skaladora » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:30 am

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

Probably this, as far as I'm concerned.

10 grands for saying shit? Completely unreasonable. I think here you can get a 100$ fine tops for profanity. And profanity has to be, you know, real profanity, like telling the cops that they should shove their nightsticks up their back alley in no uncertain words, with choice seasoning of religious terms (in Québec swearing is done under a religious theme, not a sexual theme).

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Postby Sith Korriban » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:31 am

Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Bullshit. The default state of the human condition isn't attracted to anything.
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Postby Vandengaarde » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:31 am

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Vandengaarde wrote:I've seen some people here saying that the republican candidate for governor of Minnesota would stop Minnesotan gays from marrying, but there aren't many gays here and a lot of the population in the capital and Minneapolis is homophobic. There are annual nazi rallies there and not really any gay pride things. We've had a Republican governor for 8 years now, which just shows people here are ambivalent towards gay rights.


At this point Minnesota is probably not ripe for same-sex marriage, but "there aren't many gays here"?

Where do you live?

That's rather meaningless anyways because of the anti-gay attitude here. And there aren't statistics on if the gays here actually want same-sex marriage equivalent to heterosexual marriages.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:31 am

Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.


And that means.....nothing.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:32 am

Skaladora wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

Probably this, as far as I'm concerned.

10 grands for saying shit? Completely unreasonable. I think here you can get a 100$ fine tops for profanity. And profanity has to be, you know, real profanity, like telling the cops that they should shove their nightsticks up their back alley in no uncertain words, with choice seasoning of religious terms (in Québec swearing is done under a religious theme, not a sexual theme).

Telling a police officer to shove his night stick up his back alley is not profanity here.
and as long as your calm it isn't even disorderly conduct.
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Postby Skaladora » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:32 am

Zephie wrote:Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Back that claim up or GTFO.

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Postby Zephie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:32 am

Sith Korriban wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Bullshit. The default state of the human condition isn't attracted to anything.

Source?
Skaladora wrote:
Zephie wrote:Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Back that claim up or GTFO.

It's called biology.
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Postby Skaladora » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:33 am

greed and death wrote:
Skaladora wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

Probably this, as far as I'm concerned.

10 grands for saying shit? Completely unreasonable. I think here you can get a 100$ fine tops for profanity. And profanity has to be, you know, real profanity, like telling the cops that they should shove their nightsticks up their back alley in no uncertain words, with choice seasoning of religious terms (in Québec swearing is done under a religious theme, not a sexual theme).

Telling a police officer to shove his night stick up his back alley is not profanity here.
and as long as your calm it isn't even disorderly conduct.

...

You guys are weird.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:34 am

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.


Their "legacy" still infects this land. Never understood why we admire the myth of those grave robbers.....
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Postby Political Pilgrims » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:34 am

Wamitoria wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:"Target suports hate and discrimination"
...
"Target is full of shit"

I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals1. I mean, all we want to do is go on living our lives in peace without the oppressive LGBT hounding our every step!2

Anyway, sure, Target, a private company, has funded an anti-homosexual candidate. So if you're gay or lesbian, stop shopping there3. Why did they feel obligated to attack Target in this manner? I think I would personally find it less pigheaded if they had protested outside of the Target. Inside a private building, and with violent cutting remarks that do not logically support that didn't help support their position, is inappropriate4. The manager of that store would have been completely justified in removing them from the store5.

1. :rofl:
2. :rofl: :rofl:
3. I agree.
4. I didn't hear any any violent remarks.
5. Yes, he was justified.


4. I would describe angry profanity as verbal abuse and, therefore, violent. 'Shit' is considered profanity by most Americans, I'm certain, and saying that Target is "full of shit" is a profane and angry statement that does not make me support them and, in fact, shows everyone what they really are: angry, profane, violent, foolish, brash, etc..
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Postby Sith Korriban » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:34 am

Zephie wrote:
Sith Korriban wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Bullshit. The default state of the human condition isn't attracted to anything.

Source?

... *facepalm*

The default state of the human condition is what it reverts to if left alone with no interference of any kind. And corpses ain't very attracted to things, I've heard. ;)
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Postby Skaladora » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:34 am

Zephie wrote:It's called biology.

Please, be so kind as point out which part of biology backs your ridiculous claim. I can't seem to find it in the wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology

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Postby Zephie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am

Sith Korriban wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Sith Korriban wrote:
Zephie wrote:
Soheran wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals.


Wait, what?

Does Target = heterosexuality now?

Heterosexuality is the default state of the human condition.

Bullshit. The default state of the human condition isn't attracted to anything.

Source?

... *facepalm*

The default state of the human condition is what it reverts to if left alone with no interference of any kind. And corpses ain't very attracted to things, I've heard. ;)

What in the world are you talking about?
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Postby Wamitoria » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am

Political Pilgrims wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:
Political Pilgrims wrote:"Target suports hate and discrimination"
...
"Target is full of shit"

I think that all these homosexuals should stop spreading their message of hate against us heterosexuals1. I mean, all we want to do is go on living our lives in peace without the oppressive LGBT hounding our every step!2

Anyway, sure, Target, a private company, has funded an anti-homosexual candidate. So if you're gay or lesbian, stop shopping there3. Why did they feel obligated to attack Target in this manner? I think I would personally find it less pigheaded if they had protested outside of the Target. Inside a private building, and with violent cutting remarks that do not logically support that didn't help support their position, is inappropriate4. The manager of that store would have been completely justified in removing them from the store5.

1. :rofl:
2. :rofl: :rofl:
3. I agree.
4. I didn't hear any any violent remarks.
5. Yes, he was justified.


4. I would describe angry profanity as verbal abuse and, therefore, violent. 'Shit' is considered profanity by most Americans, I'm certain, and saying that Target is "full of shit" is a profane and angry statement that does not make me support them and, in fact, shows everyone what they really are: angry, profane, violent, foolish, brash, etc..

Full of shit =/= violent hate speech.
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Postby Zephie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am

Skaladora wrote:
Zephie wrote:It's called biology.

Please, be so kind as point out which part of biology backs your ridiculous claim. I can't seem to find it in the wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology

Wikipedia isn't a replacement for going to school.
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Postby Wamitoria » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:36 am

Zephie wrote:
Skaladora wrote:
Zephie wrote:It's called biology.

Please, be so kind as point out which part of biology backs your ridiculous claim. I can't seem to find it in the wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology

Wikipedia isn't a replacement for going to school.

I don't remember talking about sexual orientations in Biology class...
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:36 am

Skaladora wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Skaladora wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
Vandengaarde wrote:I realize it isn't profanity in a lot of places outside the U.S., but American English is quite odd in that way, where different words are on different levels of being rude than in other languages.


More that America is just extremely and irrationally puritanical.

Probably this, as far as I'm concerned.

10 grands for saying shit? Completely unreasonable. I think here you can get a 100$ fine tops for profanity. And profanity has to be, you know, real profanity, like telling the cops that they should shove their nightsticks up their back alley in no uncertain words, with choice seasoning of religious terms (in Québec swearing is done under a religious theme, not a sexual theme).

Telling a police officer to shove his night stick up his back alley is not profanity here.
and as long as your calm it isn't even disorderly conduct.

...

You guys are weird.

You can say whatever you want here just do not use profane words.
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