Justice Ginsburg

[EE Army]

United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg responded in interview article with the New York Times Magazine.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion."

The orriginal can be found here http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magaz ... gewanted=4

I think that this pretty much speaks for itself.

[Ifreann]

Don't you just hate it when people agree with you, but for really nasty reasons? Ick.

[Concurria]

[Ashmoria]

United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg responded in interview article with the New York Times Magazine.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion."

The orriginal can be found here http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magaz ... gewanted=4

I think that this pretty much speaks for itself.

no it doesnt speak for itself.

what do you think about it that made you start the thread?

[Lucky Bicycle Works]

United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg responded in interview article with the New York Times Magazine.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion."

The orriginal can be found here http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magaz ... gewanted=4

I think that this pretty much speaks for itself.

I disagree. I think you should put a point of view, and at the very least define a subject to debate. In your own words.

Otherwise, your "thread subject" is just cut and paste. It's "it says here." It's point and smirk.

We can all read Ginsberg's quoted words. Let's hear yours.

[Free Soviets]

I think that this pretty much speaks for itself.

well, in context, maybe

[Lucky Bicycle Works]

United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg responded in interview article with the New York Times Magazine.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion."

The orriginal can be found here http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magaz ... gewanted=4

I think that this pretty much speaks for itself.

no it doesnt speak for itself.

what do you think about it that made you start the thread?

What I said, but shorter and sooner.

Good work, as usual.

[Les Drapeaux Brulants]

So let's do the work for him. EE Army clearly thinks that this shows genocidal tendencies on Ginsburg's part.


If you read more than the WorldNetDaily headline, you might get another idea...

[Ashmoria]

So let's do the work for him. EE Army clearly thinks that this shows genocidal tendencies on Ginsburg's part.


If you read more than the WorldNetDaily headline, you might get another idea...

yeah i read the article and ....she is just saying that she had made an assumption about why roe v wade was decided as it was and it turned out to be wrong. she didnt say that she supported the assumption.

[The Spacenoids]

Are you saying that is Ginsburg's position? I'll admit it's concerning in its choice of wording, but she seems to be against this thinking, something which becomes evident when you read the sentences around your quote.

[Lucky Bicycle Works]

So let's do the work for him.

No, let's really NOT.

If "he" wants to make a point, "he" should make a point. Getting a subject under way, to post later with a prepared position from some other account, is simply an abuse of the power of no-post noobs to start threads here.

"He" should be held to a higher standard of content and intent, for starting a thread instead of simply posting to it.

[New Mitanni]

Nothing in the linked article should surprise anyone. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is exactly what one would have expected from a high-ranking boss of the Atheist Criminal Liberal Union. She should have been filibustered when Bubba nominated her. Unfortunately, GOP wimps and RINOs have never learned that you don't take a knife to a gunfight.

[BunnySaurus Bugsii]

Oops. Stupid forum logged me in with a newly created nation.

I'm Lucky Bicycle Works. I had hoped for a more dignified start, for my alter-alter-ego.

But so it goes.

I brought a bicycle to a bullfight. Serves me right.

[Poliwanacraca]

Context is fun!

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Reproductive choice has to be straightened out. There will never be a woman of means without choice anymore. That just seems to me so obvious. The states that had changed their abortion laws before Roe [to make abortion legal] are not going to change back. So we have a policy that affects only poor women, and it can never be otherwise, and I don’t know why this hasn’t been said more often.

Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

Q: When you say that reproductive rights need to be straightened out, what do you mean?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: The basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman.

Q: Does that mean getting rid of the test the court imposed, in which it allows states to impose restrictions on abortion — like a waiting period — that are not deemed an “undue burden” to a woman’s reproductive freedom?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: I’m not a big fan of these tests. I think the court uses them as a label that accommodates the result it wants to reach. It will be, it should be, that this is a woman’s decision. It’s entirely appropriate to say it has to be an informed decision, but that doesn’t mean you can keep a woman overnight who has traveled a great distance to get to the clinic, so that she has to go to some motel and think it over for 24 hours or 48 hours.

I still think, although I was much too optimistic in the early days, that the possibility of stopping a pregnancy very early is significant. The morning-after pill will become more accessible and easier to take. So I think the side that wants to take the choice away from women and give it to the state, they’re fighting a losing battle. Time is on the side of change.

Yup, that evil, evil Ginsberg, and her "guessing wrong about other people's motivations, coupled with an entirely clear position on abortion (i.e. the government should stay the fuck out of it)." That BITCH.

[Saint Clair Island]

Nothing in the linked article should surprise anyone. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is exactly what one would have expected from a high-ranking boss of the Atheist Criminal Liberal Union. She should have been filibustered when Bubba nominated her. Unfortunately, GOP wimps and RINOs have never learned that you don't take a knife to a gunfight.

Plus, her middle name sounds like Darth Vader. Clearly, she's actually a Sith in disguise, and is trying to take over the planet for the Dark Side. The next time she shows up on TV, New Mitanni, try sensing her with the Force -- you'll see that my words bear me out.

[You-Gi-Owe]

United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg responded in interview article with the New York Times Magazine.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion."

The orriginal can be found here http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magaz ... gewanted=4

I think that this pretty much speaks for itself.

no it doesnt speak for itself.

what do you think about it that made you start the thread?

I will hazard a guess that he means it speaks for itself in that Justice Ginsberg seems to have a touch of being a eugenicist and a racist about her.

[Desperate Measures]

Context is fun!

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Reproductive choice has to be straightened out. There will never be a woman of means without choice anymore. That just seems to me so obvious. The states that had changed their abortion laws before Roe [to make abortion legal] are not going to change back. So we have a policy that affects only poor women, and it can never be otherwise, and I don’t know why this hasn’t been said more often.

Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

Q: When you say that reproductive rights need to be straightened out, what do you mean?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: The basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman.

Q: Does that mean getting rid of the test the court imposed, in which it allows states to impose restrictions on abortion — like a waiting period — that are not deemed an “undue burden” to a woman’s reproductive freedom?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: I’m not a big fan of these tests. I think the court uses them as a label that accommodates the result it wants to reach. It will be, it should be, that this is a woman’s decision. It’s entirely appropriate to say it has to be an informed decision, but that doesn’t mean you can keep a woman overnight who has traveled a great distance to get to the clinic, so that she has to go to some motel and think it over for 24 hours or 48 hours.

I still think, although I was much too optimistic in the early days, that the possibility of stopping a pregnancy very early is significant. The morning-after pill will become more accessible and easier to take. So I think the side that wants to take the choice away from women and give it to the state, they’re fighting a losing battle. Time is on the side of change.

Yup, that evil, evil Ginsberg, and her "guessing wrong about other people's motivations, coupled with an entirely clear position on abortion (i.e. the government should stay the fuck out of it)." That BITCH.

Prepare yourself to be conveniently ignored.

[Saint Clair Island]

United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg responded in interview article with the New York Times Magazine.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion."

The orriginal can be found here http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magaz ... gewanted=4

I think that this pretty much speaks for itself.

no it doesnt speak for itself.

what do you think about it that made you start the thread?

I will hazard a guess that he means it speaks for itself in that Justice Ginsberg seems to have a touch of being a eugenicist and a racist about her.

Well, of course. To say nothing of that time when she killed all those Jedi younglings with her lightsaber.

[Poliwanacraca]

I...touch...a racist.

So you're saying you fondle KKK members?

Or maybe taking people's words entirely and completely out of context is not exactly an accurate reflection on their actual, very clearly stated opinions?

[Galloism]

Nothing in the linked article should surprise anyone. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is exactly what one would have expected from a high-ranking boss of the Atheist Criminal Liberal Union. She should have been filibustered when Bubba nominated her. Unfortunately, GOP wimps and RINOs have never learned that you don't take a knife to a gunfight.

Plus, her middle name sounds like Darth Vader. Clearly, she's actually a Sith in disguise, and is trying to take over the planet for the Dark Side. The next time she shows up on TV, New Mitanni, try sensing her with the Force -- you'll see that my words bear me out.

I have felt Ruth Bader's mind, young one. She is not as strong with the dark side as you think. I, myself, have engaged her in combat, and her movements are slow and her skill lacking. She escaped me, albeit barely, and we will meet on the battlefield again, and lock sabers for the final time. Mark my words.

[Farnhamia]

I...touch...a racist.

So you're saying you fondle KKK members?

Or maybe taking people's words entirely and completely out of context is not exactly an accurate reflection on their actual, very clearly stated opinions?

I love cherry-picking, don't you, Poli? I have a lovely bowl of recently-picked cherriesin my kitchen, just waiting for me.

[Ashmoria]

United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg responded in interview article with the New York Times Magazine.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion."

The orriginal can be found here http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magaz ... gewanted=4

I think that this pretty much speaks for itself.

no it doesnt speak for itself.

what do you think about it that made you start the thread?

I will hazard a guess that he means it speaks for itself in that Justice Ginsberg seems to have a touch of being a eugenicist and a racist about her.

except since she doesnt, it speaks to her pessimism about the motives of others.

[Soheran]

[Tmutarakhan]

I will hazard a guess that he means it speaks for itself in that Justice Ginsberg seems to have a touch of being a eugenicist and a racist about her.

If that's what he means, then he is either lying or has been lied to. What it says is that Ginsburg thought some other people were motivated by eugenics and racism, and that it turns out she was mistaken about those other people.

[Bottle]

Yes, it really does speak for itself when dishonest/ignorant individuals take quotes out of context in a feeble attempt to prop up their own failed agendas.