Question for smokers

[Mortshnefran]

So in the U.S. at least, i'd be curious as to what other countries are doing, there is a concerted effort to create a tax based prohibition of tobacco. so my questions are how much do you pay for cigs now, and what would the cost have to be before you resorted to buying illegal smokes from the seedy guy on the corner?

I pay just over 4 dollars a pack and i would buy illegal ones now if i could find someone selling them.

[Tarantum]

Depending on the brand, they're about $5-6 here in Michigan. I suppose if they were a bit more expensive I'd stop, but I should do that anyway for my health.

[Mortshnefran]

i may have quit on my own for health reasons, probably not though. but now if i quit it feels like the smoke nazi's have won and that i just can't abide.

[Yootopia]

So my questions are how much do you pay for cigs now

About $10 for 20 straights. Or $5ish for a 12.5g (err half-ounce?) bag of tobacco, out of which I can make 30 better cigs, although Rizla+ and filter supplies are necessary for that (at all of err a dollar for plenty of both together).

[Greed and Death]

So in the U.S. at least, i'd be curious as to what other countries are doing, there is a concerted effort to create a tax based prohibition of tobacco. so my questions are how much do you pay for cigs now, and what would the cost have to be before you resorted to buying illegal smokes from the seedy guy on the corner?

I pay just over 4 dollars a pack and i would buy illegal ones now if i could find someone selling them.

Do you live near a Boarder?
Also try Indian smoke shops if you live near a reservation, I think they are exempt from the tax.
Natural spirits seem to be the cheapest.
http://www.nascigs.com/
I think they do phone orders from reservations.

[Parthenon]

Move to North Carolina We practically give cigarettes away.

[Tarantum]

Move to North Carolina We practically give cigarettes away.

Oh man, is this ever true! I spent a month at Fort Bragg and I couldn't go to a store without there being a buy one get one free deal on my usual brands. I bought 12 packs for about $21 the day before I left, and I wish I had bought a lot more.

[Reijvajik]

Wow, smokes in the US are cheap. I don't smoke tobacco (or any other substance for that matter ), but in Australia it's upwards of $10-15 a pack. That's because we have a massive tax (like 50% or something) on them.

[Greed and Death]

I can get you just under 4 dollars here.
http://www.cigarettesforless.com/us-cig ... camel.html

Seems Europeans order from the US to avoid their taxes.

Asia has cheap cigs. Korea is about 1 dollar a pack.

Also military bases have less taxed cigarettes make friends with a solider.

[Saint Clair Island]

I see prices of anywhere between $4 and $7 -- generally closer to $4 -- although I don't buy them myself so I never pay too much attention. (Resident of New York State)

[Pope Joan]

Government gets on its high horse and pretends to be all moral by calling it a ban when it is nothing more than gouging taxes from addicts.

The government knows these smokers can't quit, and it doesn't want them to; they are a cash cow.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Government gets on its high horse and pretends to be all moral by calling it a ban when it is nothing more than gouging taxes from addicts.

The government knows these smokers can't quit, and it doesn't want them to; they are a cash cow.

So if you really want to stick it to the government, quit.

[Yootopia]

Government gets on its high horse and pretends to be all moral by calling it a ban when it is nothing more than gouging taxes from addicts.

The government knows these smokers can't quit, and it doesn't want them to; they are a cash cow.

So if you really want to stick it to the government, quit.

Am a loyal subject myself

[Pope Joan]

Government gets on its high horse and pretends to be all moral by calling it a ban when it is nothing more than gouging taxes from addicts.

The government knows these smokers can't quit, and it doesn't want them to; they are a cash cow.

So if you really want to stick it to the government, quit.

Am a loyal subject myself

Be more loyal yet and get them to legalize pot.

They could put enormous taxes on it and then pretend the taxes were for "moral" reasons.

[Greed and Death]

Government gets on its high horse and pretends to be all moral by calling it a ban when it is nothing more than gouging taxes from addicts.

The government knows these smokers can't quit, and it doesn't want them to; they are a cash cow.

So if you really want to stick it to the government, quit.

Or smuggle in masses of cigs. then sell them at pennies on the dollar. Not only to you avoid paying you also help other people avoid paying to the government.

[Aelosia]

In Venezuela, a 20 package is worth 4-5$

I was astonished to see how expensive cigarettes were in Japan and New Zealand.

EDIT: In a tax free zone, like a port, you can find in Venezuela 20 packages for like 2.5 $

[Pope Joan]

Government gets on its high horse and pretends to be all moral by calling it a ban when it is nothing more than gouging taxes from addicts.

The government knows these smokers can't quit, and it doesn't want them to; they are a cash cow.

So if you really want to stick it to the government, quit.

Or smuggle in masses of cigs. then sell them at pennies on the dollar. Not only to you avoid paying you also help other people avoid paying to the government.

I have seen people shot in PA for doing this, and that was only for avoiding the STATE tax!

State police pulled over a semi coming down a back road from Maryland; the driver and crew were uncooperative and sent for their pockets; they got shot.

They were armed.

It was on tv.

[Greed and Death]

So if you really want to stick it to the government, quit.

Or smuggle in masses of cigs. then sell them at pennies on the dollar. Not only to you avoid paying you also help other people avoid paying to the government.

I have seen people shot in PA for doing this, and that was only for avoiding the STATE tax!

State police pulled over a semi coming down a back road from Maryland; the driver and crew were uncooperative and sent for their pockets; they got shot.

They were armed.

It was on tv.

So basically what your saying is we are heading for Prohibition just with cigarettes. The mafia smuggling it in and growing illegal tobacco.

[Concurria]

The closer you are to Jesus, the better you can smell the fumes from Hell.

In other words: Georgia — $4 for your run of the mill Camels or Marlboros.

[Maurepas]

Theyre just under $4 here, $3.50 or so...

I dont smoke cigarettes anymore, when you get laid off, you stop things like that...

[Maurepas]

So basically what your saying is we are heading for Prohibition just with cigarettes. The mafia smuggling it in and growing illegal tobacco.

It wouldnt succeed down here, even the Public Smoking ban was so ineffective it was repealed, every establishment willfully disobeyed it...


I believe thats what happened the first time with alcohol, actually, I hear it was one of the reasons New Orleans is called the "Big Easy",

[Mortshnefran]

i used to smoke rollies and they were 2.25 a pouch, then the fed tax kicked in and they sell for 4.25 that almost a 100% tax, including the other taxes well over 100%. i'm just waiting for someone in mexico to get the idea to import cheap cigs from china or korea then start smuggling them over the border.

[Greed and Death]

So basically what your saying is we are heading for Prohibition just with cigarettes. The mafia smuggling it in and growing illegal tobacco.

It wouldnt succeed down here, even the Public Smoking ban was so ineffective it was repealed, every establishment willfully disobeyed it...


I believe thats what happened the first time with alcohol, actually, I hear it was one of the reasons New Orleans is called the "Big Easy",

If enough people resist the tobacco tax by growing their own and selling it.
And forming violent gangs to resist when the government tries to crack down. This tobacco tax nonsense would be over with.
We Americans need to be more like the 1920's Mob.

[Poliwanacraca]

i may have quit on my own for health reasons, probably not though. but now if i quit it feels like the smoke nazi's have won and that i just can't abide.

That seems like a pretty silly level of cutting off your nose to spite your face. "I gave myself lung cancer! Take THAT, government!"

[New Manvir]

I don't smoke, but I used to work at a gas station. They're about $8 - $10 I believe in Ontario, I think.