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Postby Hayteria » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:41 pm

We're often told that "the human body's a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?

As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.

Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...

EDIT: It seems a lot of people were responding as if I meant in comparison to other species; I did not. I was thinking more along the lines of in comparison to technology...
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:42 pm

It's still pretty effing cool, though.
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Postby Ashmoria » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:44 pm

we do pretty well for being such a crappy design.
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:44 pm

Give us some time. With something as complex as the human body, you have a few options. You can take the route of the Nazis and perform vast amounts of lethal experiments to find out medical functions and such, which did advance our understanding of the human body a thousand fold when we discovered their research notes and other assorted data, or you can wait for non-invasive technology like medical scans to advance to the point where you can examine every part of the living human body without causing them damage, and gather data that way. We're going with option 2, and it takes time. I would say, given a century, nearly every disease we currently have to day will be wiped out and there will be mandatory vaccinations to them for children as we have with tetanus now.
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Postby Seperate Vermont » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:44 pm

All living beings have complex systems, so all organic processes could be considered interesting things, which to me they are.

The body is not trustworthy of course, when it begins to fight itself, and I do concur that Humankind have an inflated ego about ourselves. Just enough to accelerate conditions. And sometimes our attempts to perfect or intervene in our state of misunderstanding only lead us to causing imperfections and new problems, and without the knowledge we cannot properly understand the implications of tackling said new problems.

We need time and more research into the complexities of life. Then we could bring about a cure for what humans have, with their inflated ego, skewed the fuck up.
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Postby Auremena » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:46 pm

It can be great, but often breaks down.
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Postby Selung » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:46 pm

Your body might be overrated but I haven't had any major complications with mine.

Shuttles often malfunction but that doesn't make them any less of technological wonders.

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Postby Weltmachtistan » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:46 pm

Yeah, when's the new model come out?

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Postby Seculartopia » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:49 pm

The human body is still complex and wondrous even when it malfunctions- the Immune system has ingenious, if not correct, methods for responding to its environment. We are just beginning to tap into the wonders of how the conscious,semiconscious and involuntary nervous system work and affect our bodily processes. And for the things the body does wrong, as we understand more, those things can be helped while understanding the affects.
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Postby Avenio » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:50 pm

Hayteria wrote:We are often told that "the human body is a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?


Well, if the body wasn't complex, we'd be little more than pond scum, so take your pick.

Hayteria wrote:As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.


Considering the trillions and trillions of cells in your body that do function in your body, compared to the relatively tiny amount of beta cells in your pancreas that don't, I'd say its fairly trustworthy.

Hayteria wrote:Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...


Again, only one percent of the population suffers from this variety of diabetes, which, though it is still a large number, shows the ability of the human body plain and simple; over ninety-nine percent of humans don't have the disease.

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Postby Hassett » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:52 pm

Give it a few more hundred thousand years, it'll figure all the problems out itself.
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:54 pm

Human body is the most complex "machine" ever built. And as for medical part -
1. Everything breaks down from time to time.
2. Blame it to Anti-Steam cell research campaigners.
3. As someone here said, unless we go by Nazi way - it will take time.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:02 pm

Meh, if we studied other animals I'd imagine you'd come out with a similar percentage having the same types of malfunctions. My body works just fine, and thats all that really matters.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:02 pm

Great Nepal wrote:3. As someone here said, unless we go by Nazi way - it will take time.



That's why Nazis are awesome. :)

@ the OP: The human body may have a few flaws, but overall it's still pretty cool.

You worry too much about your diabetes. It's good if you remember to take your insulin, but it's bad if the diabetes takes over your mind.

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Postby Niur » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:08 pm

Lets all just get brain transplants to shark bodies.
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Postby The blessed Chris » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:09 pm

Hayteria wrote:We are often told that "the human body is a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?

As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.

Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...


So because you're a retard, the human body as a biological entity is iver-rated?

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Postby Kotlas » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:10 pm

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:Give us some time. With something as complex as the human body, you have a few options. You can take the route of the Nazis and perform vast amounts of lethal experiments to find out medical functions and such, which did advance our understanding of the human body a thousand fold when we discovered their research notes and other assorted data, or you can wait for non-invasive technology like medical scans to advance to the point where you can examine every part of the living human body without causing them damage, and gather data that way. We're going with option 2, and it takes time. I would say, given a century, nearly every disease we currently have to day will be wiped out and there will be mandatory vaccinations to them for children as we have with tetanus now.

But then wouldn't the Nazi way ultimately save more lives? I think we should take that route.
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Postby Euroslavia » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:13 pm

The blessed Chris wrote:
Hayteria wrote:We are often told that "the human body is a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?

As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.

Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...


So because you're a retard, the human body as a biological entity is iver-rated?


I'm curious how you managed to feel that calling the original poster a 'retard' is justified. Not only did you skip the discussion at hand, you insult him. Consider this an unofficial warning to knock it off.
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Postby Hayteria » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:17 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:You worry too much about your diabetes. It's good if you remember to take your insulin

Uh, no, it is not that simple. Blood sugar levels can be unpredictable even if I take it. How much do you know about this disease, exactly?

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Postby Albrante » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:21 pm

I'd say that as to the complexity it is really not much better than most other animals in nature. What makes it remarkable is the strain that it can withstand and the versatility of it. Here we are with no claws, or sharp teeth. no fur or armor plating. Were not the fastest of strongest animal but we run the bloody planet. Thats whats awesome in my opinion.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:21 pm

Hayteria wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:You worry too much about your diabetes. It's good if you remember to take your insulin

Uh, no, it is not that simple. Blood sugar levels can be unpredictable even if I take it. How much do you know about this disease, exactly?


Not a lot.

I just think it's sad to see you so preoccupied with it. I understand what you've posted about not having kids so you don't pass it on and screw up their life, but you shouldn't let it screw up YOUR life.

Sometimes your threads can be pretty gloomy, though they do remind me a bit of the way I was when I was younger.

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Postby Jagalonia » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:21 pm

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:I would say, given a century, nearly every disease we currently have to day will be wiped out and there will be mandatory vaccinations to them for children as we have with tetanus now.


And new diseases will take their places.
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Postby Northern Bavungria » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:22 pm

Hayteria wrote:We are often told that "the human body is a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?

As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.

Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...

If you are going to be like that then your kind of wrong. This will probably sound mean but i do not intend to attack you with this comment at all. For the start of humanity it has been dog eat dog survival of the fittest thing. Well if it wasnt for human technology people with diabetes would have probably died and people with other disease would have to. The only humans who would have survived would be the ones without disease and things like. So only the greatest humans would survive
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Postby Nazistisches Reich » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:24 pm

Hayteria wrote:We are often told that "the human body is a wonderful thing" because it is so complicated or for whatever reason, but what good is complexity when it malfunctions so easily?

As I have mentioned in other threads, I have type 1 diabetes, wherein the immune system attacks the insulin producing cells, for reasons that are no fault of my own for that matter. My body would have destroyed itself if not for human technology figuring out what went wrong and how to replace the insulin itself. For all its complexity and intricacy, the human body is not very trustworthy.

Of course, this example applies just to myself and others who have this disease, which is about 1 percent of people. But I doubt it is the only example of this. So many things are severely wrong with human biology that it is over-rated, to say the very least...


Well you see besides that the human body is magnificant. I mean how they body functions and what designed all of it is just amazing like how white blood cells attack viruses and how the bodys immune system adapts to viruses by fighting them. And how the human body adapts like how if you work wiht your hands alot your skin become rough to withstand the labor. And how when you dont eat much your body goes into starvation mode and starts to live off the fat on the body. Oh and isnt diabetes caused from obesity and also High Fructose corn syrup can cause diabetes so you might have caused it....
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Postby Gracealona » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:24 pm

Considering how many of us humans there are on Earth it's not surprising that some bodies "malfunction". If you compare the total population of the planet to the number of "malfunctioning" bodies it is a very low ratio.
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