"Ground Zero" mosque approved, Obama supports

[Dass Alte Reich]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

[North Suran]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz.

It's two entire blocks away.

[Wamitoria]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

The Community Center is located two blocks from Ground Zero.
Edit: Ninja'd

[Enadail]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

[Free Peoples 2]

I still don't understand why people are arguing about this. If they have the right permits to build a building on private property, they have the right to build a mosque near Ground Zero. Even if you think building it near Ground Zero is a foolish decision, they still have the right to and nobody has the right to deny them permission. If someone wanted to build liquor stores next door to this mosque, that's their right to as well because we're a free country. If you truly love America and the freedom we stand for, you would support whatever people want to do with their private property, as long as it's legal.

[Dass Alte Reich]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz.

It's two entire blocks away.

Does it matter....it's the same Idea. Either way I have expressed that I support this by the fact that these Muslims are entitled to their rights as well.

[Juristonia]

This just in: Muslims are like Nazis.

Godwin never gets old.

[The Lone Alliance]

I still don't understand why people are arguing about this. If they have the right permits to build a building on private property, they have the right to build a mosque near Ground Zero. Even if you think building it near Ground Zero is a foolish decision, they still have the right to and nobody has the right to deny them permission. If someone wanted to build liquor stores next door to this mosque, that's their right to as well because we're a free country. If you truly love America and the freedom we stand for, you would support whatever people want to do with their private property, as long as it's legal.

It's because so many people are still terrified of the "Global Islamo-fascist world domination plan" they truly DO believe that these Muslims were "In on it".

I'm surprised they haven't accused this Mosque of directing the planes into the buildings or putting bombs in. I'm surprised Truthers haven't jumped on that.

[Dass Alte Reich]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

Not all Fascists are Nazi's...infact Fascism seems to be one of the most misused words today. Not all Muslims are radical extremists, I know that. These two things can be compared. But this is besides the point, you can't try and prove me wrong when I agree with you, these muslims are entitled to that Mosque.

[Chrobalta]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

Not all Fascists are Nazi's...infact Fascism seems to be one of the most misused words today. Not all Muslims are radical extremists, I know that. These two things can be compared. But this is besides the point, you can't try and prove me wrong when I agree with you, these muslims are entitled to that Mosque.

But all Fascists are authoritarians.

[Dass Alte Reich]

This just in: Muslims are like Nazis.

Godwin never gets old.

Glove is to hand as paint is to wall......is a hand like a wall...? It's called an analogy.

[Dass Alte Reich]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

Not all Fascists are Nazi's...infact Fascism seems to be one of the most misused words today. Not all Muslims are radical extremists, I know that. These two things can be compared. But this is besides the point, you can't try and prove me wrong when I agree with you, these muslims are entitled to that Mosque.

But all Fascists are authoritarians.

As are all communists by law of reality...."some are just more equal then others"

[Enadail]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

Not all Fascists are Nazi's...infact Fascism seems to be one of the most misused words today. Not all Muslims are radical extremists, I know that. These two things can be compared. But this is besides the point, you can't try and prove me wrong when I agree with you, these muslims are entitled to that Mosque.

Well, I wasn't aruging your agreement... I was aruging your comparing a Muslim community center near Ground Zero to a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. We know the Nazis (of the time) did many horrible things are Auschwitz. A nazi anything there would be an insult to they memory (though donno about legality, as I don't know anything about german law). A Muslim center near Ground Zero is nothing like that, as these Muslims did nothing bad at ground zero, nor did most Muslims. And where did I use the word Fascist? How did we get to fascists?

This just in: Muslims are like Nazis.

Godwin never gets old.

Glove is to hand as paint is to wall......is a hand like a wall...? It's called an analogy.

Uh... doesn't mean its not Godwin.

[Chrobalta]

As are all communists by law of reality...."some are just more equal then others"

That is debatable and irrelevant to the topic at hand. IE: Red herring.

[Juristonia]

This just in: Muslims are like Nazis.

Godwin never gets old.

Glove is to hand as paint is to wall......is a hand like a wall...? It's called an analogy.

I know what an analogy is.
I just prefer ones that actually make sense.

It would've made sense if you had compared Germans to Muslims, considering not every German was a Nazi.
Just like not every Muslim is a fundamentalist terrorist.

But hey, then it wouldn't be as effective of a scare tactic.

[Dass Alte Reich]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

Not all Fascists are Nazi's...infact Fascism seems to be one of the most misused words today. Not all Muslims are radical extremists, I know that. These two things can be compared. But this is besides the point, you can't try and prove me wrong when I agree with you, these muslims are entitled to that Mosque.

Well, I wasn't aruging your agreement... I was aruging your comparing a Muslim community center near Ground Zero to a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. We know the Nazis (of the time) did many horrible things are Auschwitz. A nazi anything there would be an insult to they memory (though donno about legality, as I don't know anything about german law). A Muslim center near Ground Zero is nothing like that, as these Muslims did nothing bad at ground zero, nor did most Muslims. And where did I use the word Fascist? How did we get to fascists?

This just in: Muslims are like Nazis.

Godwin never gets old.

Glove is to hand as paint is to wall......is a hand like a wall...? It's called an analogy.

Uh... doesn't mean its not Godwin.

Nazism is a form of Fascism...the most extreme form, as Muslims Extremists are the Extreme form of Muslims.....are all Muslims and Fascists bad...no, but are extremists...yes. I used Nazi as an example, as people are obviously tender to the events that happened at ground zero, and the the typical stereotyping is that all Fascist's or Germans are Nazi's. Neither of which is true. Sure we all know not every Muslim or Fascist is bad, but placing building that reminds people of that history, near the place the event happened is offensive to the broad mass. However, like agreed on, here in the United States that is there right. Despite the fact it's like a slap in the face to those who care.

[Dass Alte Reich]

As are all communists by law of reality...."some are just more equal then others"

That is debatable and irrelevant to the topic at hand. IE: Red herring.

It was a response to a irrelevant comment saying all Fascist's are authoritarian....I'm only participating in what someone else had already started.

[Union Soviet Socialist]

Wow... I didn't know that my conservative colleges in this country are so apt at saying that they support the constitution and then turning around to say that a religious group can't build on private property.

This is why I dislike the right-wing parties of the US. Because their professionial... *flam word*... who are as devious as they are cunning.

[Enadail]

I hate the idea of a mosque next to ground zero, that's like erecting a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. However, this is the United States and I have come to embrace the quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire so just as I would wish for a church to be built there, I can understand their side as well. Sometimes freedom pisses me off...but I'm glad to have it.

But how is this comparable? The Muslims erecting this center didn't cause or partake in the deaths on 9/11 (if anything, some may have been in the buildings/running into the buildings to save people). The terrorists who did attack the WTC no more represent these Muslims then the WBC represents Christianity or Nazis represent Germany. There's no link.

Not all Fascists are Nazi's...infact Fascism seems to be one of the most misused words today. Not all Muslims are radical extremists, I know that. These two things can be compared. But this is besides the point, you can't try and prove me wrong when I agree with you, these muslims are entitled to that Mosque.

Well, I wasn't aruging your agreement... I was aruging your comparing a Muslim community center near Ground Zero to a Nazi Pub next to Auschwitz. We know the Nazis (of the time) did many horrible things are Auschwitz. A nazi anything there would be an insult to they memory (though donno about legality, as I don't know anything about german law). A Muslim center near Ground Zero is nothing like that, as these Muslims did nothing bad at ground zero, nor did most Muslims. And where did I use the word Fascist? How did we get to fascists?

This just in: Muslims are like Nazis.

Godwin never gets old.

Glove is to hand as paint is to wall......is a hand like a wall...? It's called an analogy.

Uh... doesn't mean its not Godwin.

Nazism is a form of Fascism...the most extreme form, as Muslims Extremists are the Extreme form of Muslims.....are all Muslims and Fascists bad...no, but are extremists...yes. I used Nazi as an example, as people are obviously tender to the events that happened at ground zero, and the the typical stereotyping is that all Fascist's or Germans are Nazi's. Neither of which is true. Sure we all know not every Muslim or Fascist is bad, but placing building that reminds people of that history, near the place the event happened is offensive to the broad mass. However, like agreed on, here in the United States that is there right. Despite the fact it's like a slap in the face to those who care.

Except its not a slap... at least not for family members of people who lost family in 9/11 (no, I'm not saying all, but at least those under that organization, can't remember which). If reminding people of history is an insult, then we have the Vietnam Memorial, we have WW2 memorials... hell, we have flowers on the road side when people die in a car crash. The only reason people have a problem with this is because they attribute Islam with the terrorists, falsely. And so by extension, all Muslims are a threat.

By the way your fascist argument still doesn't make sense... it should be it'd be like building a fascist monument at Auschwitz... at least by your comparison, fascists are not the perpetrators, nor are all Muslims. Comparing the Muslim center to a Nazi pub is like comparing the perpetrator to the overall party, which implies that Muslims are the perpetrator. Your logic doesn't flow.

[Dass Alte Reich]

This just in: Muslims are like Nazis.

Godwin never gets old.

Glove is to hand as paint is to wall......is a hand like a wall...? It's called an analogy.

I know what an analogy is.
I just prefer ones that actually make sense.

It would've made sense if you had compared Germans to Muslims, considering not every German was a Nazi.
Just like not every Muslim is a fundamentalist terrorist.

But hey, then it wouldn't be as effective of a scare tactic.

Yes Scare tactics... that was exactly what I came to do here....my plan is foiled now that the all knowing liberal has let the secret out....everyone beware...it's all a conspiracy...I'm here to scare people by agreeing with them then making analogies to extremism......blasted meddling liberals always foiling our evil and devious right wing plans to conquer the world.

[Ifreann]

I have nothing against the ground zero mosque, as long as there is also a ground zero temple and ground zero church, and representation of all religions at ground zero in order to promote unity and stamp out racism for good.

Theres actually no mosque at ground zero. Thus you'd need the "some blocks away church" etc....

As it happens there's already a thread within spitting distance of Ground Zero.

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Yeah but I bet there were allot more Christians killing Nazi's in WWII than there is Muslims killing Al Qaeda terrorists. Also Heil Hitler and the calling him de fuhrer(Lord) goes against a basic tenet of Christianity.

Der Führer means leader, not lord.

[Jervak]

As are all communists by law of reality...."some are just more equal then others"

Good for you, you've read Animal Farm.

[Dass Alte Reich]

As are all communists by law of reality...."some are just more equal then others"

Good for you, you've read Animal Farm.

Good for you, you live in a dream....Soviet..

[Jervak]

As are all communists by law of reality...."some are just more equal then others"

Good for you, you've read Animal Farm.

Good for you, you live in a dream....Soviet..

Nah, I live in reality (Where we have classes). It's just I know why reality sucks for most people and how you stop it.

[Liuzzo]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?

Shocking, I know!

Until these "Muslim that are against Al-Qaeda" are vocally denouncing Al-Qaeda and the like, then they are doing nothing but silent consent.

I have a feeling you're trolling.

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/tam/categories/C167/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131580,00.html

I even got you one from Fox News so you can't call it liberal. Brew this is not aimed at you but in support of you.