"Ground Zero" mosque approved, Obama supports

[Weathergeeks]

[quote="Juristonia";p="2991234 ]
I'm not even going to get in to the ridiculous poor Israeli argument with you again because it'd be like talking to a very dumb wall.[/quote]

NOoooo the reason why you didnt is because intellectually you arent smart enough

[The Black Forrest]

[quote="Juristonia";p="2991234 ]
I'm not even going to get in to the ridiculous poor Israeli argument with you again because it'd be like talking to a very dumb wall.[/quote]

NOoooo the reason why you didnt is because intellectually you arent smart enough[/quote]

You two might want to tone it down a little......

[Weathergeeks]

No, stating the truth is not an ad hominem attack... care to tell us what ad hominem means? Obviously your dictionary isn't quite working on Libertarian, so I'd assume something like ad hominem isn't quite there either.

Dude another post called this guy a "dumb wall"....

that IS an ad hominem attack

[Enadail]

No, stating the truth is not an ad hominem attack... care to tell us what ad hominem means? Obviously your dictionary isn't quite working on Libertarian, so I'd assume something like ad hominem isn't quite there either.

Dude another post called this guy a "dumb wall"....

that IS an ad hominem attack

Sure, but not every claim of ad hominem was an attack... most were disagreements where there was no counter, so... ad hominem!

[Megady]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

[Canada Provinces]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Ok so this is a racism forum now......

I would not wag that finger "those people" and "that Religion"

Mine is nothing more then sarcasm for a troll......

Well sorry for exercising my Rights of FREE SPEECH.

[Weathergeeks]

wow, ad hominem much? this isnt about me.. if you dont like my opinions thats fine... but you dont have to attack me and twist my words... have a good day.

You have to understand the Mods really have a strong bias against anyone who doesnt have their view point..

[Canada Provinces]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

That flag....

[Weathergeeks]

New York city blocks being what they are, Ground Zero wouldn't even be visible from the proposed location. .

PROOF?

[The Black Forrest]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

Hmmm a low quality troll. Must have been made in china.....

[Megady]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

That flag....

Look at yours, now thats something to laugh about

[Megady]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

Hmmm a low quality troll. Must have been made in china.....

Nope Im made in the good ole' USA!;)

[Weathergeeks]

The fact that this is a controversial topic is a sad commentary on anti-Muslim bigotry in the US.

Please provide PROOF how this is anti muslim Bigotry by ASKING or PROTESTING that they move this mosque....


Ironic isnt it folks? supposedly Liberals love to act up and protest... But of anyone else does it
it can ONLY be bigotry.

[Weathergeeks]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz.

It's two entire blocks away.

so what?

[Canada Provinces]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

Hmmm a low quality troll. Must have been made in china.....

Nope Im made in the good ole' USA!;)

Since when is the Flag of America from the 1800's? I didn't know we where still fighting the Civil War? So did you see *puts on country accent* That stink'n Abe Lincoln said we shouldn't have our slaves for the cotton field and our baccer...

*Back to the Present Day*
Sorry you where stuck back in time

[Copiosa Scotia]

New York city blocks being what they are, Ground Zero wouldn't even be visible from the proposed location. .

PROOF?

As you know, or ought to know, it's very difficult to provide proof of a negative. However, to a person who was even vaguely familiar with Manhattan generally and who knew the community center's proposed location specifically, I think it would be extremely surprising if Ruthless Slaughter's claim were not true.

But that wasn't enough for me. So I did a little experiment that you can easily duplicate yourself. I played around a bit in Google Street View, finding the community center's location (which in Google Maps is a Burlington Coat Factory building at 51 Park Place) and trying to find an angle from which I could see any part of Ground Zero. I probably spent twenty minutes on this, and I didn't manage to catch even a glimpse of Ground Zero.

Again, you can try this yourself. I doubt your results will be any different, but if they are, I'd be interested to see a screenshot.

[Weathergeeks]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

this argument is liberal bullshit.
No one I know has made this argument.
but you keep making up false assertions then keep knocking them down
we are all real impressed by that

[The Black Forrest]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

Hmmm a low quality troll. Must have been made in china.....

Nope Im made in the good ole' USA!;)

Hmmm? South Carolina?

[Copiosa Scotia]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

Hmmm a low quality troll. Must have been made in china.....

Oh, now you hate the Chinese too?

[The Black Forrest]

The fact that this is a controversial topic is a sad commentary on anti-Muslim bigotry in the US.

Please provide PROOF how this is anti muslim Bigotry by ASKING or PROTESTING that they move this mosque....


Ironic isnt it folks? supposedly Liberals love to act up and protest... But of anyone else does it
it can ONLY be bigotry.

So there is no prejudice in this "protest?"

Please explain.

[The Black Forrest]

Obama is a muslim! idc what anyone says!

And did you know he was black?

Haha really funny loser, come up with that all by yourself?

Hmmm a low quality troll. Must have been made in china.....

Oh, now you hate the Chinese too?

You can't call me a racist. I hate everybody equally!

[Canada Provinces]

The fact that this is a controversial topic is a sad commentary on anti-Muslim bigotry in the US.

Please provide PROOF how this is anti muslim Bigotry by ASKING or PROTESTING that they move this mosque....


Ironic isnt it folks? supposedly Liberals love to act up and protest... But of anyone else does it
it can ONLY be bigotry.

So there is no prejudice in this "protest?"

Please explain.

I wouldn't call it a protest. We don't have people going around with picket fence signs demonstrating their beliefs in words on a sign.

[Montanaa]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

this argument is liberal bullshit.
No one I know has made this argument.
but you keep making up false assertions then keep knocking them down
we are all real impressed by that

Liberal? How in the hell...?
And I am impressed with the way he has debated this. You on the other hand have not made a viable argument against the construction of the building.

[The Black Forrest]

The fact that this is a controversial topic is a sad commentary on anti-Muslim bigotry in the US.

Please provide PROOF how this is anti muslim Bigotry by ASKING or PROTESTING that they move this mosque....


Ironic isnt it folks? supposedly Liberals love to act up and protest... But of anyone else does it
it can ONLY be bigotry.

So there is no prejudice in this "protest?"

Please explain.

I wouldn't call it a protest. We don't have people going around with picket fence signs demonstrating their beliefs in words on a sign.

Now now. Let him answer. I am curious to what he will say.....

[Weathergeeks]

Wow... I didn't know that my conservative colleges in this country are so apt at saying that they support the constitution and then turning around to say that a religious group can't build on private property.

This is why I dislike the right-wing parties of the US. Because their professionial... *flam word*... who are as devious as they are cunning.

But I do know that Liberal whackos LOVE to take a argument NO one has made
focus on THAT and
ignore the real argument .

again I keep asking for one of so called intellectuals here in this thread to show me a conservative who has made the argument
that a private owner of a piece of property should NOT be able to do with it as they see fit.