The human body is overrated.

[Ryadn]

If you are going to be like that then your kind of wrong. This will probably sound mean but i do not intend to attack you with this comment at all. For the start of humanity it has been dog eat dog survival of the fittest thing. Well if it wasnt for human technology people with diabetes would have probably died and people with other disease would have to. The only humans who would have survived would be the ones without disease and things like. So only the greatest humans would survive

Diabetes isn't exactly new. People had it long before there were treatments for it, and yet, they obviously DIDN'T all die off, so that theory is... not sound.

Our physical bodies are shit compared to other animals. We are one of the least properly survival-equipped mammals in existence... Think about how fucking fragile we are. BUT our brains make up for all that now don't they?

Our brains aren't part of our bodies?

I also am aware of survival of the fittest which is meant to keep the genepool strong. Like how we werent mean to live that long we were meant to livel ong enough to grow up, mate care for our younge and then die but due ot our brains being more advanced we evolved and have done research on things to save people who would have died without it but if you ask me I dont like it I think theres a reason their body caught it and that was becuase they just werent the fittest. I also wouldnt have lasted though since I had menangitice at the age of 4 and the flue at age of 10. I probably wouldnt have survived the menangitic or the flu. But Ive never been sick after that so my immune system has obvoiusly became strong becuase of those 2 incidents.

So you don't like the evolution of our brains which allowed us to find treatments for things that might have killed us before because it interferes with evolution? *squint*

And that's some dodgy logic in the last sentence.

[Sibirsky]

We are often told that "the human body is a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?

As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.

Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...

Diabetes sucks. I'm sorry.

The human body is pretty amazing if you think about it though. All those various systems. Also, some female bodies are are indeed quite wonderful.

Sibirsky, you dog.

[The Black Plains]

We are often told that "the human body is a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?

As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.

Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...

Well, it could also be your own fault. Don't be ready to blame something or someone else without full analysis.

This... could be considered trolling... not saying it IS. Just saying some people could consider it trolling. Especially since... I'm like 90% positive you have to inherit type 1. That being said: HAHA!

[Ryadn]

Give us some time. With something as complex as the human body, you have a few options. You can take the route of the Nazis and perform vast amounts of lethal experiments to find out medical functions and such, which did advance our understanding of the human body a thousand fold when we discovered their research notes and other assorted data, or you can wait for non-invasive technology like medical scans to advance to the point where you can examine every part of the living human body without causing them damage, and gather data that way. We're going with option 2, and it takes time. I would say, given a century, nearly every disease we currently have to day will be wiped out and there will be mandatory vaccinations to them for children as we have with tetanus now.

There will be new diseases. But, those new diseases will be treated, and cured faster.

Exactly. The rate of technological innovation is accelerating, while the time it takes for a unique disease to develop or evolve in general takes the same amount of time. I think eventually we will get to the point where bio-robotic "doctors" supplement our natural immune systems and heal us from within, and it's not as far off as some may think. We're within a few years of having biological computers that indicate physiological anomalies by coloring your urine, if the Israeli scientist manages to secure funding to begin serious work on it.

Won't due shit to prevent inheritable diseases, though.

EDIT: Due? Oh, brain.

[Sungai Pusat]

We are often told that "the human body is a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?

As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.

Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...

Well, it could also be your own fault. Don't be ready to blame something or someone else without full analysis.

This... could be considered trolling... not saying it IS. Just saying some people could consider it trolling. Especially since... I'm like 90% positive you have to inherit type 1. That being said: HAHA!

Yeah, I think that might be trolling. But I'm gonna ignore, unless you do it again.

[The Black Plains]

Our physical bodies are shit compared to other animals. We are one of the least properly survival-equipped mammals in existence... Think about how fucking fragile we are. BUT our brains make up for all that now don't they?

Our brains aren't part of our bodies?

I was more speaking of the physical capacity of our bodies. I think you knew that. Don't be a melon farmer.

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

Give us some time. With something as complex as the human body, you have a few options. You can take the route of the Nazis and perform vast amounts of lethal experiments to find out medical functions and such, which did advance our understanding of the human body a thousand fold when we discovered their research notes and other assorted data, or you can wait for non-invasive technology like medical scans to advance to the point where you can examine every part of the living human body without causing them damage, and gather data that way. We're going with option 2, and it takes time. I would say, given a century, nearly every disease we currently have to day will be wiped out and there will be mandatory vaccinations to them for children as we have with tetanus now.

There will be new diseases. But, those new diseases will be treated, and cured faster.

Exactly. The rate of technological innovation is accelerating, while the time it takes for a unique disease to develop or evolve in general takes the same amount of time. I think eventually we will get to the point where bio-robotic "doctors" supplement our natural immune systems and heal us from within, and it's not as far off as some may think. We're within a few years of having biological computers that indicate physiological anomalies by coloring your urine, if the Israeli scientist manages to secure funding to begin serious work on it.

Won't due shit to prevent inheritable diseases, though.

If this technology advances to the point of actual action by said biological computers, inheritable diseases will simply be dealt with like any other infection, and the problems will be rectified. This kind of technology is still a few decades out from being made real, assuming a concerted effort is made, and a few more decades from being affordable to give to everyone.

[Sibirsky]

Give us some time. With something as complex as the human body, you have a few options. You can take the route of the Nazis and perform vast amounts of lethal experiments to find out medical functions and such, which did advance our understanding of the human body a thousand fold when we discovered their research notes and other assorted data, or you can wait for non-invasive technology like medical scans to advance to the point where you can examine every part of the living human body without causing them damage, and gather data that way. We're going with option 2, and it takes time. I would say, given a century, nearly every disease we currently have to day will be wiped out and there will be mandatory vaccinations to them for children as we have with tetanus now.

There will be new diseases. But, those new diseases will be treated, and cured faster.

Exactly. The rate of technological innovation is accelerating, while the time it takes for a unique disease to develop or evolve in general takes the same amount of time. I think eventually we will get to the point where bio-robotic "doctors" supplement our natural immune systems and heal us from within, and it's not as far off as some may think. We're within a few years of having biological computers that indicate physiological anomalies by coloring your urine, if the Israeli scientist manages to secure funding to begin serious work on it.

Fascinating.

Also, we will have chips in our clothes that measure our vitals. So, for example, my grandson trips and falls, and hits his head, his shirt will be able to detect that and will call 911 for him, transmit his location and vitals to them, and provide a list of allergies.

[Ryadn]

Our physical bodies are shit compared to other animals. We are one of the least properly survival-equipped mammals in existence... Think about how fucking fragile we are. BUT our brains make up for all that now don't they?

Our brains aren't part of our bodies?

I was more speaking of the physical capacity of our bodies. I think you knew that. Don't be a melon farmer.

I don't see any rationale for separating the two. My "physical body" armed with a hatchet that I knapped because my brain is creative, flexible and problem-solving is stronger than many animals.

[Nazistisches Reich]

If you are going to be like that then your kind of wrong. This will probably sound mean but i do not intend to attack you with this comment at all. For the start of humanity it has been dog eat dog survival of the fittest thing. Well if it wasnt for human technology people with diabetes would have probably died and people with other disease would have to. The only humans who would have survived would be the ones without disease and things like. So only the greatest humans would survive

Diabetes isn't exactly new. People had it long before there were treatments for it, and yet, they obviously DIDN'T all die off, so that theory is... not sound.

Our physical bodies are shit compared to other animals. We are one of the least properly survival-equipped mammals in existence... Think about how fucking fragile we are. BUT our brains make up for all that now don't they?

Our brains aren't part of our bodies?

I also am aware of survival of the fittest which is meant to keep the genepool strong. Like how we werent mean to live that long we were meant to livel ong enough to grow up, mate care for our younge and then die but due ot our brains being more advanced we evolved and have done research on things to save people who would have died without it but if you ask me I dont like it I think theres a reason their body caught it and that was becuase they just werent the fittest. I also wouldnt have lasted though since I had menangitice at the age of 4 and the flue at age of 10. I probably wouldnt have survived the menangitic or the flu. But Ive never been sick after that so my immune system has obvoiusly became strong becuase of those 2 incidents.

So you don't like the evolution of our brains which allowed us to find treatments for things that might have killed us before because it interferes with evolution? *squint*

And that's some dodgy logic in the last sentence.

No I blieve strongly in survival of the fittest and who ever gets a disease and dies then obvoiusly they werent good enough for the genepool. And also how is the lodgic dodgy in my last sentences?

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Actually I think a lot of the time the human body is underrated.

[Knowlandia]

Gods still working out the kinks.

[Nazi Flower Power]

I also am aware of survival of the fittest which is meant to keep the genepool strong. Like how we werent mean to live that long we were meant to livel ong enough to grow up, mate care for our younge and then die but due ot our brains being more advanced we evolved and have done research on things to save people who would have died without it but if you ask me I dont like it I think theres a reason their body caught it and that was becuase they just werent the fittest. I also wouldnt have lasted though since I had menangitice at the age of 4 and the flue at age of 10. I probably wouldnt have survived the menangitic or the flu. But Ive never been sick after that so my immune system has obvoiusly became strong becuase of those 2 incidents.

I wouldn't be here either without modern medicine since I was born almost a month premature and it didn't exactly go smoothly. I'm doing OK these days, though.

[New Arcturas (Ancient)]

This is pretty much saying that sex is overrated, really.

[Ryadn]

Our brains aren't part of our bodies?

I also am aware of survival of the fittest which is meant to keep the genepool strong. Like how we werent mean to live that long we were meant to livel ong enough to grow up, mate care for our younge and then die but due ot our brains being more advanced we evolved and have done research on things to save people who would have died without it but if you ask me I dont like it I think theres a reason their body caught it and that was becuase they just werent the fittest. I also wouldnt have lasted though since I had menangitice at the age of 4 and the flue at age of 10. I probably wouldnt have survived the menangitic or the flu. But Ive never been sick after that so my immune system has obvoiusly became strong becuase of those 2 incidents.

So you don't like the evolution of our brains which allowed us to find treatments for things that might have killed us before because it interferes with evolution? *squint*

And that's some dodgy logic in the last sentence.

No I blieve strongly in survival of the fittest and who ever gets a disease and dies then obvoiusly they werent good enough for the genepool. And also how is the lodgic dodgy in my last sentences?

Darwin forgive them, they know not what they say.

The evolution of our brains IS what makes us the fittest---it's what's made humanity so resilient. Why the hell would we squander the ability to develop life-saving procedures and medicines? Someone gets an infection and we say, "Nah, no antibiotics for you! It'll weaken the gene pool!" and that's supposed to somehow make us stronger? If you want to be a cave man and live for about 30 years, you go right ahead, but I intend to make use of my brain as well as my limbs.

[Nazistisches Reich]

Gods still working out the kinks.

Oh yes the imaginary man is trying to fix his mistakes

[Yootopia]

This is pretty much saying that sex is overrated, really.

Aye well Hayteria is a massive virgin. Fact.

[Nazi Flower Power]

So you don't like the evolution of our brains which allowed us to find treatments for things that might have killed us before because it interferes with evolution? *squint*

And that's some dodgy logic in the last sentence.

We Nazis are not known for our sound logic.

[Jagalonia]

The reason some people revere the human body as so magnificent, is because we have no way of duplicating it, Yes we can clone animals, but those clones would be useless when put in an actual society.

What I personaly find facinating is the materials we're made of, we're not made of anything that we can create, or mould, and even more amazingly, we're only 1 or 2 ingredients away from being walking bombs.

Honestly I could go on for hours about this, but I'd rather not spend all night making a forum post lol.

What do you mean 1 or 2 ingrediants away form being walking bombs?

Humans have a very large amount of elements within them. Right now you have Hydrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, Iron, Calcium, Nitrogen, Phosphorous, Sodium and potassium, to list a few.

ok I know this from my knowledge on physical fitness but what do these elements have to do with an bomb I mean hydorgen, nitrogen and Oxygen and Carbon I can see but sodium potassium, calcium, Iron phosphorus i dont see as exlosion elements.

Sodium, potassium, and phosphorus are volitile ingredients. When mixed with other ingredients, you can make a big boom, I forget what those ingredients were, Chemistry class was a long time ago lol.

[Sociobiology]

Our physical bodies are shit compared to other animals. We are one of the least properly survival-equipped mammals in existence... Think about how fucking fragile we are. BUT our brains make up for all that now don't they?

Well dont forget evolution is why we are weaker since the more advancements we made and the less physical work we did took its toll and made us what we are today but early man was much more stronger and tougher because of how hard things were back then. I mean if took an average man from now and had him arm wrestle an early homosapien he would lose...horribly.

yes and no, the vastly better nutrition and sanitation we have to day means half our muscle mass isn't taken up by worms cysts, and the average human today is several inches higher which gives a definite advantage. low tech peoples today aren't on average stronger than those from developed countries, diet really does constrain muscle growth.
I'll admit this may change soon with the recent advent of computers, which allows an unprecedented amount of immobility in a productive individual. And individual countries may vary since a few select countries treat walking as a horrible inconvenience "cough US cough" instead of something only the infirmed would complain about.

[Natapoc]

Lets all just get brain transplants to shark bodies.

No, some dumb primate would come along and start cutting off our fins for soup. http://www.sharkwater.com/education.htm

[Nazistisches Reich]

Our physical bodies are shit compared to other animals. We are one of the least properly survival-equipped mammals in existence... Think about how fucking fragile we are. BUT our brains make up for all that now don't they?

Well dont forget evolution is why we are weaker since the more advancements we made and the less physical work we did took its toll and made us what we are today but early man was much more stronger and tougher because of how hard things were back then. I mean if took an average man from now and had him arm wrestle an early homosapien he would lose...horribly.

yes and no, the vastly better nutrition and sanitation we have to day means half our muscle mass isn't taken up by worms cysts, and the average human today is several inches higher which gives a definite advantage. low tech peoples today aren't on average stronger than those from developed countries, diet really does constrain muscle growth.
I'll admit this may change soon with the recent advent of computers, which allows an unprecedented amount of immobility in a productive individual. And individual countries may vary since a few select countries treat walking as a horrible inconvenience "cough US cough" instead of something only the infirmed would complain about.

Please explain what you mean by muscle mass not taken up by worms cysts? And also yes diet is important like protein intake which is the builing block for muscle.

[Sociobiology]

Our physical bodies are shit compared to other animals. We are one of the least properly survival-equipped mammals in existence... Think about how fucking fragile we are. BUT our brains make up for all that now don't they?

Our brains aren't part of our bodies?

I was more speaking of the physical capacity of our bodies. I think you knew that. Don't be a melon farmer.

humans to preform quite well again other animals physically, we're certainly not the fasted but we are very efficient walker we can keep it up for much longer than most animals, we are superb jumpers, in our weight class we can jump higher than almost everything. Our hearing has the widest range of any animal tested, we may not hear the highest or lowest pitched sounds possible, but we can hear more of total sound frequency spectrum. we're also pretty good climbers, in our weight class only other great apes compare. One thats unique to us, we are the only animal that can throw in overhand pitch, which lets us throw things accurately and fast. primitive hominids kept lions away with stone tossing long before our brains got big.
all that plus the best physical (IE existent) brain on the market.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Lets all just get brain transplants to shark bodies.

No, some dumb primate would come along and start cutting off our fins for soup. http://www.sharkwater.com/education.htm

I didn't know monkeys made soup.

[Numerika]

The human body is weak and frail compared to other animals because it doesn't need to be strong. The brain took care of survival.