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Jusela
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Postby Jusela » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:01 pm

Genivar wrote:
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Yeah, plenty of weed-smoking communists there, talking all the time about bringing down the oppressive capitalist system. Anyway, time to pick your sentence apart.
Genivar wrote:China politely asks for its money, (for whatever reason, its there money) the United States does not have the money,
It is called loans. And the US is already paying its loans and debts to the PRC. And if the PRC goes nuts and declares war, then guess what? The US wont pay its debt back.
Genivar wrote:China demands to be compensated with land, the United States refuses,
So basically the PRC says "Give us Hawaii and Alaska?". It wouldn't work, and it wouldn't be seen as endearing for the international community either. This is the 21th century, buddy, you dont ask for compensation in form of land.
Genivar wrote:China now one of the most powerful economies in the world gathers other countries who don't like the United States,
Oh yeah, like who? North Korea? Iran? Libya? What are they gonna do? Swim over the Pacific and the Atlantic to reach America? Also, dont even mention Russia, there's no way they'd ally themself with the PRC and go to war with US, considering how the Chinese are attempting to colonise the Russian Far East at the moment.
Genivar wrote: America calls on it's allies for aid but because of decades of imperialism and arrogance on americas part many refuse,
Imperialism, arrogance? If you want to see how imperialism looked like, look at the former USSR, or look at the former European empires. That is imperialism. Most of the times where the US have gone to war, its reason were to defend a country from tyranny (South Korea, South Vietnam etc). The USA is one of the worlds most free nations too. In the US, you can express your political views without fear getting jailed. You cant do that in the PRC, where they jail you for saying the words "human rights".
Genivar wrote:thus America stands alone against dozens of countries,
If you mean Iran and North Korea by dozens, then yeah.
Genivar wrote:America is crushed, many celebrate.

America invokes Article 5 of the NATO charter, dragging most of Europe and Canada into the war.
Genivar wrote:THE END

With the Comchi economy in ruins because of the lack of exports, yeah it is the end.

Silly communist, you have no grasp on reality do you? But no, you're living in that bubble of yours, filled with quotes from communist mass-murderers and a irrational hate for America.
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Postby Jusela » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:02 pm

Qwcasd wrote:
Undead stuff wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:
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Wamitoria wrote:It won't.

why

Globalized economic dependency.

That makes sense, but what about iran? I see it nuking israel in the near future.That would certainly start something.

Israel would nuke Iran... not the other way around.

Last time i checked, it was Iran who denied the Holocaust and the right of Israel to exist.

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Postby The West Prophets » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:36 pm

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In my opinion, this is how it would play out: Iran, which has already made threats to this extent, would launch one of its completed nuclear missiles at Israel, attempting to strike a mortal blow. The missile is shot down, although casualties from fallout occur, and the Middle East erupts in fighting. Islamic forces attack Israel on a scale not seen since the Yom Kippur war. The DEFCON level is raised to 3.

Meanwhile or immediately afterward, North Korea attacks across the DMZ with chemical and possible nuclear weapons, and many satellites are disabled by the EMPs. (Fact: North and South Korea are still technically at war, and the situation isn't improving any.) The South Korean and American forces take heavy casualties; America declares war on North Korea and sends more troops to the peninsula. The DEFCON level is raised to 2--highest level in history since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Rocket attacks are authorized to disable key North Korean infrastructure. Unfortunately, a poorly aimed rocket hits a Chinese supply truck delivering food to North Korea to relieve the latest famine. China, outraged at the incident, immediately deploys troops to support North Korea. American and Chinese troops engage in hostilities. Peace advocates and non-involved nations beg the two superpowers to stand down and withdraw.

After that, who knows? Maybe a terrorist attack, possibly even a nuclear one (see The Sum of All Fears) is mistaken for an attack by one of the two countries. Maybe a nuclear launch from a third country (North Korea, Iran, Pakistan/India, whoever gains control of the Israeli nukes if the country is overrun) prompts the two to start launching. A false alarm with the early warning stations (see Stanislav Petrov) could have the same effect. With two incredibly powerful nations on edge and no hotline between the capitols (unlike our situation with the U.S.S.R.), a feather could knock us over the edge. Oh, and plans for a missile-defense system for the United States were vetoed, so we're just as naked as they are. Oh, and China is one of five countries (us included) who can hit any spot on Earth with a missile. Sweet dreams!
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Postby Tiberica » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:20 am

In all likelihood, if there is a WW3, I think it would be a civil war on a global scale. As it currently stands, 1% of the population controls 99% of the world's wealth, and with the banks and big businesses, it's not too difficult for them to suck up more of the money that is left to the rest of us. Eventually people will rebel against the rich and powerful. Current gun laws in many countries would actually allow for such a scenario to occur as well. Also, would the soldiers side with the government, or the people? I'm inclined to say they'd side with the people, because they're in the same boat as we are. Most of the soldiers are also part of that 99% of the population controlling 1% of the wealth. Given that, it would probably be a quick war, but it would be on a massive scale nonetheless.
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Postby Alpainia » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:29 am

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Jurgenty wrote:I have no idea how WW3 will be fought, but WW4 will be fought with bows and arrows ........


Sticks and stones is what Einstein said, not bows and arrows. :palm:

My thoughts exactly.

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Postby Zephie » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:55 am

Smaller countries being used as a battlefield for global powers, like the cold war.
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Postby Icemany » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:37 am

I am fairly convinced there will be WW3 in my lifetime.
And it will between the West + China and India against Islam. The beginnings of the World War have already happend with the War On Terror. Western civilization and Islam cant live together in the World... one must defeat the other.
And I believe the West will be victorious. The right always wins in the end.

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Postby Umoganna » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:11 am

Jalkil wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
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Canadai wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Canadai wrote:Germany will do something stupid again.


Would have to be after the current generation of germans dies because most germans are very peaceful.

Well, looking historically, Germany starts 100% of all world wars.

Actually, looking historically, Austria started WW1 forcing Germany into it due to their pact terms. Germany only starts 50% of World Wars.


Hitler was Austrian. Austria starts 100%?


Well... That can be argued.
But if we are to be slightly more wide-eyed we would see that it was actually the Brits and Frenchies fault. The Versaille treaty was bullshit. Germany paid back with dead people, lots of them. Actually dead people are propably more valueable than Deutsche Mark were when it was at his worst... Thanks to the brits and frenchies.


I'm sorry, but this... this is just wrong. Britain did not agree with the harsh reparations demanded by the French. The US still signed the document, they are still as responsible as the other nations.
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Postby Jusela » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:45 am

Icemany wrote:I am fairly convinced there will be WW3 in my lifetime.
And it will between the West + China and India against Islam. The beginnings of the World War have already happend with the War On Terror. Western civilization and Islam cant live together in the World... one must defeat the other.
And I believe the West will be victorious. The right always wins in the end.


You're one heck of a nutjob.

Except for a few fringe groups, most muslims are people just like you and me. They dont want war or anything like that. All muslims I know are nice people. Islam isn't some "KILL INFIDELS" religion...

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Postby Iander » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:47 am

"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

- Albert Einstein
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Postby Jusela » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:47 am

Tiberica wrote:In all likelihood, if there is a WW3, I think it would be a civil war on a global scale. As it currently stands, 1% of the population controls 99% of the world's wealth, and with the banks and big businesses, it's not too difficult for them to suck up more of the money that is left to the rest of us. Eventually people will rebel against the rich and powerful. Current gun laws in many countries would actually allow for such a scenario to occur as well. Also, would the soldiers side with the government, or the people? I'm inclined to say they'd side with the people, because they're in the same boat as we are. Most of the soldiers are also part of that 99% of the population controlling 1% of the wealth. Given that, it would probably be a quick war, but it would be on a massive scale nonetheless.


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Postby SD_Film Artists » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:53 am

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And fucks up our country so much that the people become willing to accept a Canadian invasion.


Burning the White House again. XD
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Postby Volnotov » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:53 am

Undead stuff wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:
Undead stuff wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:It won't.

why

Globalized economic dependency.

That makes sense, but what about iran? I see it nuking israel in the near future.That would certainly start something.


Yea sure, Iran nuking Israel.


And why would Iran want to do that?

I am seriously getting sick of this "Iran will nuke Israel!!! They won't, period. Unless ofcourse Israel will attack Iran in wich case I do believe Iran will nuke Israel if they could.
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Postby Volnotov » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:55 am

Tiberica wrote:In all likelihood, if there is a WW3, I think it would be a civil war on a global scale. As it currently stands, 1% of the population controls 99% of the world's wealth, and with the banks and big businesses, it's not too difficult for them to suck up more of the money that is left to the rest of us. Eventually people will rebel against the rich and powerful. Current gun laws in many countries would actually allow for such a scenario to occur as well. Also, would the soldiers side with the government, or the people? I'm inclined to say they'd side with the people, because they're in the same boat as we are. Most of the soldiers are also part of that 99% of the population controlling 1% of the wealth. Given that, it would probably be a quick war, but it would be on a massive scale nonetheless.


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Postby Zephie » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:35 am

Volnotov wrote:
Tiberica wrote:In all likelihood, if there is a WW3, I think it would be a civil war on a global scale. As it currently stands, 1% of the population controls 99% of the world's wealth, and with the banks and big businesses, it's not too difficult for them to suck up more of the money that is left to the rest of us. Eventually people will rebel against the rich and powerful. Current gun laws in many countries would actually allow for such a scenario to occur as well. Also, would the soldiers side with the government, or the people? I'm inclined to say they'd side with the people, because they're in the same boat as we are. Most of the soldiers are also part of that 99% of the population controlling 1% of the wealth. Given that, it would probably be a quick war, but it would be on a massive scale nonetheless.


Source?

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That's right, this is NSG. Meaning, if he did give you a source, you would most likely just call it "not credible."
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:51 am

Seperates wrote:
Canadai wrote:
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Canadai wrote:Germany will do something stupid again.


Would have to be after the current generation of germans dies because most germans are very peaceful.

Well, looking historically, Germany starts 100% of all world wars.

Actually, looking historically, Austria started WW1 forcing Germany into it due to their pact terms. Germany only starts 50% of World Wars.

Actually, a sandwich started World War 1. More seriously, it was a terrorist organization, backed by a high-ranking Serbian official (without the knowledge, I believe, of the Serbian government).
Iander wrote:"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

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A truly brilliant quote there, one of my favourites.

Also, Iran does not seem to be planning to nuke Israel anytime soon, North Korea can't get the neccesary blessing from the People's Republic of China to invade the South, and the Balkans don't currently seem eager to start Armaggedon. Some of the theories people are throwing up are truly fanciful. However, I will admit that if Sino-American relations are damaged for some reason, there is a chance that China will let it's attack dog, the DPRK, invade South Korea, thus triggering a war involving the US and South Korea against China and the North, with the Japanese and the Russians dragged in quite possibly; and eventually, all the western powers, too. And the current fear of Iran in the Arab world does open the possibility of a conflict in the Middle East. Certainly, it'd change the global scales of power a great deal if the European Union became a truly federal entity; though I can't see us European 'imperialists' starting yet another world war.
Jusela wrote: Imperialism, arrogance? If you want to see how imperialism looked like, look at the former USSR, or look at the former European empires. That is imperialism. Most of the times where the US have gone to war, its reason were to defend a country from tyranny (South Korea, South Vietnam etc). The USA is one of the worlds most free nations too. In the US, you can express your political views without fear getting jailed. You cant do that in the PRC, where they jail you for saying the words "human rights".

Saying that the US isn't/wasn't imperialist is bullshit.
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Want proof? Ask any native American. Or look up the Spanish-American War. Of course, you're quite right to say that the PRC wouldn't randomly round up the US' enemies and demand they hand over Hawaii and Alaska because of some arguement over loans. At least, I hope not- even the CCP isn't that mad.
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Postby Rolamec » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:27 am

Ze Jews! Blame ze Jews!
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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:31 am

Rolamec wrote:Ze Jews! Blame ze Jews!

We're blaming them before hand now?
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Postby Rolamec » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:32 am

Wamitoria wrote:
Rolamec wrote:Ze Jews! Blame ze Jews!

We're blaming them before hand now?


When in doubt, just blame the Jews. Its always there fault, regardless of what the facts or reason or logic may tell you.
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Postby Icemany » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:01 am

Jusela wrote:
Icemany wrote:I am fairly convinced there will be WW3 in my lifetime.
And it will between the West + China and India against Islam. The beginnings of the World War have already happend with the War On Terror. Western civilization and Islam cant live together in the World... one must defeat the other.
And I believe the West will be victorious. The right always wins in the end.


You're one heck of a nutjob.

Except for a few fringe groups, most muslims are people just like you and me. They dont want war or anything like that. All muslims I know are nice people. Islam isn't some "KILL INFIDELS" religion...


Well you are blind. And blind people like you are more dangerous than the enemy themselves. >:(

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:59 am

To be honest I have to admit that in practice a hypothesised World War III may not involve nuclear weapons because a silo exchange will render much of earth uninhabitable for years.

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Postby Belfras » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:05 am

maybe a canadian will become president of the US and try to wipe out the Republicans?

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lol, they're not strong enough.

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Postby Keeial » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:07 am

Well we almost had WW3 with the Soviets during the Cuban missle crisis and the Yom Kipur war. 1 month ago the Russians flew a couple of bombers to close to Canadian airspace so the Canadians had to scramble their jets. But I dont think we will go to war with Russia instead I think it will be the North Koreans. They have already threatened us with a nuclear threat and they ve threatened us with a naval attack.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:48 am

It probably won't happen.

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