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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:31 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Fair enough.


Hmm... I wonder what you would say if I said the Bible and the Qur'an are the same book.

I'd say that you are wrong.


I know, right? Are you Muslim?

Nope. Nor am I christian.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:32 pm

Xsyne wrote:Depends. Is your name Jorge Luis Borges?


I could be related to him. And he is one of my idols. :hug: . Why?

Dyakovo wrote:Nope. Nor am I christian.


Nah, just checking. You seemed a bit... defensive back thar.

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Postby Xsyne » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:46 pm

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Xsyne wrote:Depends. Is your name Jorge Luis Borges?


I could be related to him. And he is one of my idols. :hug: . Why?

One of his stories, I can't remember which, contains a line that, roughly paraphrased, goes "All books are the same book."
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Postby Geniasis » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:47 pm

Xsyne wrote:
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Xsyne wrote:Depends. Is your name Jorge Luis Borges?


I could be related to him. And he is one of my idols. :hug: . Why?

One of his stories, I can't remember which, contains a line that, roughly paraphrased, goes "All books are the same book."


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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:48 pm

Xsyne wrote:
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Xsyne wrote:Depends. Is your name Jorge Luis Borges?


I could be related to him. And he is one of my idols. :hug: . Why?

One of his stories, I can't remember which, contains a line that, roughly paraphrased, goes "All books are the same book."


Come to think of it, I think I AM him. :shock: Or maybe I'm his re-incarnation. Nah, maybe I'm just T.S. Eliot re-incarnated. And even then, HOLY SHIT I JUST WINRAR AGAIN.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:53 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Xsyne wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Xsyne wrote:Depends. Is your name Jorge Luis Borges?


I could be related to him. And he is one of my idols. :hug: . Why?

One of his stories, I can't remember which, contains a line that, roughly paraphrased, goes "All books are the same book."


Come to think of it, I think I AM him. :shock: Or maybe I'm his re-incarnation. Nah, maybe I'm just T.S. Eliot re-incarnated. And even then, HOLY SHIT I JUST WINRAR AGAIN.

You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?
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Postby Strykla » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:57 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Xsyne wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Xsyne wrote:Depends. Is your name Jorge Luis Borges?


I could be related to him. And he is one of my idols. :hug: . Why?

One of his stories, I can't remember which, contains a line that, roughly paraphrased, goes "All books are the same book."


Come to think of it, I think I AM him. :shock: Or maybe I'm his re-incarnation. Nah, maybe I'm just T.S. Eliot re-incarnated. And even then, HOLY SHIT I JUST WINRAR AGAIN.

You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:57 pm

Farnhamia wrote:You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?


If it involved a dark alley and an assault charge that I was acquited of due to lack of evidence, probably. Also, who the fuck are the St. Louis Eliots?
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:59 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?


If it involved a dark alley and an assault charge that I was acquited of due to lack of evidence, probably. Also, who the fuck are the St. Louis Eliots?

The Eliot family from St. Louis presumably...
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Postby Xsyne » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:00 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Xsyne wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Xsyne wrote:Depends. Is your name Jorge Luis Borges?


I could be related to him. And he is one of my idols. :hug: . Why?

One of his stories, I can't remember which, contains a line that, roughly paraphrased, goes "All books are the same book."


Come to think of it, I think I AM him.

I believe that's what the line immediately after says.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:01 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?


If it involved a dark alley and an assault charge that I was acquited of due to lack of evidence, probably. Also, who the fuck are the St. Louis Eliots?

The Eliot family from St. Louis presumably...

"Eliot was born into the Eliot family, originally from New England, who had moved to St. Louis, Missouri. His father, Henry Ware Eliot (1843–1919), was a successful businessman, president and treasurer of the Hydraulic-Press Brick Company in St. Louis. His mother, Charlotte Champe Stearns (1843–1929), wrote poems and was a social worker. Eliot was the last of six surviving children; his parents were both 44 years old when he was born. His four sisters were between 11 and 19 years older; his brother was eight years older. Known to family and friends as Tom, he was the namesake of his maternal grandfather Thomas Stearns."
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Postby Rambhutan » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:05 pm

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Postby Xsyne » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:09 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?


If it involved a dark alley and an assault charge that I was acquited of due to lack of evidence, probably. Also, who the fuck are the St. Louis Eliots?

A baseball team best known for having lost every game they've ever played, perhaps because they keep asking themselves if they dare to hit a pitch.
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Postby Hyde2 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:10 pm

Tekania wrote:Terrorists merely have the power to do minor and casual damage to some people, destroy some property, but have little power over our ideals...


How the fuck could you even think this. You literally have to wish away the effect 9/11 had on geopolitics to think this (which is infinitely more devastating than people opposing a building), again, you actually have to be insane to think this. Well not insane, it's just partisan bullshit obviously, it helps make you look better, and your opposition worse.

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Postby Hyde2 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:11 pm

Tekania wrote:This is a bad comparison. An accurate comparison would be a situation where a group of Baghdad Christian Arabs wanted to build a Church near where Americans killed people.


No, that's not an accurate comparison, because in order for that to be true, then Feisal Abdul Rauf would have to be a white non-immigrant American, which is completely false.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:12 pm

Xsyne wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?


If it involved a dark alley and an assault charge that I was acquited of due to lack of evidence, probably. Also, who the fuck are the St. Louis Eliots?

A baseball team best known for having lost every game they've ever played, perhaps because they keep asking themselves if they dare to hit a pitch.

:bow:
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Postby Hyde2 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:12 pm

Free Soviets wrote:1) that's a weird thing to care about.


How is that remotely weird?

B) offending the people offended by this is the right thing to do.


Bullshit.

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Postby The Norwegian Blue » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:13 pm

Xsyne wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?


If it involved a dark alley and an assault charge that I was acquited of due to lack of evidence, probably. Also, who the fuck are the St. Louis Eliots?

A baseball team best known for having lost every game they've ever played, perhaps because they keep asking themselves if they dare to hit a pitch.


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Postby Enadail » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:17 pm

Hyde2 wrote:
Tekania wrote:Terrorists merely have the power to do minor and casual damage to some people, destroy some property, but have little power over our ideals...


How the fuck could you even think this. You literally have to wish away the effect 9/11 had on geopolitics to think this (which is infinitely more devastating than people opposing a building), again, you actually have to be insane to think this. Well not insane, it's just partisan bullshit obviously, it helps make you look better, and your opposition worse.


So you're saying that terrorists do have control over our ideals? How so?

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Tekania wrote:This is a bad comparison. An accurate comparison would be a situation where a group of Baghdad Christian Arabs wanted to build a Church near where Americans killed people.


No, that's not an accurate comparison, because in order for that to be true, then Feisal Abdul Rauf would have to be a white non-immigrant American, which is completely false.


The fact that he's an immigrant is irrelevant, as we don't treat immigrated Americans different from non-immigrant Americans. Of course, if you wanna pick out tiny details like that, no analogy/comparison would ever work... there's a reason its a comparison and not an exact equivalent.

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Postby Hyde2 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:21 pm

Enadail wrote:So you're saying that terrorists do have control over our ideals? How so?


No, I didn't say that. Events have drastic effects over peoples ideals, and can be one of the most powerful sparks, from bloody Sunday in Russia, the assassination of Franz Ferdinand, all the way to 9/11. I cannot believe anyone would have the audacity to call it 'causal, minor damage'.

Hyde2 wrote:The fact that he's an immigrant is irrelevant, as we don't treat immigrated Americans different from non-immigrant Americans.


No, it's not irrelevant because it makes his comparison bullshit, he deliberately made those Christians Arab natives, which subtly changes the context, if it didn't mean anything, why the fuck would he mention it, and why the fuck would he say my comparison is wrong?

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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:23 pm

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Enadail wrote:The fact that he's an immigrant is irrelevant, as we don't treat immigrated Americans different from non-immigrant Americans.


No, it's not irrelevant because it makes his comparison bullshit, he deliberately made those Christians Arab natives, which subtly changes the context, if it didn't mean anything, why the fuck would he mention it, and why the fuck would he say my comparison is wrong?

Where exactly did he specify that they were natives?
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:23 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?


If it involved a dark alley and an assault charge that I was acquited of due to lack of evidence, probably. Also, who the fuck are the St. Louis Eliots?

The Eliot family from St. Louis presumably...

"Eliot was born into the Eliot family, originally from New England, who had moved to St. Louis, Missouri. His father, Henry Ware Eliot (1843–1919), was a successful businessman, president and treasurer of the Hydraulic-Press Brick Company in St. Louis. His mother, Charlotte Champe Stearns (1843–1929), wrote poems and was a social worker. Eliot was the last of six surviving children; his parents were both 44 years old when he was born. His four sisters were between 11 and 19 years older; his brother was eight years older. Known to family and friends as Tom, he was the namesake of his maternal grandfather Thomas Stearns."


Why don't people just say "TS Eliot's family".

Farnhamia wrote:
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Farnhamia wrote:You're Tom Eliot? Of the St. Louis Eliots? So, did it really happen that you were seated at a dinner once and one of the people next to you anted to discuss the deficiencies of TS Eliot's poetry, and you held up your place-card to excuse yourself from the discussion?


If it involved a dark alley and an assault charge that I was acquited of due to lack of evidence, probably. Also, who the fuck are the St. Louis Eliots?

A baseball team best known for having lost every game they've ever played, perhaps because they keep asking themselves if they dare to hit a pitch.

:bow:


... I don't think I got the joke. :blink: Besides, post-modernists pwned all of literature. They're awesome. At least, more awesome than those pansy Romantics.

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Postby Hyde2 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:24 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
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Enadail wrote:The fact that he's an immigrant is irrelevant, as we don't treat immigrated Americans different from non-immigrant Americans.


No, it's not irrelevant because it makes his comparison bullshit, he deliberately made those Christians Arab natives, which subtly changes the context, if it didn't mean anything, why the fuck would he mention it, and why the fuck would he say my comparison is wrong?

Where exactly did he specify that they were natives?


He specified they were Arabs, the only way that could change anything is if there was an implication of them being native, otherwise, it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference, and does nothing to undermine my comparison.

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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:26 pm

Hyde2 wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Hyde2 wrote:
Enadail wrote:The fact that he's an immigrant is irrelevant, as we don't treat immigrated Americans different from non-immigrant Americans.


No, it's not irrelevant because it makes his comparison bullshit, he deliberately made those Christians Arab natives, which subtly changes the context, if it didn't mean anything, why the fuck would he mention it, and why the fuck would he say my comparison is wrong?

Where exactly did he specify that they were natives?


He specified they were Arabs, the only way that could change anything is if there was an implication of them being native, otherwise, it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference, and does nothing to undermine my comparison.

So? Are all Arabs from Iraq?
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Postby Hyde2 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:27 pm

Dyakovo wrote:So? Are all Arabs from Iraq?


Can you read the exchange before attempting to be a smart-ass:

Baghdad Christian Arabs

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