"Ground Zero" mosque approved, Obama supports

[Juristonia]

I have freedom of religion, as I could make one right now, and harrasment because of those Islamics who blew up the towers back in 2001 which killed my father and 4,000 other people, and violence, I'm not fighting, I have freedom of speech.

You're free to harass people because a tiny minority of completely different people did something bad.
Right, that just makes all sorts of common sense.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

I have nothing against the ground zero mosque, as long as there is also a ground zero temple and ground zero church, and representation of all religions at ground zero in order to promote unity and stamp out racism for good.

Hey, what about a building for the pagans? Ground Zero Pagan Center!

Don't forget the Ground Zero Temple of Odin. And the Ground Zero Bacchus Wine Bar and Orgy Room. And the Ground Zero Shrine to the Almighty Andrew Jackson.

[North Suran]

Muslims have more rights in most non-Muslim countries than in any Muslim country. And non-Muslims didn't blow up the WTC. There's nowhere else in NYC to put a mosque?

Ah, so America should have the same kind of restrictive laws and regulations as extreme Muslims nations.
Got it.

I do love the logic of that argument, though.

They attack the perceived evil actions of the Muslims (treating non-Muslims as second-class citizens). In their very next breath, they then use this as a justification to do the same thing with the positions reversed. So basically, they are attempting to justify the very thing they previously condemned.

Logic hurts.

[Juristonia]

Sometimes I wonder how these people manage to tie their own shoelaces every day.

[North Suran]

Yet here you are equating what we did in 1942-1944 as the exact same thing as what the USA did in the weeks and months of 911.

Do note where I said "dangerously close". I equated nothing.

God I wish you would shut the fuck up.

I cannot agree on your part. Your rants are far too entertaining.

It isnt dangerously close. The US reaction in the weeks and months after 911 is NOT the same - was not dangerously close to our shameful behavior with those citizens back in 1942-44.

The attempt to isolate Muslims from the population and treat them as distinct from normal, naturalised US citizens is, however, identical. I like it how you removed the rest of my response which demolished your "You don't know history!" claim. Oh, and even if you can't do basic spelling, at least try and use the quote function correctly. Of course, you wouldn't have fucked up the quotes if you hadn't purposefully removed the parts of my response which undermined your argument.

[Pandarchy]

god I wish you would shut the fuck up

You can make it so.

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Into the box, type North Suran
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There. You have shut North Suran up.

It's really quite easy once you know how.

[Techno-Soviet]

...shouldn't this be in with the other 2542525879 topics on this?

And no matter what the democrats and republicans say, the first amendment DOES support it... unless, of course, islam is no longer a religion.

Oh God....I can now see the idiots known as Republicans and Tea Baggers marching up to Congress rallying them to change Islam's status from a religion to a cult. Yes it would still be protected under the first amendment, but that'll just amplify the stupidity of said march.

...

Oh god I was just about to say the same thing.

[Ashmoria]

this silly response in support of a idiot like Obama shows the severe liberal bias of this forum

why do you hate the constitution?

[Pandarchy]

this silly response in support of a idiot like Obama shows the severe liberal bias of this forum

why do you hate the constitution?

What's puzzling me is why a geek who is smarter than Obama is hanging around with idiots like us.

I mean, if they're that smart, how come they aren't working 24/7 to prove that the planet is in imminent peril of an Ice Age?

[Ashmoria]

it's a stab in the heart

It's The same thing like if how about a Fascist Church near the Jewish Embassy, see how the Jews will react.

How about a Islamic Mosque near the Ground Zero Place, I Fucking Hope they fucking blow up the mosque if not, then they are worthless pieces of shit, I would walk down the corner with a picture of osama bin laden and shove it in their faces, see how they react.

Why would the president have a good feeling, I knew Change was going to happen, This is what you get with voting for Liberals.

Plus if I was president of the US, I would never allow it and I would've placed it in Queens or Brooklyn.

If you want to react with me good or bad go ahead because I HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH here.

why do you hate the constitution?

[Pandarchy]

I have nothing against the ground zero mosque, as long as there is also a ground zero temple and ground zero church, and representation of all religions at ground zero in order to promote unity and stamp out racism for good.

Hey, Atheists are people too!

Though they are very reasonable people. Perhaps they won't mind being stamped out, if the same boot takes out all the racists too.

Unless they're racist Atheists. Then they might object.

[Ashmoria]

this silly response in support of a idiot like Obama shows the severe liberal bias of this forum

why do you hate the constitution?

What's puzzling me is why a geek who is smarter than Obama is hanging around with idiots like us.

I mean, if they're that smart, how come they aren't working 24/7 to prove that the planet is in imminent peril of an Ice Age?

hahahaha

i KNOW!

we could be under a mile of ice any day now and what are they DOING about it?

[Tellend]

I feel that the entirety of New York, nay, the entire USA, is too close to build a mosque, or ANY structure of any sort, as any building project will be an insult to the Twin Towers. America should remain exactly the same today as it was in 2001.

In all seriousness, no one who does not own the land may choose what may or may not be built there. Also, two whole blocks and nine years away from 9-11 ground zero is far enough for coincidence.

Anyway, Obama is okay to point out the religion and speech rights of all parties involved, but can't spell out any legal ruling, as it is not his place to do so (that would be the Supreme Court's job). If things somehow go to a court (which they probably can't, since no crime is being committed), I'm sure the land owners will win, hands down.

[Russo-Dellia]

it's a stab in the heart

It's The same thing like if how about a Fascist Church near the Jewish Embassy, see how the Jews will react.

How about a Islamic Mosque near the Ground Zero Place, I Fucking Hope they fucking blow up the mosque if not, then they are worthless pieces of shit, I would walk down the corner with a picture of osama bin laden and shove it in their faces, see how they react.

Why would the president have a good feeling, I knew Change was going to happen, This is what you get with voting for Liberals.

Plus if I was president of the US, I would never allow it and I would've placed it in Queens or Brooklyn.

If you want to react with me good or bad go ahead because I HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH here.

why do you hate the constitution?

I do not hate the constitution, I do not hate any religions except Islam

[Coccygia]

Muslims have more rights in most non-Muslim countries than in any Muslim country. And non-Muslims didn't blow up the WTC. There's nowhere else in NYC to put a mosque?

Many Muslims would argue that the WTC wasn't blown up by Muslims.

Many Muslims would also argue that the Holocaust was a Zionist hoax. That doesn't mean there's a shred of truth to it. Therefore, irrelevant.

[Ashmoria]

it's a stab in the heart

It's The same thing like if how about a Fascist Church near the Jewish Embassy, see how the Jews will react.

How about a Islamic Mosque near the Ground Zero Place, I Fucking Hope they fucking blow up the mosque if not, then they are worthless pieces of shit, I would walk down the corner with a picture of osama bin laden and shove it in their faces, see how they react.

Why would the president have a good feeling, I knew Change was going to happen, This is what you get with voting for Liberals.

Plus if I was president of the US, I would never allow it and I would've placed it in Queens or Brooklyn.

If you want to react with me good or bad go ahead because I HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH here.

why do you hate the constitution?

I do not hate the constitution, I do not hate any religions except Islam

and yet you are so strongly opposed to the constitution when you would deny anyone their freedom of religion.

[Greed and Death]

Better how ? perhaps their congregation was better served with a mosque down town near where they work.

OK.... good question

what if it turns out there are other Mosques downtown in southern manhattan

With that same sect, with those same Mullahs?
Just like Christianity just having person of same sect is not enough for a spiritual service. The people of this congregation want this mosque at that location, and because they have the money and obeyed all other laws they have the right to it.

[O5vx]

Obama has done one thing right in my opinion in a long time since he took office.

Muslims like myself do have the same right as do any other religion in America.

This is nothing to do with religion at all, It ls all about freedom and rights.

For far too long america as let those who want to tanish the name of Islam do so, but know you have woken up to the truth. I commended obama on this move to get justice for all those good and honest muslim like myself.

[Russo-Dellia]

it's a stab in the heart

It's The same thing like if how about a Fascist Church near the Jewish Embassy, see how the Jews will react.

How about a Islamic Mosque near the Ground Zero Place, I Fucking Hope they fucking blow up the mosque if not, then they are worthless pieces of shit, I would walk down the corner with a picture of osama bin laden and shove it in their faces, see how they react.

Why would the president have a good feeling, I knew Change was going to happen, This is what you get with voting for Liberals.

Plus if I was president of the US, I would never allow it and I would've placed it in Queens or Brooklyn.

If you want to react with me good or bad go ahead because I HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH here.

why do you hate the constitution?

I do not hate the constitution, I do not hate any religions except Islam

and yet you are so strongly opposed to the constitution when you would deny anyone their freedom of religion.

9/11, check it up, my father was one of 3,000 dead

[North Suran]

why do you hate the constitution?

I do not hate the constitution,

Yet you ceaselessly attack its clauses.

I do not hate any religions except Islam

Why Islam only? They are all equally as bad. The Abrahamic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam - all follow the same god, for one thing.

[North Suran]

and yet you are so strongly opposed to the constitution when you would deny anyone their freedom of religion.

9/11, check it up, my father was one of 3,000 dead

Yeah, that's "freedom of expression", not "freedom of expression unless I say otherwise".

[Russo-Dellia]

why do you hate the constitution?

I do not hate the constitution,

Yet you ceaselessly attack its clauses.

I do not hate any religions except Islam

Why Islam only? They are all equally as bad. The Abrahamic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam - all follow the same god, for one thing.

They believe in their lord because they tell them what's right for them

[Ashmoria]

it's a stab in the heart

It's The same thing like if how about a Fascist Church near the Jewish Embassy, see how the Jews will react.

How about a Islamic Mosque near the Ground Zero Place, I Fucking Hope they fucking blow up the mosque if not, then they are worthless pieces of shit, I would walk down the corner with a picture of osama bin laden and shove it in their faces, see how they react.

Why would the president have a good feeling, I knew Change was going to happen, This is what you get with voting for Liberals.

Plus if I was president of the US, I would never allow it and I would've placed it in Queens or Brooklyn.

If you want to react with me good or bad go ahead because I HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH here.

why do you hate the constitution?

I do not hate the constitution, I do not hate any religions except Islam

and yet you are so strongly opposed to the constitution when you would deny anyone their freedom of religion.

9/11, check it up, my father was one of 3,000 dead

a tragedy doesnt negate the constitution.

you should try to deal with your grief instead of pushing the blame for your fathers death onto the heads of more than one billion people. ISLAM didnt destroy the wtc.

[Russo-Dellia]

and yet you are so strongly opposed to the constitution when you would deny anyone their freedom of religion.

9/11, check it up, my father was one of 3,000 dead

Yeah, that's "freedom of expression", not "freedom of expression unless I say otherwise".

never heard of it

[Russo-Dellia]

it's a stab in the heart

It's The same thing like if how about a Fascist Church near the Jewish Embassy, see how the Jews will react.

How about a Islamic Mosque near the Ground Zero Place, I Fucking Hope they fucking blow up the mosque if not, then they are worthless pieces of shit, I would walk down the corner with a picture of osama bin laden and shove it in their faces, see how they react.

Why would the president have a good feeling, I knew Change was going to happen, This is what you get with voting for Liberals.

Plus if I was president of the US, I would never allow it and I would've placed it in Queens or Brooklyn.

If you want to react with me good or bad go ahead because I HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH here.

why do you hate the constitution?

I do not hate the constitution, I do not hate any religions except Islam

and yet you are so strongly opposed to the constitution when you would deny anyone their freedom of religion.

9/11, check it up, my father was one of 3,000 dead

a tragedy doesnt negate the constitution.

you should try to deal with your grief instead of pushing the blame for your fathers death onto the heads of more than one billion people. ISLAM didnt destroy the wtc.

The 19 people in those four planes did.