"Ground Zero" mosque approved, Obama supports

[Coccygia]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

[Buffett and Colbert]

The Muslim confesses!

[Nodinia]

I have nothing against the ground zero mosque, as long as there is also a ground zero temple and ground zero church, and representation of all religions at ground zero in order to promote unity and stamp out racism for good.

Theres actually no mosque at ground zero. Thus you'd need the "some blocks away church" etc....

[Russo-Dellia]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

As Voltaire might say if he was still alive, the 'Ground Zero' mosque is neither at Ground Zero nor a mosque.

It's near apart

It's two damn blocks away.

That's what I meant

[Juristonia]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Quite clearly.

[Russo-Dellia]

9/11, check it up, my father was one of 3,000 dead

How would your father feel about you abusing his death to spew bigotry that goes directly against one of the founding principles of the country?

He would probably feel ashamed of me talking bad about the constitution, and he wouldn't allow me to act like this, he would've seen me more calmed and less pitiful for his death

Then stop insulting your father's memory with your unconstitutional bigotry.

That's the end of discussion and okay

[Islamic Hazarastan]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Normal Muslims do not hate Jews.

[Liuzzo]

this silly response in support of a idiot like Obama shows the severe liberal bias of this forum

Brilliant. I see you're still making great arguments. Hmm, troll or no troll?

[Jervak]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Normal Muslims do not hate Jews.

No, no, no! The TV box says otherwise!

[Coccygia]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Quite clearly.

Clearly? How? You have poll numbers or something? Do you know any Muslims?

[Islamic Hazarastan]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Normal Muslims do not hate Jews.

No, no, no! The TV box says otherwise!

Ah yes. You must obey the TV. Especially Fox.

[Islamic Hazarastan]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Quite clearly.

Clearly? How? You have poll numbers or something? Do you know any Muslims?

I know Muslims! I said that normal Muslims do not hate Jews!

[Amigard]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Normal Muslims do not hate Jews.

No, no, no! The TV box says otherwise!

Ah yes. You must obey the TV. Especially Fox.

You mean the news is biased???
No way!

[Vervaria]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Quite clearly.

Clearly? How? You have poll numbers or something? Do you know any Muslims?

I know Muslims! I said that normal Muslims do not hate Jews!

As he's the one making the claim about Muslims hating Jews, you're not obligated to disprove it unless he actually offers some kind of support for it. Which I severely doubt will happen.

[Wamitoria]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Quite clearly.

Clearly? How? You have poll numbers or something? Do you know any Muslims?

I know Muslims! I said that normal Muslims do not hate Jews!

In fact, from my personal experiences more Jews hate Muslims than the reverse. (I was raised Jewish)

[Islamic Hazarastan]

You mean the news is biased???
No way!

Astounding, isn't it?

[Juristonia]

He is traitor for supporting the victory mosque.

Did you know that most Muslims are against Al-Qaeda?
Shocking, I know!

Most hate Israel and the Jews, though, and few oppose terrorism against Israel. 'Cause that's different.

Have you even talked to a Muslim in real life?
Because it sounds like you're just rattling off stereotypes.

Is what I said false?

Quite clearly.

Clearly? How? You have poll numbers or something? Do you know any Muslims?

You're the one making the claim.
Burden of proof is on you.

And I know quite a few Muslims.
Comes with living in a city with one of the largest Muslim populations in Europe on average.
How many Muslims do you know? Apart from the ones in those actions movies you seem to watch too many of.

[Sucrati]

Two Words: Go Figure.

[Hugdonia]

I don't see the problem with it. If it is legal, and doesn't voilate anything in the constitution, then why should they be told they cannot worship?

[Liuzzo]

What if there are?
Doesn't change the fact that they have the legal right to build it where they are building it.
Or are you against property rights and freedom of religion?
Why do you hate America?

again please show the reasoning that being against this mosque being built there means I hate America?

The US stands for freedom of religion and freedom to own property, right?
Here, you are showing your dislike for those values, therefore showing your dislike for the US.

Ignore or not ignore?

[The Lone Alliance]

...shouldn't this be in with the other 2542525879 topics on this?

And no matter what the democrats and republicans say, the first amendment DOES support it... unless, of course, islam is no longer a religion.

If you listen to the talking heads they keep going "It's a political movement, therefore we can and should oppress it because they're going to "TAKE OVER TEH WORLD!!!111"

Christanity is a political movement then.
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Amazing how well the Terrorists worked.
They're still terrified after all these years.

I mean I've been to some boards, they literally believe that every single Muslim on the Planet declared war on the US on 9/11.

Never mind the fact that basically every single nation and group on the planet condemned it.

Even Hamas went "Not even we would do that"
(Literally they said "We have no interest in exporting our cause into the United States")
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[Vervaria]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10973459

Obama defends right to build mosque near 9/11 site

US President Barack Obama has staunchly defended controversial plans to build a mosque near Ground Zero in New York.

Opponents have protested against the construction of an Islamic cultural centre and mosque several hundred feet away from the site of the Twin Towers.

Mr Obama acknowledged "sensitivities" surround the 9/11 site, but said Muslims have the same right to practise their religion "as anyone else".

"Our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable," Mr Obama said.

Since a New York developer announced plans to build a 13-storey Islamic community centre and mosque about two blocks from the former World Trade Center site, prominent Republican politicians and a host of conservative pundits have attacked the project.

Some relatives of people killed in the terror attacks on the World Trade Center in 2001 are also opposed to the plan.
'Stab in the heart'

In a speech at a White House dinner celebrating Ramadan, the Muslim holy month, Mr Obama waded into the row, saying:

"We must all recognise and respect the sensitivities surrounding the development of lower Manhattan, Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground. But let me be clear, as a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practise their religion as anyone else in this country.
The proposed mosque site in New York The site of the proposed mosque is about two blocks from the former World Trade Center

"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community centre on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are."

He told the group of US Congressmen, government officials and foreign dignitaries that America's tradition of religious tolerance distinguishes it from "our enemies".

"Al-Qaeda's cause is not Islam," he said, "it is a gross distortion of Islam".

Until now Mr Obama had not commented on the mosque row, with the White House saying that the matter was a local issue.

In voicing his support for the right to build the centre, Mr Obama joins New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who had been the only prominent politician to endorse it.

Opponents of the building project have called for investigations into its backers and financing. In New York, opponents sought unsuccessfully to have the building currently at the mosque site granted landmark protection status, in an effort to hinder development.

Former US House of Representatives speaker Newt Gingrich dubbed the plan an "assertion of Islamist triumphalism" and has denounced it in speeches.

Former Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin wrote that "to build a mosque at Ground Zero is a stab in the heart of the families of the innocent victims of those horrific attacks".

Proving at last that he is a Kenyan Muslim, Obama publicly disagreed with Republicans and right wing talking-heads while at dinner with his comrade Muslims.

But seriously, was it wise for Obama to weigh in on this? Personally I think that if the White House had kept its mouth shut for too much longer it would start to get questionable. Clearly this story has worked up national attention. Whether this will help or hurt Obama is obviously hard to say. So naturally NSG already knows.

I read somewhere that the people wanting to build the Mosque don't own the property they want to build it on.

I read somewhere that John McCain was actually a Vietnamese Manchurian candidate.

[Juristonia]

Amazing how well the Terrorists worked.
They're still terrified after all these years.

I think we can safely say that the terrorists have won.
Half the country's scared shitless, completely irrational and ready to show the east exactly why they should hate them.

[Caninope]

He should have pulled an Ike and ignored it all together.

[Juristonia]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10973459

Obama defends right to build mosque near 9/11 site

US President Barack Obama has staunchly defended controversial plans to build a mosque near Ground Zero in New York.

Opponents have protested against the construction of an Islamic cultural centre and mosque several hundred feet away from the site of the Twin Towers.

Mr Obama acknowledged "sensitivities" surround the 9/11 site, but said Muslims have the same right to practise their religion "as anyone else".

"Our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable," Mr Obama said.

Since a New York developer announced plans to build a 13-storey Islamic community centre and mosque about two blocks from the former World Trade Center site, prominent Republican politicians and a host of conservative pundits have attacked the project.

Some relatives of people killed in the terror attacks on the World Trade Center in 2001 are also opposed to the plan.
'Stab in the heart'

In a speech at a White House dinner celebrating Ramadan, the Muslim holy month, Mr Obama waded into the row, saying:

"We must all recognise and respect the sensitivities surrounding the development of lower Manhattan, Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground. But let me be clear, as a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practise their religion as anyone else in this country.
The proposed mosque site in New York The site of the proposed mosque is about two blocks from the former World Trade Center

"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community centre on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are."

He told the group of US Congressmen, government officials and foreign dignitaries that America's tradition of religious tolerance distinguishes it from "our enemies".

"Al-Qaeda's cause is not Islam," he said, "it is a gross distortion of Islam".

Until now Mr Obama had not commented on the mosque row, with the White House saying that the matter was a local issue.

In voicing his support for the right to build the centre, Mr Obama joins New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who had been the only prominent politician to endorse it.

Opponents of the building project have called for investigations into its backers and financing. In New York, opponents sought unsuccessfully to have the building currently at the mosque site granted landmark protection status, in an effort to hinder development.

Former US House of Representatives speaker Newt Gingrich dubbed the plan an "assertion of Islamist triumphalism" and has denounced it in speeches.

Former Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin wrote that "to build a mosque at Ground Zero is a stab in the heart of the families of the innocent victims of those horrific attacks".

Proving at last that he is a Kenyan Muslim, Obama publicly disagreed with Republicans and right wing talking-heads while at dinner with his comrade Muslims.

But seriously, was it wise for Obama to weigh in on this? Personally I think that if the White House had kept its mouth shut for too much longer it would start to get questionable. Clearly this story has worked up national attention. Whether this will help or hurt Obama is obviously hard to say. So naturally NSG already knows.

I read somewhere that the people wanting to build the Mosque don't own the property they want to build it on.

I read somewhere that John McCain was actually a Vietnamese Manchurian candidate.

I read somewhere that that was just one of Obama's secret Muslim schemes.